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This thread has been edited to save space and time. First problem takes a back seat to this bigger problem.

Please read the title carefully.

Have you completed the setup of a *brand new Mac Mini with a *brand new wireless keyboard?

I bought a new Mac Mini Server, Magic Trackpad and Apple Wireless keyboard a few hrs ago. It's connected to my 40" Aquos and so far so good...until I get to the Administer Account screen for my new Mac. I can't enter anything in because my keyboard won't pair with the Mini. Magic Trackpad is fine. My keyboard also pairs with my iPad.

Is it possible the new Minis can't be taken through the entire setup via a wireless keyboard?




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Please ignore unrelated posts below.


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Turn the sharpness down to 0 on the TV and see if that helps you. It seems alot of people are encountering this with the mini hooked up to a large screen TV.
 
Turn the sharpness down to 0 on the TV and see if that helps you. It seems alot of people are encountering this with the mini hooked up to a large screen TV.
Thanks. I'll try it. One more sort of OT question. It's still on topic because I'm setting up my new Mac Mini Server I just got a couple of hrs ago ;) On startup I am able to go through the set up assistant via Magic TrackPad but once I get to a screen where I need to type i.e. Administrator Account info window, I can't progress because my new wireless Mac keyboard isn't paired therefore I can't type. So here I am with a brand new Mac and I can't even get to the desktop because my wireless keyboard doesn't work. It turns on because I can see the green LED blink. I noticed that when I click the caps key which has its own led that led doesn't come on when it should even without it being paired. I wonder why.

I have a MacBook and iPad beside me. Any app or hack I can do to use those keyboards?
 
are you using HDMI? apparently mac OS doesn't play nice with HDMI, you have to use DVI or VGA.

in win7 everything looks great with HDMI, in mac OS its all blurry
 
Remember, the DPI of a 40" screen at 1080p screen is relatively low for something used as a computer screen. This is going to be part of the reason it looks bad. 1080p video should be fine as it'll run native, but everything else is going to look jagged etc due to the low DPI

To put this into context, the 21" iMac has the same resolution and diagonally it's 19 inches smaller than what you are using.
 
are you using HDMI? apparently mac OS doesn't play nice with HDMI, you have to use DVI or VGA.

in win7 everything looks great with HDMI, in mac OS its all blurry
lol What are you talking about? Millions of people with great HDMI connections on the Macs ESPECIALLY Mac Minis out to a flatscreen. If anything it's my TV because it had the same text problem with a HD wallpaper when my Mac WASN'T connected so...
 
lol What are you talking about? Millions of people with great HDMI connections on the Macs ESPECIALLY Mac Minis out to a flatscreen. If anything it's my TV because it had the same text problem with a HD wallpaper when my Mac WASN'T connected so...

well for my mac mini, in mac OS with the HDMI connection to the TV it is blurry; boot into win7 and everything is fine. there are plenty of threads saying that switching to VGA or VGI will solve the problem

example: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3131093?start=0&tstart=0
 
well for my mac mini, in mac OS with the HDMI connection to the TV it is blurry; boot into win7 and everything is fine. there are plenty of threads saying that switching to VGA or VGI will solve the problem

example: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3131093?start=0&tstart=0
Thanks. Luckily my picture is fine. It's just the OS text looks aliased or something. I'm not able to go into display settings yet because my wireless keyboard isn't pairing with my Mini. Funny thing is I just paired it with my iPad and it's very sweet. My Magic Trackpad pairs but not the keyboard <-> Mini. Hmmm
 
did you try shutting down, turn on keyboard, then turn on computer?

you will have to disconnect from the ipad before this obviously

edit: have a wired keyboard to get through the initial setup?
 
i have a 32 inch sharp it has a pc jack vga type the mini uses minidisplayport to vga wire . the sharp has 4 hdmi jacks none allow any photo or video. the vga works well. on my sony hdmi is fine
 
did you try shutting down, turn on keyboard, then turn on computer?

you will have to disconnect from the ipad before this obviously

edit: have a wired keyboard to get through the initial setup?
Yes I did. I'd love a wired keyboard of course to get me through :cool: But I don't have one. Thus the misery. Do you think it has to do with selected the right language to match the keyboard? I bought a new Japanese keyboard but selected English for the language just to make sure I wasn't making any mistakes. I'll restart again in Japanese and see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't because the language selection screen is AFTER the pairing screen.
 
You know what. I'm am getting a pretty sure feeling that you can't start a new Mac with a wireless keyboard. Or at least a Mac Mini. The intro paring screen actually has a flashing image of a Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad but NOT any type of keyboard. Coincidental? I've tried everything. I cannot believe I can't even get into my new Mini Server simply because it won't pair with my keyboard. Holy mother of all mothers.

I'll change the thread title specifically for this because it's major.
 
If you buy a CTO Mac, I think they probably pair the keyboard and mouse for you. If you purchased the keyboard and mouse in a store obviously this wouldn't be the case.

With the Mac Mini it would be expected that you're someone who likes to reuse peripherals and may have access to a wired keyboard to use for initial setup.
 
If you buy a CTO Mac, I think they probably pair the keyboard and mouse for you. If you purchased the keyboard and mouse in a store obviously this wouldn't be the case.

With the Mac Mini it would be expected that you're someone who likes to reuse peripherals and may have access to a wired keyboard to use for initial setup.
ahh expected that I already have a USB keyboard? There could be hundreds of scenarios i.e. I gave mine to my friend since I was buying a new Mac. And even it if it was assumed, it should be written somewhere or staff should tell you when you walk out of the store with a big grin on your face cause you just blew a wad of loot for nice Mac stuff. WTF.

p.s. not saying this to you. Just sayin in general this is messed up. AND AM I the ONLY person on the planet that this has happened to? Wow.
 
You know what. I'm am getting a pretty sure feeling that you can't start a new Mac with a wireless keyboard. Or at least a Mac Mini. The intro paring screen actually has a flashing image of a Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad but NOT any type of keyboard. Coincidental? I've tried everything. I cannot believe I can't even get into my new Mini Server simply because it won't pair with my keyboard. Holy mother of all mothers.

I'll change the thread title specifically for this because it's major.

Probably have the keyboard paired to another device in your house.

You should check for that before making silly claims. After all, you're not the first person to attempt to set-up a Mini with a wireless keyboard. If others hadn't succeeded it would be a wide known problem.
 
Probably have the keyboard paired to another device in your house.

You should check for that before making silly claims. After all, you're not the first person to attempt to set-up a Mini with a wireless keyboard. If others hadn't succeeded it would be a wide known problem.
Silly claims? I guess you're the silly one for not reading the posts above. I have no other devices in my house except the iPad that I just paired it with to test that the keyboard was working AFTER I found out I had this problem. Also this is a BRAND NEW wireless keyboard as well which I posted above. Any new pairings would require a password which is exactly what happened with my iPad. This is a specific problem with this Mac Mini and this wireless keyboard for some reason.
 
Silly claims?

Yes silly claims ... Your below post:

You know what. I'm am getting a pretty sure feeling that you can't start a new Mac with a wireless keyboard. Or at least a Mac Mini. The intro paring screen actually has a flashing image of a Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad but NOT any type of keyboard.

... is nothing short of ridiculous. You think you're the first person to attempt to pair a wireless keyboard and a Mini on set-up? If others couldn't get it to work, this forum (and the rest of the internet) would know about it.


I have no other devices in my house except the iPad that I just paired it with to test that the keyboard was working AFTER I found out I had this problem. Also this is a BRAND NEW wireless keyboard as well which I posted above. Any new pairings would require a password which is exactly what happened with my iPad. This is a specific problem with this Mac Mini and this wireless keyboard for some reason.

If you paired it to the iPad then why do you expect it to respond to the Mini?

Bluetooth devices are only connected to one device at a time. Turn off the iPad and attempt to sync again.
 
Had same problem, needed to use a wired (USB) keyboard to initialize wireless keyboard. While fustrating it does make sense since the keyboard and mini can't talk to one another until paired. Good luck
 
Yes silly claims ... Your below post:



... is nothing short of ridiculous. You think you're the first person to attempt to pair a wireless keyboard and a Mini on set-up? If others couldn't get it to work, this forum (and the rest of the internet) would know about it.




If you paired it to the iPad then why do you expect it to respond to the Mini?

Bluetooth devices are only connected to one device at a time. Turn off the iPad and attempt to sync again.
You are a moron. It WAS paired to the ipad. Not any more. iPad is OFF. What a ****. And apparently other people do know about it. Not such an obvious conundrum is it.

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You realize that this thread you pointed to is proving my theory right? TONS of people are saying that they HAD to use a USB keyboard.
 
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You are a moron. It WAS paired to the ipad. Not any more. iPad is OFF. What a ****. And apparently other people do know about it. Not such an obvious conundrum is it.

Well, if it helps you sleep at night you can keep telling yourself that the Mini can't pair to wireless keyboards during set-up.
 
Try UN-PAIRING the keyboard from any other Apple device you may have already paired it to. Then, try pairing it to the Mini again.
 
Try UN-PAIRING the keyboard from any other Apple device you may have already paired it to. Then, try pairing it to the Mini again.
Other way around.

Firstly, my new wireless keyboard wouldn't pair to my new MMS. Shut down - start up several times. Turned keyboard on and off several times. iPad never had BT on in the first place.

Then I decided to pair my keyboard with my iPad to see if at least the keyboard worked. Voila, it worked. Not a faulty keyboard.

Everything unpaired and turned off. Back to square one.

Tried pairing keyboard and MM again. Still no luck.

As the other thread that dude above pointed to illustrates, this is obviously an undocumented issue at Apple. Something that Apple assumed we'd assume would be obvious. Apple assumed that someone buying a Mini would already have a USB keyboard conveniently laying around. Some people do, some people don't.
 
You realize that this thread you pointed to is proving my theory right? TONS of people are saying that they HAD to use a USB keyboard.

All I needed was one person to say he was able to do it to prove you wrong. I don't mean to sound like an Apple apologetic but it's just common sense, no computer company would release a product that wasn't able to pair with their keyboard during setup.

That's why companies have this thing called V&V
 
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