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Not happening, iMac Pro is dead.
The AIO Gurman and Kuo call iMac Pro is in fact iMac Studio.
Low end (and mid tier) 27 inch is a very different segment of the market to the iMac Pro.
You are correct about the iMac Pro, however the prosumer level (low to mid tiers of iMac 27 inch) have not been replaced by M1 and might never be. We just do not know now.
 
Here's a new MR post on this topic that says:

Apple confirmed to Ars Technica that the 27-inch ‌iMac‌ "has reached end of life," indicating the company has no intention of releasing a refreshed 27-inch model to go along with the 24-inch ‌iMac‌.

Does MR not understand what end of life means either?
MR obviously do not understand what end of life means.

Stuff gets out into the EoL bin all the time. A lot of it gets replaced with newer products. This is not an indication that it will or will not get replaced with something Apple Silicon related.

Also we all know Apple does not speculate on to tell us their future product lineups until they are ready to at Apple keynote events. This includes what is not going to happen in the future. Is MR that naive not to understand this as well?

All this statement is saying is the current 27 inch Intel based iMac line is EoL. That's all.
Of cause the rumour mongers try to spin this into everything it is not - making up stuff.

The TLDR here is - Apple EoL'd 27 inch Intel iMacs and has said nothing and hinted at nothing regarding any possible future replacement of them or discontinuation of the concept from their lineup.
 
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I don't think they would need to put the Max or Ultra into the 27" iMac to make it viable. If they made it with M1 and M1 Pro it would better fit the gap that they need to fill. Much like a M1 Mini and M1 Mini Pro would fit the "Consumer/Prosumer" needs. I view the Mac Studio as a higher-end Prosumer/Pro model.
But it just cant coexist a iMac 27 M1 max 32Gb at lower price than the studio mac+display.

It just canibalizes those
 
So, if the 27" iMac is indeed dead, what do those of you who were looking to replace your old 27" iMac recommend? For me, the Mac Studio + Studio Display option is overpowered and overpriced. I was also looking to replace my MacBook Air, so should I just look for a non-Apple 27" display (Dell has one that reviewers seem to like) and MacBook Pro? Which MacBook?
 
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I totally understand why Apple had to kill the 27. It was an incredible computer with a beautiful screen at a very cheap price which lasted forever. It must have been hurting sales in all other categories.
 
I totally understand why Apple had to kill the 27. It was an incredible computer with a beautiful screen at a very cheap price which lasted forever. It must have been hurting sales in all other categories.

It has been an exceptional value for consumers since 2009 and a good system for professionals though it does get hot with extended use. I agree with the sentiment on them lasting forever. Consumers have the option to buy refurbished Intel models while they last if they want a 27 inch AIO.

I personally don't see myself buying a Studio Display because it seems to me to be a poor value. Dell and LG 4k displays would seem to me to better value - you just lose the integrated webcam, speakers, microphones.
 
At a very reasonable $700 price increase /s.
Yeah - I've got to admit it stings if what you'd really rather have is an all-in-one system. It feels like paying more to get less...

(Okay I know that a "component" system is in many ways more versatile, but many of us just never need or want to change anything during the life of the system.)

I spoke to my father the other day and he's now leaning towards living with a smaller screen and getting the 24" iMac. But in this case Apple will have lost out on a few hundred dollars (or £ in our case) from someone who'd have been quite willing to buy a larger iMac.
 
But it just cant coexist a iMac 27 M1 max 32Gb at lower price than the studio mac+display.

It just canibalizes those
Can’t tell if you’re saying 27” M1 Max processor with 32GB of RAM or 27” M1 processor with a maximum of 32GB of RAM. Haha the naming makes it tricky. Either way I get that there is some overlap, but my main point is that there needs to be some middle ground eventually.

Whether it’s an iMac 27” or Mac Mini there is a gap with M1 Pro that they need to fill. I think it is more likely the mini at the point, but there are a sizeable amount of folks I think (myself included) that wont pay 3600 for the Studio and Studio Display, but also would be downgrading if we went with a 24” iMac or Mac Mini.
 
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Some people on here are saying Apple will phase out the iMac. I can see their point, but i dunno. I mean Apple stopped including chargers with their iPhones to help the environment. So one could see them phasing out the iMac for the same reasons. That people are throwing away a perfectly good monitors with their iMac after years of use. Why not just sell monitors that will last theoretically much much longer and have people buy the mac mini, the mac studio or the mac pro to go with the monitor? And that makes sense. But i still think Apple will keep the low end iMac for the average person who doesn’t want to connect anything & prefers an all in one. One could argue that Apple will phase out the iMac Pro thinking that pro users will prefer a separate monitor to grow as their needs grow. Just update the computer & keep the monitor. I don’t know if that’s Apple’s plan, but it makes sense. Guess we’ll see how well the Mac Studio sells compared to the iMac.
 
Some people on here are saying Apple will phase out the iMac. I can see their point, but i dunno. I mean Apple stopped including chargers with their iPhones to help the environment. So one could see them phasing out the iMac for the same reasons. That people are throwing away a perfectly good monitors with their iMac after years of use. Why not just sell monitors that will last theoretically much much longer and have people buy the mac mini, the mac studio or the mac pro to go with the monitor? And that makes sense. But i still think Apple will keep the low end iMac for the average person who doesn’t want to connect anything & prefers an all in one. One could argue that Apple will phase out the iMac Pro thinking that pro users will prefer a separate monitor to grow as their needs grow. Just update the computer & keep the monitor. I don’t know if that’s Apple’s plan, but it makes sense. Guess we’ll see how well the Mac Studio sells compared to the iMac.
I still have yet to see anyone who had an iMac just throw it away once they were ready to upgrade. These machines still have excellent use for someone who is on a budget in the used market. When I upgraded from my 24" to a 27" I had no problems selling my old system within a week. As long as you're not asking a fortune for one you can get at least a little money back in your pocket easily.
 
I still have yet to see anyone who had an iMac just throw it away once they were ready to upgrade. These machines still have excellent use for someone who is on a budget in the used market. When I upgraded from my 24" to a 27" I had no problems selling my old system within a week. As long as you're not asking a fortune for one you can get at least a little money back in your pocket easily.
Same, back in 2016 I sold my 2009 iMac for cheap and it was nice to know that someone was still going to use it even if I upgraded. I don't necessarily disagree that there is some waste involved in an AIO but I don't think it's as drastic as one might imagine.

All technology has an expiration date, and even monitors evolve over time or kick the bucket. I've always gotten 5-7 years use out of iMacs, and by that time there is usually a case to be made for upgrading to a higher quality screen (for example, 1440p -> 5k resolution). AIOs also do not require batteries compared to something like a laptop, which can often need replacing every 3 or so years, adding to more e-waste. Like most things in life it's not a clear cut distinction.
 
Some people on here are saying Apple will phase out the iMac. I can see their point, but i dunno. I mean Apple stopped including chargers with their iPhones to help the environment. So one could see them phasing out the iMac for the same reasons. That people are throwing away a perfectly good monitors with their iMac after years of use. Why not just sell monitors that will last theoretically much much longer and have people buy the mac mini, the mac studio or the mac pro to go with the monitor? And that makes sense. But i still think Apple will keep the low end iMac for the average person who doesn’t want to connect anything & prefers an all in one. One could argue that Apple will phase out the iMac Pro thinking that pro users will prefer a separate monitor to grow as their needs grow. Just update the computer & keep the monitor. I don’t know if that’s Apple’s plan, but it makes sense. Guess we’ll see how well the Mac Studio sells compared to the iMac.

That’s not how people dispose of iMacs. There are healthy markets for iMacs going back to 2009 in my area. You just put it up on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace and someone comes over, looks at it, gives you cash and hauls it off.
 
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No, there are many disadvantages. The iMac 27" was only "attractive" for many because Apple did not offer anything else. So you can force people who want to use macOS to use the iMac. Simply offer nothing else or make the rest so unattractive that only the iMac remains in the desktop sector.

Have you ever thought about people like me who have to work with multiple computers? They can't use the iMac display. And if the computer is outdated or has a defect, then you can dispose of the entire iMac. This is not an environmentally friendly product. If Apple wants to pay attention to environmental protection, then there is no place for such a product.

The iMac display is bad from an ergonomic point of view. It reflects. And the display is not height adjustable. And you get a monitor forced on you. Depending on the specific purpose, there are much better monitors.
The cooling is also bad and gets loud. Even the current iMac M1 has worse cooling than a Mac mini because that has to go into such a thin case (and in the small version has only one fan).

This is much better when computer and monitor is separate and you don't have to buy an Apple display (which again has only one input port for one computer) but you can.
I can't think of any better monitors for a reasonable amount of money... I mean the new studio display literally costs more than an entire iMac 27, which is ludicrous... and they didn't even upgrade the actual panel. it'll be obsolete itself as soon as they put out one with mini LED and 120hz.
 


Immediately after Apple's "Peek performance" event on Tuesday in which it unveiled the Mac Studio and 27-inch Studio Display, Apple quietly discontinued the Intel-powered 27-inch iMac. This left some observers wondering whether we'll see a new larger iMac sooner or later, or if the existing 24-inch iMac is as big and as powerful as it gets for the foreseeable future.

iMac-27-Isolated-Feature-Blue.jpg

After unveiling the Mac Studio and Studio Display at Apple's spring event, John Ternus, SVP of hardware engineering, said that the Mac lineup's transition to Apple silicon was nearly complete, "with just one more product to go: Mac Pro."

The comment was interpreted by some to suggest that Apple sees the Mac Studio and Studio Display as natural replacements for the 27-inch iMac. Indeed, in conversations with MacRumors, Apple has suggested that existing 27-inch iMac owners looking to upgrade should consider its separately offered Studio products, while the 24-inch iMac is available for those still seeking an all-in-one experience.

And in what could be read as another nail in the coffin for Apple's 27-inch iMac, Apple also reportedly confirmed to Ars Technica this week that the machine has "reached end of life."

Despite these developments, not everyone has given up hope that Apple will unveil a larger iMac in future, though perhaps not as soon as rumors previously suggested. Over the past few months, persistent rumors from multiple sources have suggested that Apple is readying a bigger all-in-one desktop Mac.

Well-respected display analyst Ross Young last month said that an iMac Pro would launch as early as summer 2022. However, after Apple's reveal of the Mac Studio and 27-inch Studio Display on March 8, Young no longer believes that to be the case. Young explained that his sources were not aware of the separation between the iMac, Mac Studio, and Studio Display, which had added confusion to Apple's exact plans before this week's spring event.

The confusion apparently stemmed from the fact that the Studio Display features a webcam and built-in Apple silicon, making it appear in supply chains to be an iMac when it's not. Young now believes earlier rumors about an iMac Pro launching in June weren't referencing an actual iMac, but instead a Pro version of the Studio Display. Young now speculates that the 27-inch mini-LED panel Apple has in production could be a Studio Display Pro set to arrive in June, along with Apple's new Mac Pro.

Young's latest comments appear to corroborate information shared by Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who this week said that an "iMac Pro" would not launch until 2023. Well-connected Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman this week also reiterated his expectation that an iMac Pro is still in the works.


Rumors suggest a refreshed larger-screened ‌iMac‌ could be similar in design to the 24-inch ‌iMac‌, the Pro Display XDR, and the Studio Display. It's said to feature black bezels, and if it does indeed look similar to the Pro Display XDR, bezel size could be much slimmer and it could perhaps have less of a bottom chin, while being offered in darker shades than the colors of the 24-inch iMac.

As for what could power a new all-in-one under the hood, Apple could opt to use the same M1 Pro and M1 Max chips that were introduced in the MacBook Pro, and Apple could perhaps also introduce one additional higher-end configuration for the machine.

Whether or not the 27-inch iMac rumors turn out to be accurate, users who can't wait that long and want a top-of-the-line, large-screened Mac have the option of pairing a $1,999 Mac Studio with a $1,599 Studio Display, although doing so will cost around twice as much as the cheapest 27-inch iMacs did.

Article Link: Have We Seen the Last of the 27-inch iMac?
How long do you guys think Apple will support the Intel iMac 2020 27 inch. Im thinking about replacing my 2017 with one.
 
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Immediately after Apple's "Peek performance" event on Tuesday in which it unveiled the Mac Studio and 27-inch Studio Display, Apple quietly discontinued the Intel-powered 27-inch iMac. This left some observers wondering whether we'll see a new larger iMac sooner or later, or if the existing 24-inch iMac is as big and as powerful as it gets for the foreseeable future.

iMac-27-Isolated-Feature-Blue.jpg

After unveiling the Mac Studio and Studio Display at Apple's spring event, John Ternus, SVP of hardware engineering, said that the Mac lineup's transition to Apple silicon was nearly complete, "with just one more product to go: Mac Pro."

The comment was interpreted by some to suggest that Apple sees the Mac Studio and Studio Display as natural replacements for the 27-inch iMac. Indeed, in conversations with MacRumors, Apple has suggested that existing 27-inch iMac owners looking to upgrade should consider its separately offered Studio products, while the 24-inch iMac is available for those still seeking an all-in-one experience.

And in what could be read as another nail in the coffin for Apple's 27-inch iMac, Apple also reportedly confirmed to Ars Technica this week that the machine has "reached end of life."

Despite these developments, not everyone has given up hope that Apple will unveil a larger iMac in future, though perhaps not as soon as rumors previously suggested. Over the past few months, persistent rumors from multiple sources have suggested that Apple is readying a bigger all-in-one desktop Mac.

Well-respected display analyst Ross Young last month said that an iMac Pro would launch as early as summer 2022. However, after Apple's reveal of the Mac Studio and 27-inch Studio Display on March 8, Young no longer believes that to be the case. Young explained that his sources were not aware of the separation between the iMac, Mac Studio, and Studio Display, which had added confusion to Apple's exact plans before this week's spring event.

The confusion apparently stemmed from the fact that the Studio Display features a webcam and built-in Apple silicon, making it appear in supply chains to be an iMac when it's not. Young now believes earlier rumors about an iMac Pro launching in June weren't referencing an actual iMac, but instead a Pro version of the Studio Display. Young now speculates that the 27-inch mini-LED panel Apple has in production could be a Studio Display Pro set to arrive in June, along with Apple's new Mac Pro.

Young's latest comments appear to corroborate information shared by Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who this week said that an "iMac Pro" would not launch until 2023. Well-connected Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman this week also reiterated his expectation that an iMac Pro is still in the works.


Rumors suggest a refreshed larger-screened ‌iMac‌ could be similar in design to the 24-inch ‌iMac‌, the Pro Display XDR, and the Studio Display. It's said to feature black bezels, and if it does indeed look similar to the Pro Display XDR, bezel size could be much slimmer and it could perhaps have less of a bottom chin, while being offered in darker shades than the colors of the 24-inch iMac.

As for what could power a new all-in-one under the hood, Apple could opt to use the same M1 Pro and M1 Max chips that were introduced in the MacBook Pro, and Apple could perhaps also introduce one additional higher-end configuration for the machine.

Whether or not the 27-inch iMac rumors turn out to be accurate, users who can't wait that long and want a top-of-the-line, large-screened Mac have the option of pairing a $1,999 Mac Studio with a $1,599 Studio Display, although doing so will cost around twice as much as the cheapest 27-inch iMacs did.

Article Link: Have We Seen the Last of the 27-inch iMac?
 
… not that many could say i have my workstation on my carry-on bag … a portable(modular) workstation that can safely travel if it must with room to spare on your bag … already seeing production teams going crazy with this.
 
… not that many could say i have my workstation on my carry-on bag … a portable(modular) workstation that can safely travel if it must with room to spare on your bag … already seeing production teams going crazy with this.

I bought my 2014 iMac from a company that replaced all of their iMacs with MacBook Pros in December or January because all of the employees were WFH. If they ever do go back to the office, I suppose they could go with Studio Displays. The AS MacBook Pros provide a ton of power on the go.
 
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For those wanting or needing an Apple 27” iMac there is a good selection on Amazon. Nobody knows what Apples plans are
Yes!

I've just had a look at Amazon and Apple refurbished. There's clearly not going to be any shortage of 27" iMacs any time soon. Saw a couple of rather tasty iMac Pros too..!

Though not much help if you want an M1 chip - and as I'm writing this on my M1 iMac I can testify that they are very good.

Who knows what Apple's reasoning or plans are. They may have just wanted to simplify the iMac range into one "middle" size machine, or perhaps the decision has more to do with supply chain issues and they had to make a choice between the new display or a larger iMac for the time being...

But Apple's recent releases do seem to be giving their customers more of what they've been asking for, so I'd guess that if there's enough demand for a replacement to the 27" iMac it'll turn up sooner or later.
 
I can't think of any better monitors for a reasonable amount of money... I mean the new studio display literally costs more than an entire iMac 27, which is ludicrous... and they didn't even upgrade the actual panel. it'll be obsolete itself as soon as they put out one with mini LED and 120hz.
yeah, in 4 years… there are no 100% DCI-P3 144hz under 1000, and 5K is just nuts, that would cost >3000 USD from plastic-DELL, can't imagine Apple

So it won't happen soon or budget and you can't have a better display right now for that price. If you find this specs:
5K
100% DCI-P3
27"
(Plus one cable for power MBP and deliver data and non cheap black plastic awful back…)

just put the link here please.


Only thing I miss from Apple's displays is 16:10 ratio.
 
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I'm think the answer is probably yes. I suspect the 27" just didn't sell as well as the 24".
I think Apple has done a very effective campaign of subtly hinting over time that most intel Macs were going bye bye. So Monterey now has a few features that are not offered to intel Macs. This is like waving a flag that the race is almost over with. You don't see any articles convincing you to wait because M1 family Macs are new and software developers haven't gotten around to updating most apps to be universal, and rosetta 2 seems to have very few applications that won't work.

So here we are a few days since the fourth Apple event where AS Macs are announced, and most of us see Apple yanking the 27" intel iMac with no replacement and the Mac Studio solution as a more expensive choice with the Studio Display.

The 24" iMac never was quite the same, even though its is a slightly smaller marvel of capabilities. Yes it has a 4.5K HDR screen, and a 6 speaker audio and 1080P FaceTime camera and its got great colors for matching it to your home or business environment.

But it's neither the Mac mini or 27" iMac with M1 Pro/Max that people expected which are being avoided by Apple because of likely several reasons. Their manufacturing is limited due to parts delivery shortages, redesigned Macs are not ready, and its only March, so they figure they can stall for another 6 months while they sell the current AS Macs that are available. Why mess up sales by coming out with any other products was likely the reason this happened.
 
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Yes!

I've just had a look at Amazon and Apple refurbished. There's clearly not going to be any shortage of 27" iMacs any time soon. Saw a couple of rather tasty iMac Pros too..!

Though not much help if you want an M1 chip - and as I'm writing this on my M1 iMac I can testify that they are very good.

Who knows what Apple's reasoning or plans are. They may have just wanted to simplify the iMac range into one "middle" size machine, or perhaps the decision has more to do with supply chain issues and they had to make a choice between the new display or a larger iMac for the time being...

But Apple's recent releases do seem to be giving their customers more of what they've been asking for, so I'd guess that if there's enough demand for a replacement to the 27" iMac it'll turn up sooner or later.

The Studio solution does get you there. It's just really expensive for those who don't need the power.

But yes, you can go used and you can go hybrid if you don't mind using multiple computers.
 
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