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Have you done a plastic surgery on your face?
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skunk said:
I have to agree with this. I'm all for cosmetic surgery if it's going to make you feel better about yourself but you can never expect to be 'perfect'. What is 'perfect' anyway? When does one achieve perfection? Even the most skilled surgeon in the world cannot guarantee 'perfect' results. Everybody's bodies heal differently.
Cosmetic surgery is something I've been considering for a long time but I'm too afraid to even make an appointment
Stay afraid, if it's the only thing stopping you. Take your own advice.dcv said:Cosmetic surgery is something I've been considering for a long time but I'm too afraid to even make an appointment
My nose is naturally bent, I'm often asked if it's been broken, which it hasn't. You know, I like it as it is. So does my gf who always laughs when she sees me in the mirror telling me that that is not how I look. Weird when your mirror image is so different.
I can't imagine anyone would want to have their nose sliced open for no valid reason, that is, anything other than a medical reason. The thought of it creeps me out. As someone said earlier it's a psychological problem not a medical problem or more accurately a manifestation of the fundamental insecurity of the hapless human animal.
I can't imagine anyone would want to have their nose sliced open for no valid reason, that is, anything other than a medical reason. The thought of it creeps me out. As someone said earlier it's a psychological problem not a medical problem or more accurately a manifestation of the fundamental insecurity of the hapless human animal.
I agree with what some others have said, I wouldn't recommend having surgery to seek perfection. I only know a few people who've had work done but none of them felt 100% happy after getting it done. Not that their ops went bad, they just didn't meet their expectations.
I don't say definitely no to cosmetic surgery, I've had reconstructive cosmetic surgery and I know it's helped with my confidence over not having it.
I don't say definitely no to cosmetic surgery, I've had reconstructive cosmetic surgery and I know it's helped with my confidence over not having it.
Strictly reconstructive is no problem. Everyone I know who's had it done for vanity looks worse than those who have let nature take its course.mpw said:
Rectifying an objectively obvious disfigurement is not the same as wanting a little more upturn to the nose.mpw said:
I'll be having jaw surgery in about a year in which I'll have my jaw advanced forward. The surgeon suggested I get added a more prominent chin. I never really thought much about it, but now I'm wondering what would happen if it went wrong... or even if it didn't go wrong, would I be happy with the new look? it's scary to think about
it's scary to think about
I think, with this kind of thing, less is more. There's nothing worse than going too far. Keep it subtle.
I think it's a no if you feel on your own you have to get it. Too many people insecure in their looks who'll just be newly insecure that their surgery hasn't gone according to what they expected.
I've had a lot of plastic surgery but of the reconstructive type than the cosmetic type. Every time I got worked on, things got just a bit worse. Because of my ravaged face (not that it looks that ravaged at all, actually) cosmetic surgery is largely out of the question as it would interfere with the reconstructive stuff. I wouldn't mind having my nose cartilage back though.
I've had a lot of plastic surgery but of the reconstructive type than the cosmetic type. Every time I got worked on, things got just a bit worse. Because of my ravaged face (not that it looks that ravaged at all, actually) cosmetic surgery is largely out of the question as it would interfere with the reconstructive stuff. I wouldn't mind having my nose cartilage back though.
Had a few moles removed by a Plastic Surgeon, but that was for medical (precancerous) reasons.
'course, it made shaving much easier afterward
'course, it made shaving much easier afterward
Unless it's repairing damage or it's quite simply a must for your quality of life I'm generally against it. It's a self fueling thing, we all have flaws and as people start to try and "fix" them more people feel bad about their own flaws. Do not read beauty magazines. They will only make you feel ugly. The hottest person I've ever met was one that most people would describe as an ugly duck, they had complete self confidence.
The only thing I would have done for purely cosmetic reasons would be my toes, they are all bent out of shape from being broken so many times, one of them has no nail which can probably never be fixed, though that comes under the repairing damage section.
I'd be lieing if I said that I wouldent change near everything about myself but that's entirely second to things that are far more important than cosmetic surgury such as liveing my life how I want, gaining the self confidence I've never had and ironically later on some non-cosmetic surgury.
http://www.internettrash.com/users/chainbreak/schmsp.htm <- good advice.
The only thing I would have done for purely cosmetic reasons would be my toes, they are all bent out of shape from being broken so many times, one of them has no nail which can probably never be fixed, though that comes under the repairing damage section.
I'd be lieing if I said that I wouldent change near everything about myself but that's entirely second to things that are far more important than cosmetic surgury such as liveing my life how I want, gaining the self confidence I've never had and ironically later on some non-cosmetic surgury.
http://www.internettrash.com/users/chainbreak/schmsp.htm <- good advice.
I think it's far too easy to be judgmental about others feeling they need or want plastic surgery.
What difference does it make to anyone if they do with their money what they want? Particularly if the results cannot be achieved by other means.
Dismissing them as somehow psychologically-flawed is moralistic tut-tutting of the worst kind. It's just another form of body-modification in my eyes but considering my history perhaps that's why I don't have a problem with it. My mother had a face-lift after she left my father; moved away to a new city and remarried and started a new life... good on her, I say.
The same people who might object to this would have no qualms about reacting differently to people based on how they look. We've just had a thread recently on 'what your favorite type' was; virtually no-one is immune to objectifying people or objectifying themselves based on all sorts of visual criteria.
However, the quest for so-called 'perfection' is another thing entirely.
What difference does it make to anyone if they do with their money what they want? Particularly if the results cannot be achieved by other means.
Dismissing them as somehow psychologically-flawed is moralistic tut-tutting of the worst kind. It's just another form of body-modification in my eyes but considering my history perhaps that's why I don't have a problem with it. My mother had a face-lift after she left my father; moved away to a new city and remarried and started a new life... good on her, I say.
The same people who might object to this would have no qualms about reacting differently to people based on how they look. We've just had a thread recently on 'what your favorite type' was; virtually no-one is immune to objectifying people or objectifying themselves based on all sorts of visual criteria.
However, the quest for so-called 'perfection' is another thing entirely.
yup yup. One of my mates at college (yea i know, "mate") said my girlfriend was ugly. he always had something against her because she wasn't a make up clad, super flirting machine. But she does have confidence, and maybe it's that what originally attracted me to her and I really have never seen a more beautiful person.
personal flaws are what make us us. I was reading one of them "celebrity" magazines on holiday, somehow imported from America (my first experience) and it absolutely disgusted me. I used to know what Jessica Simpson looked like years ago and she is now unrecognisable. The magazine banged on about operations she's had (and her sister) as if they were giving her a gold star, as if it was something to be proud about? Looking at her new picture she looked just like any other Barbie doll out there. I really can't understand myself or fathom the kind of mentality it requires to want to all look the same. To all have the same chin, the same hair colour etc. I never thought it was a human trait to look similar.
In that type of case I'm entirely for it if it's helped improved her quality of life, that is what really matters with these things.
Maybe, but I stand by my original thoughts. If one can achieve a high enough level of self perception confidence such that surgery is not needed, then I believe more has been achieved than if that same person had simply opted to have the surgery in the first place. Therapy may help here.
By the way, sorry for the atrocious wording but I overate and feel a bit giddy. I really must lay off that amazing new chocolate mousse recipe I just found. I digress...
Confidence in self-perception is not something that you achieve without constantly striving to maintain it, especially when taking the behaviour and reactions of others into account. It's not something that easily achieved.
I get the feeling that certain people here think that others are or should be just like them and if only they could have a sunny disposition about themselves and the world, they'd have no problems at all. It's just not that simple.
Besides, as someone who intimately knows, therapy is not some magic cure-all. Depending on the approach, it's of questionable value in cases of dysmorphia and personally speaking, I'd prefer to get my nose fixed rather than submit to many hours of work with a shrink or worse, start an SSRI habit.
Unless you're a Taoist, if something fixable is bothering you in your environment you take steps to correct it, not re-adjust your attitude towards it.
I must be a bit of a Taoist, then.
But seriously, the problem - when there is a problem - is that people are often trying to fix the wrong thing. I know I am.
Any woman will tell you that it's not how handsome you are that counts, but the size of your equipment. When plastic surgeons can figure out how to make improvements on that aspect, they'll *realy* be raking in the dough.