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Have you ever made a serious attempt at suicide?

bousozoku said:
It's a seller's market.

I used an anti-depressant called Effexor. It wasn't bad but the good stuff didn't last very long, though the side effects lasted as long as I took it. :eek: :D After a while, what a waste it was.
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I'm coming off of cocktail of Effexor and Wellbutrin now, before I start the Emsam.

I've literally been on every SSRI, tricyclic and serotonin-targeted medication on Earth. I'm really hopng for a breakthrough with Emsam. Like I said, I am rarely suicidal, but having to force yourself to function and to have to TRY to have a good time day after day gets old.

I'm also looking forward to getting back the sex drive I lost with Effexor. :rolleyes:
 
iGary said:
Like I said, I am rarely suicidal, but having to force yourself to function and to have to TRY to have a good time day after day gets old.
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Have you tried any other natural remedies? I mean the good stuff, not the snake oil you get at some places. I read a book about certain foods and vitamins that can help regulate those chemicals, can't remember the name, but there are a ton of them out there. Didn't work miracles, but I had more energy with certain combinations, a little more sleep, increased exercise, and time away from the computer. Getting more Sun helped too. Not that it's that sunny here in CA right now, but it's still better than WA. Still eat way too many carbs though. Like I said, I didn't like having to rely on the drugs to make me function, but for some people I guess it's better.

With me it was just that the cure was worse than the disease. And it was like they were just guessing with what drugs to prescribe. If one didn't work, they'd just want to try another one. Frankly, I'd rather struggle.
 
There were times when I was younger that I very seriously thought about it, but I had a few things that prevented me from ever making an attempt. And if I ever made an attempt, there would be no failing. If I was gonna do it I was gonna make sure it got done, and it would've been very easy to do. We human beings are really fragile, even healthy people who don't want to die end up dead.

That being said, if there's anyone under 25 who's thinking about it, at least wait till you're in your late twenties because I know of a lot of people who's lives changed dramatically for the better in their mid twenties, including me.
 
vniow said:

That said, I have thought about it way more than I'd like to and start to feel very uncomfortable when it just won't go away. :(
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And just last night this happened again. It was most likely due to the meds I was on (Vicodin for my teeth which sent me into a bit of a spin) but I was incredibly sad for awhile when I was trying to sleep and couldn't stop thinking about it, or rather how I would go abouts doing it in a way that left some closure to friends and family.

Its really frustrating when you know that you probably won't do it but think about it anyway. I know it'll probably end soon (the thoughts, not my life) but for now I'd settle to not have a tear-soaked pillow when I fall asleep occasionally because of it. :(
 
motulist said:
...at least wait till you're in your late twenties...
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I know that may seem like an extremely long time to some people, but realize that whatever is on the other side is probably gonna last a whole lot longer, so you might as well try your best to make a go of it this time around.
 
solvs said:
Have you tried any other natural remedies? I mean the good stuff, not the snake oil you get at some places. I read a book about certain foods and vitamins that can help regulate those chemicals, can't remember the name, but there are a ton of them out there. Didn't work miracles, but I had more energy with certain combinations, a little more sleep, increased exercise, and time away from the computer. Getting more Sun helped too. Not that it's that sunny here in CA right now, but it's still better than WA. Still eat way too many carbs though. Like I said, I didn't like having to rely on the drugs to make me function, but for some people I guess it's better.

With me it was just that the cure was worse than the disease. And it was like they were just guessing with what drugs to prescribe. If one didn't work, they'd just want to try another one. Frankly, I'd rather struggle.
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Yeah - accupuncture, shiatsu, massage therapy - went on a totally holistic diet for a year marathon running....I don't like them either, but they are better than the alternative.
 
iGary said:
Yeah - accupuncture, shiatsu, massage therapy - went on a totally holistic diet for a year marathon running....I don't like them either, but they are better than the alternative.
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They are the alternative.
 
solvs said:
Have you tried any other natural remedies?
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I don't know who you are, I don't know your particular case and I'm not a doctor. Having said that, the best advice I can give you is that if your life isn't working for you, maybe you need to change your life. Work with computers all day? Maybe you'd be happier with a lower paying job where you get to work with young kids. Live in the city? Maybe you'd be happier living in the country. Feel like what you eat causes mood problems? Try becoming a vegetarian. And even if you can't pinpoint what the problem is, you should try some new lifestyle choices out on a trial basis and see how you feel.
 
vniow said:
And just last night this happened again. It was most likely due to the meds I was on (Vicodin for my teeth which sent me into a bit of a spin) but I was incredibly sad for awhile when I was trying to sleep and couldn't stop thinking about it, or rather how I would go abouts doing it in a way that left some closure to friends and family.

Its really frustrating when you know that you probably won't do it but think about it anyway. I know it'll probably end soon (the thoughts, not my life) but for now I'd settle to not have a tear-soaked pillow when I fall asleep occasionally because of it. :(
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Sigh... meds definitely can do that to you (I hope that's what it is for you at least since I doubt the Vicodin will be a lasting habit--hopefully). I've been on muscle relaxers for almost two months now and, while they haven't sent me into a downward spiral, I get very frustrated when they've kicked in (or haven't worn off) and my mind is cloudy. There are parts of the last couple of months that just feel like I've been in a haze for days on end. Blech....

In any case, I hope you pull out of it soon.

BTW... on a tangential note... wisdom teeth surgery...how was?
 
iGary said:
I'm coming off of cocktail of Effexor and Wellbutrin now, before I start the Emsam.

I've literally been on every SSRI, tricyclic and serotonin-targeted medication on Earth. I'm really hopng for a breakthrough with Emsam. Like I said, I am rarely suicidal, but having to force yourself to function and to have to TRY to have a good time day after day gets old.

I'm also looking forward to getting back the sex drive I lost with Effexor. :rolleyes:
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I think a diet of fish, chocolate, and seaweed is what I need to feel good, but only two of those at a time. I don't do Euphoria well. :eek:

That last sentence says a lot. I'm so good at being down that I've not much practice at enjoying myself. Sad, that.
 
vniow said:
It was most likely due to the meds I was on (Vicodin for my teeth which sent me into a bit of a spin) but I was incredibly sad for awhile when I was trying to sleep and couldn't stop thinking about it, or rather how I would go abouts doing it in a way that left some closure to friends and family.
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Meds can really alter your normal way of thinking because they all can have side effects.

The problem is that you don't realize this at the time but only after you return to your normal self.
 
bousozoku said:
I think a diet of fish, chocolate, and seaweed is what I need to feel good, but only two of those at a time. I don't do Euphoria well. :eek:
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I never ate much fish until I came to Japan.

The Japanese definitely know how to cook fish and it is so good. I will go out to have a fish like I would have a steak in the past.

And the seaweed. So many types and flavors.

Dang, bousozoku you got me hungry thinking about these! :D
 
sushi said:
I never ate much fish until I came to Japan.

The Japanese definitely know how to cook fish and it is so good. I will go out to have a fish like I would have a steak in the past.

And the seaweed. So many types and flavors.

Dang, bousozoku you got me hungry thinking about these! :D
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Now you made me want sushi ... and all I have is chocoloate. :(
 
sushi said:
The Japanese definitely know how to cook fish and it is so good.
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An ironic comment for somebody with your user name! But I think we're a bit off topic, unless you are going out for the cheapest fugu you can find.
 
Doctor Q said:
An ironic comment for somebody with your user name! But I think we're a bit off topic, unless you are going out for the cheapest fugu you can find.
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It's not off-topic, if you consider the serotonin boosting effects of chocolate and fish. Of course, with fugu, you can feel better while you die. That's ironic. Oh, and fish has a lot of iron. Is that iron-ic?
 
xsedrinam said:
Would if be OT to like segue in to baseball announcers? I used to follow Harry Carey.
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Sorry, that doesn't really work unless you don't pronounce the Japanese term correctly: Hara kiri. Then again, people can't even pronounce kara oke properly. :(
 
motulist said:
I don't know who you are, I don't know your particular case and I'm not a doctor. Having said that, the best advice I can give you is that if your life isn't working for you, maybe you need to change your life. Work with computers all day? Maybe you'd be happier with a lower paying job where you get to work with young kids. Live in the city? Maybe you'd be happier living in the country. Feel like what you eat causes mood problems? Try becoming a vegetarian. And even if you can't pinpoint what the problem is, you should try some new lifestyle choices out on a trial basis and see how you feel.
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I am a vegetarian. ;) Plus I work at a hospital, making lots of money. I have plenty of friends, that I go out with all the time, try to get a lot of exercise, and I've up and changed my entire life several times in the last decade or so. Moving, new jobs, new relationships. Not saying my life is perfect, I definitely have problems, and plenty of mental and emotional issues. My problem(s) is(are) mostly physical. Unfortunately, in my experience, the drugs that are supposed to help often simply make things worse. Thank you though. I appreciate the kind thoughts. S'not all bad, the only that really sets me off now is politics :eek: but some days I don't do so good. Mostly just when I'm tired and/or don't feel well. Then I'm left wondering if my body is making me feel bad, or if my feeling bad is affecting my body. Probably both.

Things like Vicodin and Percocet often completely screw me up. Especially when they make me all numb. Careful with that stuff v.
 
solvs said:
I am a vegetarian. ;) Plus I work at a hospital, making lots of money. I have plenty of friends, that I go out with all the time, try to get a lot of exercise, and I've up and changed my entire life several times in the last decade or so. Moving, new jobs, new relationships. Not saying my life is perfect, I definitely have problems, and plenty of mental and emotional issues. My problem(s) is(are) mostly physical. Unfortunately, in my experience, the drugs that are supposed to help often simply make things worse. Thank you though. I appreciate the kind thoughts. S'not all bad, the only that really sets me off now is politics :eek: but some days I don't do so good. Mostly just when I'm tired and/or don't feel well. Then I'm left wondering if my body is making me feel bad, or if my feeling bad is affecting my body. Probably both.

Things like Vicodin and Percocet often completely screw me up. Especially when they make me all numb. Careful with that stuff v.
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Working in healthcare certainly hurt me, even though I occasionally ate meat. Oh well, I guess you can't have everything.

I was considering moving to Malaysia or Singapore. The lack of stress in Malaysia just might fix things for me. :)
 
bousozoku said:
Working in healthcare certainly hurt me
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It's rewarding, and not that high stress in what I do. The things I see are tough, but help to put things into perspective. On my worst day, I'm not as bad as some of the people there. Though I have had some pretty bad days. At least it's better than working for lawyers or stock brokers, which is what I used to do. Talk about wanting to off yourself. Or someone else.
 
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