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Have you ever beat anyone up?

^(last page) good advice.

Leareth said:
when you are the short immigrant kid with funny accent and wrong clothes, it is very easy to be picked upon.

when you cannot explain to the authorities who beats you up and why, is hard to stop it, even when 4 guys decide to beat up one girl and break her nose, jaw, cheekbones and knock out 5 teeth and leave a 4 inch scar on neck when tried to strangle her. and no they did not get charged with anything, they were 'nice good boys'.
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wow sorry to hear that. very unfortunate :(.

i have taken a few punches and given a few. usually under the influence or over something stupid, but no 'beatings'.
 
I'm short and thin, with a disability, so prime-picking-on material.

But I'm countryside raised, spent a lot of time outdoors, have a younger brother and we used to wrestle for hours a day everywhere, so somehow I seem to have acquired one of these 'don't try it on' vibes that some short people have ...

Couple of fights at school over my disability, but won both, and nobody picked on me after that. We're talking pre-pubescent age. Nothing since.

Have to say, couple of times, people have tried to mug me - first time was St Andrews in Scotland, @ 2am. Threatened me with a baseball bat, demanded money. Kept him talking while my lady friend moved away, then we both ran for it. Best tactic. Police picked him up later, did jail time.

Second time, London, Trafalgar Sq, walking to tube at 2am after work. Drunk man, wanted money, hit me on the chest, but he was a pathetic hitter. Just told him 'sorry, not today' and walked away.

Now got 2 kids to look after, and a house to pay, means have to avoid dangerous situations a bit more now. Anyone wants my wallet, I'll probably give it to them. If they aren't completely incompetent that is.
 
I've won and lost fights in high school, which was the last time I was in a fight. I think I was on the losing end, more often then the winning. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't in a lot of fights and even if I lost them, I think I inflicted enough pain so that folks thought twice about trying that again.
 
No. I have defended myself, there's a difference. ;)

I never abided bullies, but I was mostly just crass with them. (In my experience they are actually pretty reluctant to fight if you stand up to them.) The few times it got physical the bully was the intial agressor. Of those fights there was only one conflict I 'lost' when the guy hit me repeatedly in the back of the head and I was 'greying out'. Looking back it could have been bad, but when he heard a teacher coming the guy took off running.

Now that I study martial arts, there's only been one instance where I've truly considered using those skills to defend myself (against a rather pushy scammer in Paris). But my wife quickly came up with a diversion and we got out of there with not even a harsh exchange of words. :)
 
richthomas said:
^(last page) good advice.



wow sorry to hear that. very unfortunate :(.

i have taken a few punches and given a few. usually under the influence or over something stupid, but no 'beatings'.
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Well I led me to pursue weightlifting , taekwondo, krav maga and western martial arts.

fast forward three years and the 'rematch' had quite a different outcome.

nowadays I am 5'9" and can benchpress most guys.:D
Practice or spar virtually everyday, sometimes full contact.
and have learned to use body language to project the "don't even think about it" air.
 
Leareth said:
Well I led me to pursue weightlifting , taekwondo, krav maga and western martial arts.

fast forward three years and the 'rematch' had quite a different outcome.

nowadays I am 5'9" and can benchpress most guys.:D
Practice or spar virtually everyday, sometimes full contact.
and have learned to use body language to project the "don't even think about it" air.
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What a great story. I saw a guy on some martial arts program when I was pretty young that was lecturing about the "don't even think about it" air. It was something that I always aspired for. I think I've got it down after a couple years of BJJ training. I've also just decided I'd start krav as well since it's taught in the same school immediately after my BJJ class.

Anyway, when I was in seventh grade I had the bully problem as well. He was actually about my size so why he thought he could push me around is beyond me. He followed me out of school and was pushing me from behind trying to get me to react. I turned around and threw him to the ground and he ended up taking my shirt with him. After that I just punched and punched until my friends pulled me off. He came in the next day with a swollen ear, knots on his forehead and a fat lip.

The cops met me in the office and cited me for disorderly conduct. He got nothing aside from the beating. :rolleyes:

Since then I've been a peaceful guy.
 
I did martial arts in school and college, and people knew and surprisingly didn't screw around with me. :eek: (Typically kids try to "test" you.)

Both times where it got close to blows I walked away. First time in high school it was actually a friend of mine, and I refused to get into a physical fight. Second time, I was so pissed off I would have beaten the **** out of the guy and would have been arrested. :rolleyes:
 
Leareth said:
Well I led me to pursue weightlifting , taekwondo, krav maga and western martial arts.

fast forward three years and the 'rematch' had quite a different outcome.

nowadays I am 5'9" and can benchpress most guys.:D
Practice or spar virtually everyday, sometimes full contact.
and have learned to use body language to project the "don't even think about it" air.
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you are an inspiration :) i need to hit the gym more… tall lanky males with fast metabolisms lose a lot of muscle weight after quitting the gym for a few months :eek:.
 
Never beaten anyone up.

Never been beaten up either. Had glasses early on and were very shy, and could easily have been a nice target for anything. Luckily I were on friendly terms with the class/school 'bully' (some shared interests), so I dodged a bullet.
 
dubbz said:
Luckily I were on friendly terms with the class/school 'bully' (some shared interests), so I dodged a bullet.
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Same here. Back in primary school (age 6/7 - 11) when we were all the same size (except for waistband :p) I was good friends with the guy who later on in secondary school (11 - 18) became the class bully. Suffice to say we didnt follow the same paths during secondary school!
 
richthomas said:
you are an inspiration :) i need to hit the gym more… tall lanky males with fast metabolisms lose a lot of muscle weight after quitting the gym for a few months :eek:.
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well I kind of have the other way
I put on too much fat over the muscle so look overweight even when body fat % is under 22% (which is "normal" for female), takes a while for muscle size to shrink. SO I need lots of cardio, less weights to stay in shape.
I wear plus sized clothing and look at first glance like a overweight person, when i get into swim suit or workout clothes people are always amazed how large but lean I am :p or when they do the skinfold/pinch test

one of my colleagues who is a huge scifi buff tells me I look as he imagines "heavyworlders" would look like:D
 
Once back when I was in high school during a fencing competition. It was only a regional competition, so the general quality of the competitors was low. I say that because the guy in question was one of the bad people. I need to give some background to give the story context.

So back then, the rules allowed for "flicks" in foil (the type of "sword" I used). A flick is where you basically flick the blade, bending it so that the tip hits your opponent. It's used to hit the back of the shoulder and is mildly difficult to defend because a wider parry is required to block it.

Basically, flicking was something that the good people used regularly and it looked seriously cool (as cool as guys in white tights could look). So, naturally, all the n00bs, including the person in question, wanted to do it. The problem is, if you can't do it properly, you end up hitting "flat" which is basically whacking someone with the edge of a metal rod (which is actually square, so there is an edge). Usually, the touch doesn't register, and needless to say, it can hurt like hell. There's a reason we wear kevlar.

So after my bye in the direct eliminations, I get this joker as my first round. We go at it and he's trying to do flick after flick, smashing me all over the place. Now, if a guy misses like that, the easy thing to do is just step into the attack and stick him, but I couldn't keep it up because he was hitting me seriously hard. The more he lost points, the angrier he got and the harder he hit. I was bruised all over so I went to the judge and asked him to keep and eye on the other guy and his crap technique. The judge said he would and as I walked back to the strip, the other guy called me a *****.

So the next touch he comes at me again and does a really deep lunge, doing his same stupid flick. I parry it really deep and, in my infinite wisdom, bring my blade up and smash it flat on his back almost as hard as I could. The guy doubled over and screamed. The judge calls a time-out and I go back to my end of the strip and take my helmet off. The guy runs up behind me and sucker punches me with bell of the foil. So I turn around and give him a big fat beat-down.

We both got black carded. It was worth it. It's the only time I've ever fought anyone.
 
Capt Crunch said:
Once back when I was in high school during a fencing competition. It was only a regional competition, so the general quality of the competitors was low. I say that because the guy in question was one of the bad people. I need to give some background to give the story context.

So back then, the rules allowed for "flicks" in foil (the type of "sword" I used). A flick is where you basically flick the blade, bending it so that the tip hits your opponent. It's used to hit the back of the shoulder and is mildly difficult to defend because a wider parry is required to block it.

Basically, flicking was something that the good people used regularly and it looked seriously cool (as cool as guys in white tights could look). So, naturally, all the n00bs, including the person in question, wanted to do it. The problem is, if you can't do it properly, you end up hitting "flat" which is basically whacking someone with the edge of a metal rod (which is actually square, so there is an edge). Usually, the touch doesn't register, and needless to say, it can hurt like hell. There's a reason we wear kevlar.

So after my bye in the direct eliminations, I get this joker as my first round. We go at it and he's trying to do flick after flick, smashing me all over the place. Now, if a guy misses like that, the easy thing to do is just step into the attack and stick him, but I couldn't keep it up because he was hitting me seriously hard. The more he lost points, the angrier he got and the harder he hit. I was bruised all over so I went to the judge and asked him to keep and eye on the other guy and his crap technique. The judge said he would and as I walked back to the strip, the other guy called me a *****.

So the next touch he comes at me again and does a really deep lunge, doing his same stupid flick. I parry it really deep and, in my infinite wisdom, bring my blade up and smash it flat on his back almost as hard as I could. The guy doubled over and screamed. The judge calls a time-out and I go back to my end of the strip and take my helmet off. The guy runs up behind me and sucker punches me with bell of the foil. So I turn around and give him a big fat beat-down.

We both got black carded. It was worth it. It's the only time I've ever fought anyone.
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dayumm! good that you taught him his lesson :D
 
Melrose said:
...or diddle his mom and eat his veggies.
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Ah yes, the classic "diddle his mom and eat his veggies" plan. I remember literally laughing out loud when I read that the first time.

I'm required to engage in some physical interaction when others as part of my job, so needless to say I have enjoyed quite a bit of fighting over the years. While on duty the fights can be quite aggressive, but I would say the most entertaining ones are during training. I wouldn't say i've ever really lost one ( most likely due to pride ), but I have fought to quite a few bloody "draws" during training.
 
I was in a bar fight a few years back. Crowded bar with narrow walk way back to the restrooms. I needed to take a leak, so start heading back there. This loud obnoxious guy is standing in the way, completely obstructing entrance to the restroom hallway. I politely say "pardon me" as I gesture that I'd like to get by. He gives me a dirty look and says "You see this drink I'm holding? You want to be wearing it?". I'm like WTF? but maintain my composure and politely say "Look buddy, I don't want any trouble, just need to get by to go to the restrooms". He then takes his drink and throws it on me!! :eek:

He's standing there starts laughing with his buddies, and I *immediately* deck him right in the nose. Awesome hard punch, right in the nose, guy stumbles and falls backwards onto the floor. :D His buddies are stunned for a moment, like what just happened, but then they jump on me all at once. Right at that moment is when the two big bouncers get there and they grab the two guys off of me.

They take the two guys, plus the one that poured his drink on me and pin them to the ground. They must have seen the whole thing unfold, because the one bouncer turns to me and tells me to leave while they call the cops.

I must admit, it felt damn good to deck that guy in the nose. :)
 
ihsanfals said:
never... i hate fighting... so primitive :(
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That's a very primitive way to look at it. ;) Is that what you're going to tell the next guy who tries to rob you or beat you up? "Sorry buddy, you can't beat me up. I don't believe in fighting. It's so primitive". Hmmm I don't think that's going to work. ;)

You might also dislike lawyers and frivolous lawsuits and the bizarre legal system we have here, but if someone sues you, you have to get a lawyer and mount a legal defense (no matter how much you dislike the process). "Fighting" is no different.

No civilized person is out looking for a fight. But the fact is that there are bad people in this world who want to harm YOU. (and me, and the next guy). Maybe you're at a bar or night club and some roudy drunk starts man-handling your girlfriend. Or maybe you're walking down the street and some punk tries to grab your wallet. Or maybe as you're getting into your car late at night, some crook jumps out of the bushes and tries to take your car. You just never know. And these days there are people who would physically assault you just because you look foreign, or talk with a funny accent, or you're gay, or you're Jewish, or.... Since we generally don't walk around carrying weapons, "fighting" is the means to protect you and your property. Just like with the lawyer in the courtroom, you need to be prepared to defend yourself.

Fighting doesn't have to be two neanderthals clubbing each other over the head, as with the imagery evoked by your "primitive" comment. There are very graceful, beautiful (and effective) fighting styles like Karate, Krav Maga, Muai Thai, etc. It's an important life skill, just like knowing CPR and the heimlich maneuver, or how to drive a car, or how to use Email and the World Wide Web.
 
quadG5guy said:
That's a very primitive way to look at it. ;) Is that what you're going to tell the next guy who tries to rob you or beat you up? "Sorry buddy, you can't beat me up. I don't believe in fighting. It's so primitive". Hmmm I don't think that's going to work. ;)

You might also dislike lawyers and frivolous lawsuits and the bizarre legal system we have here, but if someone sues you, you have to get a lawyer and mount a legal defense (no matter how much you dislike the process). "Fighting" is no different.

No civilized person is out looking for a fight. But the fact is that there are bad people in this world who want to harm YOU. (and me, and the next guy). Maybe you're at a bar or night club and some roudy drunk starts man-handling your girlfriend. Or maybe you're walking down the street and some punk tries to grab your wallet. Or maybe as you're getting into your car late at night, some crook jumps out of the bushes and tries to take your car. You just never know. And these days there are people who would physically assault you just because you look foreign, or talk with a funny accent, or you're gay, or you're Jewish, or.... Since we generally don't walk around carrying weapons, "fighting" is the means to protect you and your property. Just like with the lawyer in the courtroom, you need to be prepared to defend yourself.

Fighting doesn't have to be two neanderthals clubbing each other over the head, as with the imagery evoked by your "primitive" comment. There are very graceful, beautiful (and effective) fighting styles like Karate, Krav Maga, Muai Thai, etc. It's an important life skill, just like knowing CPR and the heimlich maneuver, or how to drive a car, or how to use Email and the World Wide Web.
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*Applauds*

Beautiful.
 
There have been 3 instances in bars/pubs/concerts where someone has physically put his hands on -- or tried to put his hands no -- my girlfriend in an aggressive or unwelcome way. Each of those instances involved a little bit of physicality on my part, but I was also able to handle each one using only restrictive force, and a small amount of it. My girlfriend is an easy target, but when faced with someone whose merely half their size as opposed to a third, most of the aggressors backed off with little more than a well-placed defensive technique.

I was in a couple altercations in school, being the small geeky kid in the gifted program, but I was able to solve most of those with minimal violence as well.

One of my friends foiled a robbery by laying a beatdown with a 12 pack of toilet paper. The robber tried to make off with some merchandize and my friend hurled the TP at him; seeing a fast moving object he freaked, dropped his loot, and by the time he figured out he wasn't in any danger the shopkeep had caught up :D
 
Many many years ago on the bus on the way home from school, one of my brothers friend prevented a first year (so 11 years old) girl from getting off the bus by holding her bag. I didn't like what I saw, knowing what he was like I thought the only way I'm to stop this is by punching him. And it worked! Got a few cheers too.

A year earlier he stole my brothers bike, was a drug dealer, used to fire airguns at cats. Generally a twunt.
 
I avoid fighting like the plague . I was at a bar I've never been to many years ago back in the 70's and some guy punched me in the face for no reason. I didn't fight back but I left and waited for him outside hidden. I got his license plate number. A few days later I went back to the bar cut all his tire valve stems.

That was my way of getting even.
 
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