Haswell rMBP Reviews

Haswell rMBP Reviews

kennylukman said:
Hi this might sound stupid but i have few questions,

1. The new spec of the macbook pro 15” is 2.0 GHz i7, I found it confusing since isn’t that means a downgrade from my macbook pro 2010 model that has 2.66 Ghz i7?

2. Actually what is the need to have 2 graphic cards? My current macbook pro (2010 model) has 2 graphic cards, and the discrete one (NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M) currently always giving me a problem when I open graphic driven apps like photoshop, indesign, etc. Just wondering if I only have only the integrated graphic card, is it actually going to be better or slower for me to do graphic driven stuffs?

I’m running OS X Mountain Lion, and recently I always get GPU kernel panic every time I run graphic driven apps. Brought it to apple service centre in my town and they said that my logic board is spoilt, repairing can cost me a brand new macbook pro, so I’m considering on getting the new retina macs. But I’m totally confused about the specs since first it runs 2.0 Ghz, and it only has one graphic card (15” model the lower spec, the higher one is kinda too expensive for me :/)

Would be really helpful if you guys can help me out in explaining my questions! Thank you so much! :)
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1. The i7 2.66Ghz from 2010 is a dual core the new 2.0 Ghz is quadcore. The new one is better in every aspect, in some things even more than twice as powerfull

2. if your mbp is under 3 years old take it to an apple store. If your chipset is broken you get a new logicboard for free. If you take the new rmbp with integrated graphics only it will run circles around your 330m. It's much faster in every possible way

To sum up: the macbook you are looking at (2.0Ghz) is miles ahead of your 2010 one.
It has a much much faster CPU, more powerful graphics, faster ram (watch out, you can NOT upgrade this afterwards), better batterylife, a beautiful screen and faster ports (wifi, usb 3.0, thunderbolt...) and extremly fast ssd instead of hdd. The only downside is, that you can't upgrade it afterwards
 
i have the 2012 13" retina i7 (2.9) already, but fortunately our business needed a machine, so it goes to that. to replace for personal use i picked up a haswell i5 2.6, 512 at the store on our discount. it's great! i was amazed how much faster the read/write ssd times are between the models (same 512).

i did a photo job last night (wire) where i didn't have access to power for 4.5 hours on the field. i was doing p/s processing and sending pics and still had 40% power left. i went up to the press room and did another 2 hours of stock work--wanted to see if the battery would hold up. yep it went down to 25%. i was working with a set of over 1000 images.

when i returned home, did another couple of web browsing--just to see if the battery would drain out--it lasted longer than i did. amazing!! the 2012 would have tapped out 2 hours earlier.

btw, the new one actually shuts off in a few seconds (same app load) compared to having to wait forever for the other one to shut down.
 
Fultonpics said:
i have the 2012 13" retina i7 (2.9) already, but fortunately our business needed a machine, so it goes to that. to replace for personal use i picked up a haswell i5 2.6, 512 at the store on our discount. it's great! i was amazed how much faster the read/write ssd times are between the models (same 512).

i did a photo job last night (wire) where i didn't have access to power for 4.5 hours on the field. i was doing p/s processing and sending pics and still had 40% power left. i went up to the press room and did another 2 hours of stock work--wanted to see if the battery would hold up. yep it went down to 25%. i was working with a set of over 1000 images.

when i returned home, did another couple of web browsing--just to see if the battery would drain out--it lasted longer than i did. amazing!! the 2012 would have tapped out 2 hours earlier.

btw, the new one actually shuts off in a few seconds (same app load) compared to having to wait forever for the other one to shut down.
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Yep, they certainly do last quite some time. The shut off I think is due to Mavericks more than the MBP itself.
 
Is it just me or is the gap between the display and the top case huge in that review video in the OP? Obviously the display gap will look bigger on a thinner rMPB compared to a cMBP since the machine is thinner, but that still looks like an unacceptable gap.

I remember my 2008 original unibody had a pretty bad gap like that, but my 2010 replacement has a nice tight gap, maybe half of that.

Hopefully the rMBP I have on the way has a nice tight gap.
 
puma1552 said:
Is it just me or is the gap between the display and the top case huge in that review video in the OP? Obviously the display gap will look bigger on a thinner rMPB compared to a cMBP since the machine is thinner, but that still looks like an unacceptable gap.

I remember my 2008 original unibody had a pretty bad gap like that, but my 2010 replacement has a nice tight gap, maybe half of that.

Hopefully the rMBP I have on the way has a nice tight gap.
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not really sure which part you mean. could you post a screenshot?
 
Wuiffi said:
1. The i7 2.66Ghz from 2010 is a dual core the new 2.0 Ghz is quadcore. The new one is better in every aspect, in some things even more than twice as powerfull

2. if your mbp is under 3 years old take it to an apple store. If your chipset is broken you get a new logicboard for free. If you take the new rmbp with integrated graphics only it will run circles around your 330m. It's much faster in every possible way

To sum up: the macbook you are looking at (2.0Ghz) is miles ahead of your 2010 one.
It has a much much faster CPU, more powerful graphics, faster ram (watch out, you can NOT upgrade this afterwards), better batterylife, a beautiful screen and faster ports (wifi, usb 3.0, thunderbolt...) and extremly fast ssd instead of hdd. The only downside is, that you can't upgrade it afterwards
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Ah I get it now thanks so much for the help! :)

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UBS28 said:
The Haswell CPU is faster clock for clock. The 2.3 ghz haswell CPU is about 70% faster in single core task than my 2.4 ghz i5 2010 MBP for example.

If the 330m is giving you kernel panics, try reinstalling OS X. Or perhaps your 330m is broken? I'm not having any issues with my 330m.
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I’m not entirely sure though. The problem just occurred ever since I updated to OS X Lion, and continues to OS X Mountain Lion. The local service centre said probably my logic board is broken, and it costs like 2k$ for repair.

I will probably try to clean install back to snow leopard before upgrading to mavericks to see if the problem continues or not.

Thanks for the help! :)

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watchthisspace said:
Tried to easily explain the differences for you in bold without getting technical.
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Thanks for helping! :)
 
radiohead14 said:
not really sure which part you mean. could you post a screenshot?
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im talking about when the computer is closed, the gap between the lid/display and the main body of the computer looks too big. i remember when the original unibodies came out this was a QC problem where lots of people had sloppy gaps, which I think Apple tightened up, kind of wondering if the rMBPs in general have the same issue, even though now we are on revision 2.
 
puma1552 said:
im talking about when the computer is closed, the gap between the lid/display and the main body of the computer looks too big. i remember when the original unibodies came out this was a QC problem where lots of people had sloppy gaps, which I think Apple tightened up, kind of wondering if the rMBPs in general have the same issue, even though now we are on revision 2.
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ah.. hmm.. i mean i see a very very slight gap with mine, but it's because of the rubber around the panel. comparing it to my Air right now.. the rubber strip is a bit thicker than the Air's, so that's why it looks that way. it's not really a gap.
 
kennylukman said:
I’m not entirely sure though. The problem just occurred ever since I updated to OS X Lion, and continues to OS X Mountain Lion. The local service centre said probably my logic board is broken, and it costs like 2k$ for repair.
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That problem (gpu panics) is a known 2010 problem. Apple covers the cost for a logicboard replacement (it's 600-800 bucks not 2k) IF your device is under 3 years old. Even if it is older you could call apple care, sometimes it's covered for older devices too
 
Just hooked up my rmbp to my 46" samsung screen.
Its awesome, but the hdmi port seems really wiggly.
Is that normal?
 
Meister said:
Just hooked up my rmbp to my 46" samsung screen.
Its awesome, but the hdmi port seems really wiggly.
Is that normal?
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Hi, when you connect your rMBP by hdmi, do you have any issues on the tv with blurry text or graphics or colors which are distorted after a few minutes? or is everything ok?
 
jb3ptb said:
Hi, when you connect your rMBP by hdmi, do you have any issues on the tv with blurry text or graphics or colors which are distorted after a few minutes? or is everything ok?
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its more then ok. its fantastic :D also cause the screen is new. 46" is like half the wall :cool:
but the hdmi is really really wiggly. i took it out pf my mac mini where it was real tight. in the mbp I can freely move it up and down while it sticks in there. the quality is flawless though.

Battery life atm:
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Wuiffi said:
That problem (gpu panics) is a known 2010 problem. Apple covers the cost for a logicboard replacement (it's 600-800 bucks not 2k) IF your device is under 3 years old. Even if it is older you could call apple care, sometimes it's covered for older devices too
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Asked Apple about this, but since there’s only resellers in Singapore, Apple can’t do anything about my servicing, and the resellers charges up to almost 2k. It’s crazy. Kinda regret not getting that applecare :(
 
AlecMyrddyn said:
Engadget has posted a review of the 13".

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/29/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review-13-inch-2013/
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Is it just me, or is this review full of factually inaccurate statements? At the very least, some misleading statements.

In particular, the MacBook Pros sort of flew under the radar that day, mostly because they look more or less like last year's models, just with slightly thinner chassis.
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Only the 13" got thinner, right? But they are implying all the MacBook Pros got thinner.

As ever, too, the port selection is exactly the same on the bigger 15-inch version, so it's not like you gain anything by moving up in size (except for, you know, more screen real estate).
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And, you know, Iris Pro and quad-core processors.

That means you won't get any additional screen real estate because of those extra pixels, but at the same time, most apps look like they belong there.
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Aren't there other resolutions available in the display preference panel that offer more screen real estate?

Still, I'm glad for the review. I ordered my 13" rMBP on Saturday and am still waiting for it to ship.

We were able to eke out an impressive 11 hours and 18 minutes of continuous video playback. Mind you, that was with some pretty taxing system settings, including auto-brightness off, display brightness fixed at 9/16 bars (no dimming), the screen saver turned off and instructions to never put the disk to sleep.
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Wow, that is some impressive battery life! :) Earnest question: does an SSD ever actually "sleep"? There are no moving parts to spin up or down.
 
Oirectine said:
Is it just me, or is this review full of factually inaccurate statements? At the very least, some misleading statements.



Only the 13" got thinner, right? But they are implying all the MacBook Pros got thinner.



And, you know, Iris Pro and quad-core processors.



Aren't there other resolutions available in the display preference panel that offer more screen real estate?

Still, I'm glad for the review. I ordered my 13" rMBP on Saturday and am still waiting for it to ship.



Wow, that is some impressive battery life! :) Earnest question: does an SSD ever actually "sleep"? There are no moving parts to spin up or down.
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and someone tell them it's fan, not fans anymore.
 
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