Have One of These 16 Apple Devices? Software Support Ends This Fall

[goldmac2006]

At least the S6 was the first one to get the CPU which is also present in the S7/S8 models. And since the S12 will come with a different better CPU than the S9/10/11 ones since they have the same CPU it’s not a huge problem through in terms of software support

Correct. They have the same type of processor as those ones.

They just should have kept them supported and minus ➖ ai stuff on pre series 9 models !

 

[Homme]

Possibly (and I hope so) but iPhone SE gen 2 is not on the list of supported phones per the iOS 27 link at the beginning of the article. The only one shown is SE 3rd generation. Any updated list or info changing this would be appreciated.

Your welcome

 

[FeliApple]

Yup. Dropping the iPad mini 5 should be a criminal offense, too.
They saddled me with craptastic OS 26 and….now I’m stuck with this trailer trash? I can’t get the next one that at least pretends to fix parts of it? If that’s the case, it never should have been given OS 26, and be done at 18.

Federighi should be admonished for this as he’s the one ultimately responsible for it. The mobile platforms should have a new lead person… but the best person for it is doing Broadway plays now.

Anything that was given 26 should be given 27, period. I don’t care what they say about the chip platforms. Punt that initiative until this garbage is fixed. They owe us that. Yes, they OWE us. They broke it, they need to fix it.

As it stands now, I have zero devices under mainline support. Zero. I no longer have any reason to stick with Apple now. None. Sure, all my media is from iTunes, but with so many streaming options, that’s no longer the sticky ecosystem they think it is. There are lots of soft advantages, but they aren’t as sticky as they imagine. Yes I love Apple Pay, a LOT… but EMV works elsewhere, too (but I’d really churn my stomach at giving google all my receipts…). I do enjoy HomeKit… when it works… and today it’s less and less functional, less and less dependable. Siri…I have no hope for. It works on my HomePod, but … barely. Ironically, it works best there, but that’s like trading gonorrhea for syphilis.

So now I have a choice to make, as a free agent. Come September, I just might be moving, and I never thought I’d say that. I’ve been here since… 2003-ish, with the white iPod shuffle stick that was a USB-A connector, and I grew from there. Now …now I’m done?

They refuse to make a phone as thin as my 2016 SE (Air fans, don’t lie to yourselves… it’s not the thinnest. My SE is thinner than the Air at its thickest point on the camera wart… Apple should stop lying saying it needs the lens depth for the camera. Their thousand image processors are doing the work anyway.), they refuse to make a phone as light as my 2016 SE (yep it’s lighter than the Air! 113 grams). They can do it. They just won’t because they lost touch with the market. No one WANTS the fat phones. They buy them because they believe they have to… people buy them then complain about them. I hear it ev..er…y..wh.ere….

It seems Apple is done with me, so I guess I’ll be done with them. Time to scout around, find me a “retro” flip phone like I had in 2004.

Why did you update the Mini 5 though? Users have to start taking some responsibility.

It was obvious that it was a massive risk to update the Mini 5 to 26, especially as a MacRumors user, the reports of complaints during the beta and at the beginning of performance and battery life complaints (and design complaints) were EVERYWHERE.

Updating the oldest supported device is something you did. Apple did not force you.

 

[Smartuser]

Why did you update the Mini 5 though? Users have to start taking some responsibility.

It was obvious that it was a massive risk to update the Mini 5 to 26, especially as a MacRumors user, the reports of complaints during the beta and at the beginning of performance and battery life complaints (and design complaints) were EVERYWHERE.

Updating the oldest supported device is something you did. Apple did not force you.

People always complain about every design change, ever. Reasonable people have to discount for that. I dislike everything about the post you quoted except for the fact that that person updated to the latest version.

 

[Smartuser]

Yup. Dropping the iPad mini 5 should be a criminal offense, too.
They saddled me with craptastic OS 26 and….now I’m stuck with this trailer trash? I can’t get the next one that at least pretends to fix parts of it? If that’s the case, it never should have been given OS 26, and be done at 18.

Federighi should be admonished for this as he’s the one ultimately responsible for it. The mobile platforms should have a new lead person… but the best person for it is doing Broadway plays now.

Anything that was given 26 should be given 27, period. I don’t care what they say about the chip platforms. Punt that initiative until this garbage is fixed. They owe us that. Yes, they OWE us. They broke it, they need to fix it.

As it stands now, I have zero devices under mainline support. Zero. I no longer have any reason to stick with Apple now. None. Sure, all my media is from iTunes, but with so many streaming options, that’s no longer the sticky ecosystem they think it is. There are lots of soft advantages, but they aren’t as sticky as they imagine. Yes I love Apple Pay, a LOT… but EMV works elsewhere, too (but I’d really churn my stomach at giving google all my receipts…). I do enjoy HomeKit… when it works… and today it’s less and less functional, less and less dependable. Siri…I have no hope for. It works on my HomePod, but … barely. Ironically, it works best there, but that’s like trading gonorrhea for syphilis.

So now I have a choice to make, as a free agent. Come September, I just might be moving, and I never thought I’d say that. I’ve been here since… 2003-ish, with the white iPod shuffle stick that was a USB-A connector, and I grew from there. Now …now I’m done?

They refuse to make a phone as thin as my 2016 SE (Air fans, don’t lie to yourselves… it’s not the thinnest. My SE is thinner than the Air at its thickest point on the camera wart… Apple should stop lying saying it needs the lens depth for the camera. Their thousand image processors are doing the work anyway.), they refuse to make a phone as light as my 2016 SE (yep it’s lighter than the Air! 113 grams). They can do it. They just won’t because they lost touch with the market. No one WANTS the fat phones. They buy them because they believe they have to… people buy them then complain about them. I hear it ev..er…y..wh.ere….

It seems Apple is done with me, so I guess I’ll be done with them. Time to scout around, find me a “retro” flip phone like I had in 2004.

The iPad mini 5 came out in March 2019.Given the support patterns, which haven't changed much at all since then, there was no reasonable expectation that it's going to get iPadOS 27. The rest are the usual malcontent ramblings.

 

[Homme]

Why did you update the Mini 5 though? Users have to start taking some responsibility.

It was obvious that it was a massive risk to update the Mini 5 to 26, especially as a MacRumors user, the reports of complaints during the beta and at the beginning of performance and battery life complaints (and design complaints) were EVERYWHERE.

Updating the oldest supported device is something you did. Apple did not force you.

Nah. The worst risk for iPhones and iPads are the 32GB 8th gen iPad users because it’s the only OS 26 ( and the A8-A12 Apple TVs as well) device which is on a 32GB device). And it uses more space than those 32GB tvOS Devices.

 

[Roger Murtaugh]

We have been traveling with the wife for three weeks now. She did not bring her Apple Watch with her. I have mine, but I don’t care about the rings on vacation; we have started to think that these might be our last Apple Watches (Series 7 and 9).

 

[izac90]

Finally my iPad 2018 needs to find a new replacement but with Siri AI coming should i wait for it?

 

[Deanster]

I didn't know that. Thanks.

I googled for more info and found a relevant Macrumors article from exactly a year ago as watchOS 26 was warming up.

watchOS 26 Moves Latest Apple Watch Models to New Architecture

watchOS 26 brings a significant upgrade to the Apple Watch's architecture, transitioning the latest models to full arm64. The change was revealed in Apple's "What's new in watchOS 26" video for developers. The Apple Watch Series 9, Series 10, and Apple Watch Ultra 2 are set to move from arm64_32...

www.macrumors.com

Thank you, that's a legitimately helpful chunk of information - I was ready to be pretty cranky about Ultra 1, but a fundamental architecture change at least offers a solid reason, even if IMHO it's mighty early to be cutting off updates for a device priced like an iPad Pro.

 

[Homme]

Finally my iPad 2018 needs to find a new replacement but with Siri AI coming should i wait for it?

Yes you should. Or get a M4 Air since all models of it support 12GB of RAM

 

[Tozovac]

The first obsolete M1 product will be the real shocker.

 

[Deanster]

Why did you update the Mini 5 though? Users have to start taking some responsibility.

It was obvious that it was a massive risk to update the Mini 5 to 26, especially as a MacRumors user, the reports of complaints during the beta and at the beginning of performance and battery life complaints (and design complaints) were EVERYWHERE.

Updating the oldest supported device is something you did. Apple did not force you.

Part of Apple's brand promise (that they live up to in widely varying degrees) is that you can safely accept their upgrades, and do it with confidence that you're running the best personal OS in the world. OBVIOUSLY that's not the whole story, but if we're at the point where any user who doesn't carefully research the viability of an OS update on their particular device is at fault and 'has to start taking some responsibility', that's a vast failure of Apple's entire 'it just works' concept and promise.

We also have an iPad Mini 5 in our house, it's my wife's Candy Crush and Kindle device. She upgraded because the iPad suggested it, it runs OK, but not great, IMHO the 5 shouldn't have been certified for iOS 26, not because the hardware can't handle it, but iOS 26 is a hot mess and a mediocre performer on ALL hardware,

I'm not saying you're wrong that we've hit a point where the basic usability of iOS and Apple's other offerings can't be assumed by the average user.

I *am* saying that if you're right, it's a damn sad day for Apple.

 

[Homme]

The first obsolete M1 product will be the real shocker.

yeah especially the Air since that has 64GB of storage as minimum

 

[Deanster]

The first obsolete M1 product will be the real shocker.

The base M1 has been SUCH a great chip, they're ubiquitous, surprisingly performant and I 1000% agree that having them fall out of updates, security, hardware support etc. is going to be truly grim.

I have no idea how many M1 MacBook Airs and iPad Pros are out there, but it has to be a vast number.

 

[krell100]

As long as no Intel code results in a speedier more reliable and performant OS I’m ok with it.

 

[Homme]

The base M1 has been SUCH a great chip, they're ubiquitous, surprisingly performant and I 1000% agree that having them fall out of updates, security, hardware support etc. is going to be truly grim.

I have no idea how many M1 MacBook Airs and iPad Pros are out there, but it has to be a vast number.

It is indeed. The A14X is just what the Mac needed to unify itself hence the name to M1

 

[Virinprew]

That's why I already switched to Linux since 2 years and I have plans to get a Pixel phone with GrapheneOS this month. Plus a Casio watch instead of an Crapple one.

God damn Crapple.

Don’t you have a linux forum to chat with?

 

[Char Aznable]

Linux isn't a downgrade.

There's a kazillion distros out there, one is better than others.

Plus GrapheneOS isn't a downgrade, it's the opposite actually.

I think you're just brainwashed by Apple's ~~marketing~~ propaganda team.

Who's to say you're not brainwashed? I use apple products because they perform very well, but that's brainwashing, I guess.

 

[urnotl33t]

Why did you update the Mini 5 though? Users have to start taking some responsibility.

It was obvious that it was a massive risk to update the Mini 5 to 26, especially as a MacRumors user, the reports of complaints during the beta and at the beginning of performance and battery life complaints (and design complaints) were EVERYWHERE.

Updating the oldest supported device is something you did. Apple did not force you.

I was forced into it. I have a collaborative document in Numbers I share with someone else. Apple won’t let iOS/iPadOS use the browser based version to edit. Another behavior that should be criminal. So yes, Apple did force me.

 

[urnotl33t]

The iPad mini 5 came out in March 2019.Given the support patterns, which haven't changed much at all since then, there was no reasonable expectation that it's going to get iPadOS 27. The rest are the usual malcontent ramblings.

Indeed, except during the keynote they went out of their way to say “devices on 26 today will get 27 because we F’ed it up so bad that we’re taking a mulligan this year.”. ..except they didn’t.

Perhaps they should be taking more responsibility for this mess.

 

[Squidiey]

Don’t you have a linux forum to chat with?

What's wrong with criticism?

I was a former Apple user back then

 

[Squidiey]

Who's to say you're not brainwashed? I use apple products because they perform very well, but that's brainwashing, I guess.

FSF wants to know your location

 

[Smartuser]

I was forced into it. I have a collaborative document in Numbers I share with someone else. Apple won’t let iOS/iPadOS use the browser based version to edit. Another behavior that should be criminal. So yes, Apple did force me.

Indeed, except during the keynote they went out of their way to say “devices on 26 today will get 27 because we F’ed it up so bad that we’re taking a mulligan this year.”. ..except they didn’t.

Perhaps they should be taking more responsibility for this mess.

Sure, everything you don't like should be criminal. Evil forces of evil are making you install software and making imaginary promises. They're probably driven by Cthulhu himself.

I'm sure people discussing whatever platform you go to next are going to be just as enchanted.

 

[Smartuser]

Part of Apple's brand promise (that they live up to in widely varying degrees) is that you can safely accept their upgrades, and do it with confidence that you're running the best personal OS in the world. OBVIOUSLY that's not the whole story, but if we're at the point where any user who doesn't carefully research the viability of an OS update on their particular device is at fault and 'has to start taking some responsibility', that's a vast failure of Apple's entire 'it just works' concept and promise.

We also have an iPad Mini 5 in our house, it's my wife's Candy Crush and Kindle device. She upgraded because the iPad suggested it, it runs OK, but not great, IMHO the 5 shouldn't have been certified for iOS 26, not because the hardware can't handle it, but iOS 26 is a hot mess and a mediocre performer on ALL hardware,

I'm not saying you're wrong that we've hit a point where the basic usability of iOS and Apple's other offerings can't be assumed by the average user.

I *am* saying that if you're right, it's a damn sad day for Apple.

Can you point to some empirical data showing objectively that iPadOS 26 performs worse than the previous one?

 

[KPOM]

I think the base M1 Macs will get one more update. M1 Pro and Max maybe two? M1 iPads at least two more updates.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Golden Gate is the last version of macOS that supports the M1 Air and iMac.