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Have you done a plastic surgery on your face?

Blue Velvet said:
Confidence in self-perception is not something that you achieve without constantly striving to maintain it, especially when taking the behaviour and reactions of others into account. It's not something that easily achieved.
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True, but as with many things - the harder you have to work for it the sweeter it is once you have it. I'm not saying it's easy, but I see plastic surgery (in some cases, maybe even many cases, but certainly not all cases) as a cop-out.


Blue Velvet said:
I get the feeling that certain people here think that others are or should be just like them and if only they could have a sunny disposition about themselves and the world, they'd have no problems at all. It's just not that simple.
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You make a good point. Admittedly I'm both happy and lucky. Expecting others to be the same may be unfair, but hoping others to be the same is still what I do. I'll leave it there though...


Blue Velvet said:
Besides, as someone who intimately knows, therapy is not some magic cure-all. Depending on the approach, it's of questionable value in cases of dysmorphia and personally speaking, I'd prefer to get my nose fixed rather than submit to many hours of work with a shrink or worse, start an SSRI habit.
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True. I know for a fact that I'm far too self absorbed to be able to get any help from therapy. I guess I mean therapy in a broad sense then, and therefore therapy probably isn't the best term to use. Nevertheless, I'm far too tired and cramped with indigestion to think of another... Clumsily, I guess a different approach to the dilemma may be more beneficial than surgery. In some cases and possibly oversimplifying matters, I see surgery as cheating and 'beauty' (as broad as that term can be) as the goal or as winning. Winning is sweet, but cheating to win sours that sweetness. Of course, this is very simplified and not the case for all plastic surgery patients. I just think that achieving that 'goal' through other means might be better for the holistic self in the long run.


Blue Velvet said:
Unless you're a Taoist, if something fixable is bothering you in your environment you take steps to correct it, not re-adjust your attitude towards it.
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True, to a degree, but what's wrong with both?... :)
 
I don't see how a bit of plastic surgery is any different than going down the gym to improve your looks. If that's what it takes for you to feel good about yourself, then go for it, I say. Certainly not something that people should get all preachy about.

I've not had any BTW. Toyed with the idea of getting my nose straightened (broke it some years back), but decided weeks of pain wasn't worth it.
 
mad jew said:
Probably, but I think that sometimes the easiest/quickest solution isn't the best in the long run.
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If you were talking about liposuction or something then fair enough, but this is facial plastic surgery we're discussing. What is the slower/harder alternative to a nose job or facelift?
 
'Cheating' and 'cop-out' are very loaded terms and reveal much in themselves. Cheating what exactly? God? Nature? And copping-out from what?
 
Very true, but maybe not quite fair at the same time. We're doing a bit of circle work at the moment (maybe because I lack arguments, who knows...) but I recognise a change in attitude is difficult no matter how confident somebody may be. Having said that, I stand by my earlier comments that it may be more beneficial in the long run. However, I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree. :)



I'd just like to make the point that I'm not referring to reconstructive surgery, in case that wasn't obvious.
 
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