iPod touch Have I made a mistake buying Ipod Touch 6th Gen?

mikebatho

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So I've got an ipod touch 6th gen arriving today.

I was just doing some googling, looking up an old issue with my current damaged 4th gen, and I stumbled on a forum on here full of people saying the battery life is terrible on the 6thG.

The first touch model I ever had burned though battery at a decent rate, as back then I was using it for web browsing as well as music. When I got the second one (4th gen) I also got my first smartphone at around the same time and used that for browsing, so with only using the battery for music - the ipod battery was amazing and was still running strong until I recently damaged the screen....

Baring in mind, the ipod will be used for music and absolutely nothing else, am I in for a huge disappointment in battery life compared to the 4thG? I know to keep the screen brightness down and have everything disabled apart from those things connected to the playing of music....

Thanks.
 

Relentless Power

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I owned the six generation iPod touch and the battery is absolutely terrible. Problem is the A8 Processor is to powerful and drains the small battery quickly.

What I have seen other forum members do, is either trade or sell the sixth generation iPod touch, then purchase the iPhone SE, which is essentially the same thing and use that as an iPod touch instead. For almost the same price point, I would not keep the 6Th Gen iPod Touch.
 

mikebatho

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I owned the six generation iPod touch and the battery is absolutely terrible. Problem is the A8 Processor is to powerful and drains the small battery quickly.

What I have seen other forum members do, is either trade or sell the sixth generation iPod touch, then purchase the iPhone SE, which is essentially the same thing and use that as an iPod touch instead. For almost the same price point, I would not keep the 6Th Gen iPod Touch.
Dammit!!

How about the 5th gen? I can still get hold of brand new 5th gen models, and I don't care about having the most up to date version.... would the 5G be better?

I'm worried I've bought a turkey :(
 

Relentless Power

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Dammit!!

How about the 5th gen? I can still get hold of brand new 5th gen models, and I don't care about having the most up to date version.... would the 5G be better?

I'm worried I've bought a turkey :(
I would invest in the 5th Gen. Its cheaper, managed better with the battery and since you're primarily using it for music, it will support your needs.
 

DanielDD

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Best way to know that is trying for yourself. If you're just going to listen to music I would advice turning on low power mode. Preserves battery life, no drawbacks
 

mikebatho

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And to put the cherry on the cake, my music library no longer fits on there.

I've gone from 32gb to 32gb, but not my music no longer fits. Is it possible that the OS takes up more space on gen 6 than gen5? I'm assuming I won't be able to delete any system apps?
 

DanielDD

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And to put the cherry on the cake, my music library no longer fits on there.

I've gone from 32gb to 32gb, but not my music no longer fits. Is it possible that the OS takes up more space on gen 6 than gen5? I'm assuming I won't be able to delete any system apps?
You won't be able to get the space back from system apps. Try updating to the latest software. APFS seems to give a lot of space back
 

mikebatho

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I alreadu updated to the latest software... I can't figure out what's taking up all the space... 32gb, actual memory 29. Something, and 22. Something free... :-/
 

Paddle1

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I alreadu updated to the latest software... I can't figure out what's taking up all the space... 32gb, actual memory 29. Something, and 22. Something free... :-/
iOS 10 takes up more space than iOS 6 (latest version for 4th gen). You might not be able to fit the same things on it. You should have somewhere around 27gb available.

As for battery life only you can determine if it'll work for you. It's not really an issue for me, but I haven't even had mine a year yet.
 

smorrissey

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So I've got an ipod touch 6th gen arriving today.

I was just doing some googling, looking up an old issue with my current damaged 4th gen, and I stumbled on a forum on here full of people saying the battery life is terrible on the 6thG.

The first touch model I ever had burned though battery at a decent rate, as back then I was using it for web browsing as well as music. When I got the second one (4th gen) I also got my first smartphone at around the same time and used that for browsing, so with only using the battery for music - the ipod battery was amazing and was still running strong until I recently damaged the screen....

Baring in mind, the ipod will be used for music and absolutely nothing else, am I in for a huge disappointment in battery life compared to the 4thG? I know to keep the screen brightness down and have everything disabled apart from those things connected to the playing of music....

Thanks.
Battery life is not terrible the model is faulty.
 

Plutonius

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Dammit!!

How about the 5th gen? I can still get hold of brand new 5th gen models, and I don't care about having the most up to date version.... would the 5G be better?

I'm worried I've bought a turkey :(
Don't even consider the 5th gen.

How long do you need the battery to last ? I do some music, web surfing, video, some apps and it last me all day (I have to charge it ever morning and it takes under a hour). Heavy gaming on it will kill it in under two hours but that was always the case on the Touch.

I highly recommend the Touch 6 but you can get a 32Gig SE for $399 and a 128Gig SE for $499 if you don't mind paying more. I myself prefer the thin Touch 6 with the battery life it has rather then a much thicker SE. The Touch fits in my pocket and I hardly know it's there.
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And to put the cherry on the cake, my music library no longer fits on there.

I've gone from 32gb to 32gb, but not my music no longer fits. Is it possible that the OS takes up more space on gen 6 than gen5? I'm assuming I won't be able to delete any system apps?
IOS 10 is bigger but I'm not sure that's the problem.

Did you set it up as a new iPod ?
 
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Reno Raines

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I had an iPod touch 6g. The battery was awful. I then bought an iPhone SE 64g. I use that now as my iPod and sold my 6g. I just could not take how quickly the 6g iPod touch would require recharging. Battery life is bad.
 

Plutonius

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I had an iPod touch 6g. The battery was awful. I then bought an iPhone SE 64g. I use that now as my iPod and sold my 6g. I just could not take how quickly the 6g iPod touch would require recharging. Battery life is bad.
How did you get a 64Gig iPhone SE ? The Apple store shows you can only get it as 32Gig or 128Gig. It's a better device but will run you an extra $100.

The battery life is all relative. The SE will get better battery life then the Touch 6 because it's much thicker. Unless you are doing a lot of gaming on the Touch 6, the battery should last the day although you have to charge it daily.
 

MattA

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Why not purchase a 6G touch and try it out? If the battery life isn't up to your liking, you can return it.

If you aren't streaming music, perhaps a used Classic would do the job. I use an iPod Classic 160GB for music, and it works perfectly. The battery lasts literally forever (well, not forever, but definitely longer than any iPod Touch!).
 

Paddle1

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How did you get a 64Gig iPhone SE ? The Apple store shows you can only get it as 32Gig or 128Gig. It's a better device but will run you an extra $100.

The battery life is all relative. The SE will get better battery life then the Touch 6 because it's much thicker. Unless you are doing a lot of gaming on the Touch 6, the battery should last the day although you have to charge it daily.
The SE launched at 16GB and 64GB last year and they doubled the capacities in March.

True about the battery, how long does it last? What is your definition of bad? What are you using it for?
 

Reno Raines

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The SE launched at 16GB and 64GB last year and they doubled the capacities in March.

True about the battery, how long does it last? What is your definition of bad? What are you using it for?

Yeah I bought it back in October of 2016 when it was still available.
[doublepost=1494957043][/doublepost]My battery would last barely two hours watching video or playing games. Anything more than just music consumption killed it very quickly or did for me at least.
 

Paddle1

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Yeah I bought it back in October of 2016 when it was still available.
[doublepost=1494957043][/doublepost]My battery would last barely two hours watching video or playing games. Anything more than just music consumption killed it very quickly or did for me at least.
Playing games and watching video does drain the battery a lot faster. I've got on average up to about 5 hours 30 minutes use out of it. But it sounds like they just want one for music. Here are some of the longer times I've gotten. The second one was more music focused.
 

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Reno Raines

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For just music I think it would be a good buy. I could easily get a whole day out of my 6 when I just used it for that.
 

mikebatho

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Don't even consider the 5th gen.

How long do you need the battery to last ? I do some music, web surfing, video, some apps and it last me all day (I have to charge it ever morning and it takes under a hour). Heavy gaming on it will kill it in under two hours but that was always the case on the Touch.

I highly recommend the Touch 6 but you can get a 32Gig SE for $399 and a 128Gig SE for $499 if you don't mind paying more. I myself prefer the thin Touch 6 with the battery life it has rather then a much thicker SE. The Touch fits in my pocket and I hardly know it's there.
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IOS 10 is bigger but I'm not sure that's the problem.

Did you set it up as a new iPod ?
Hi. Yeah, i set it up as a new ipod.

As I was trying to explain (but couldn't type properly on my phone :) it's a 32gb iPod touch 6g, in the strip along the bottom in iTunes states - total space 29gb(give or take) which I assumed was after the IOS, then actual free space was around 22gb.... before I did anything with, straight outta the box. surely that can't be right??
 

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Baring in mind, the ipod will be used for music and absolutely nothing else,
Although the SE is a good choice, it is quite an expensive choice for the storage size unless you don't have a large music library.
It is probably cheaper to just get an Android phone that has an SD card slot (just make sure it supports >32GB SD cards. Many older/cheaper models only support up to 32GB). The only downside is the lack of native support for Apple lossless.
 

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Why spend so much money on a device that only plays back music from your iTunes library? Isn't that why classic iPods exist? Surely you can get them with more HD space and a better battery.

This just seems like a problem of the past now that most people play music from their phones via streaming (and thus taking up less space), but I'm sure you have your reasons ;)
 

mikebatho

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Why spend so much money on a device that only plays back music from your iTunes library? Isn't that why classic iPods exist? Surely you can get them with more HD space and a better battery.

This just seems like a problem of the past now that most people play music from their phones via streaming (and thus taking up less space), but I'm sure you have your reasons ;)
Well I do like the option of internet access - should I ever need it in an emergency, but you're right, I could probably make do with a classic....

I bet they're pretty expensive now though, weren't they discontinued years ago? I bet the last few knew ones in existence are fetching high prices.... (I'm off to google/ebay that) :)
 

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Well I do like the option of internet access - should I ever need it in an emergency, but you're right, I could probably make do with a classic....

I bet they're pretty expensive now though, weren't they discontinued years ago? I bet the last few knew ones in existence are fetching high prices.... (I'm off to google/ebay that) :)
Well if you're going the iPod route I would just look for the right amount of storage. That will be either a 80GB 5G "Video" or a 80/120/160GB Classic (or the older 4G 40/60GB). They're old and could have/develop defects, so it may be considered a risky investment which is why you shouldn't pay too much for them. Everything is replaceable, but you might not be willing to take them apart. I would personally be okay taking that route (I have some experience with them), but it's not something you'd recommend to everyone.

At this point thinking back to that Touch isn't all that crazy of an option given the probably longer life span. Meanwhile I'm very happy with Apple Music on my iPhone.
 

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Hi. Yeah, i set it up as a new ipod.

As I was trying to explain (but couldn't type properly on my phone :) it's a 32gb iPod touch 6g, in the strip along the bottom in iTunes states - total space 29gb(give or take) which I assumed was after the IOS, then actual free space was around 22gb.... before I did anything with, straight outta the box. surely that can't be right??
Go into Settings (General > Storage & iCloud Usage) and see what's taking up the space. I believe certain iWork apps are automatically installed on the higher capacities.
 
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