I wouldn't worry too much Hector. Even if you wanted to commit suicide and did jump off a stupidly high building I think your ego is more than big enough to cushion your fall.
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Have you ever made a serious attempt at suicide?
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Damn that's a good comback!LethalWolfe said:
On a serious note, I think how events in one's life impact on them is as unique as we each are.
What I have found over the years is that everyone is different on what they consider stressful and how they handle the situation.
Blue Velvet said:
hence the "most" it's an estimate, i'm not looking for brownie points, competitive emoness bugs the hell out of me.
this is why i hate talking to people like this because they go all judgmental because they think i'm looking for sympathy, heck if i was i'd tell everyone everything, which i dont and wont do, my personal issues are my personal issues and for those types of problems you rarely can help unless you know the situation explicitly.
why is it a crime to reveal that i have a decent self worth? am i ment to be all depressed and mopey? if so thats a pretty ****ed up type of social pressure, i dont think i'm better than most people, i'm extremely lazy and generally do the bare minimum work required for anything, i'm not even sure why i recently discovered my eyesight is not too great and i just got glasses so that may play a part.
as for wanting to perceive me in a different light i'd just like people to stop being so judgmental and thinking i'm this stereotypical person they associate with my image. and then i go through the process of them being in shock and awe as to how i'm like, but even then sometimes they for some reason assume i have no social life and treat me in a downright wierd way.
what sucks is that if i'm ever honest about any of this stuff i'll get about 10 people calling me an egotistical narcissist, which by the way is a perfect example of what i'm talking about, which i suspect is at root jealously of my own mentality of complete lack of caring about what most people think unless it has a physical impact on me or i actually have to deal with the person closely.
as it is i dont much care about this stuff, same as the post before this is more or less a morning brain fart....
I do.Hector said:
hey that sounds like me, right down to the astigmatism.
This is the bit I can't understand. Why do you care how others perceive you? Do you not give up your freedom by wanting the world or others to be a particular way?
Again, why does 'it suck'. I enjoy being accused of arrogance. I know I'm just passionate and I know that people only make these judgements from their own feelings of doubt.
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it's not my fault most people suck.
anyway, i dont care what people think about me if it has no physical effect on me, however because of my lack of respect for most people in my sixth form due to the way they assume i'm someone i'm not and the way they treat me in return my friends assume i'm like that with everyone, which i obviously am not and therein lies the problem, through my social callast people think i'm like that with everyone, oh and it has nothing to do with intelligence or anything like that, my best friend is a secondary school drop out, it's just wether the person is a jerk or not.
anyway, i dont care what people think about me if it has no physical effect on me, however because of my lack of respect for most people in my sixth form due to the way they assume i'm someone i'm not and the way they treat me in return my friends assume i'm like that with everyone, which i obviously am not and therein lies the problem, through my social callast people think i'm like that with everyone, oh and it has nothing to do with intelligence or anything like that, my best friend is a secondary school drop out, it's just wether the person is a jerk or not.
Indeed it isn't. People are just doing the best they can with what they've got (sometimes they don't have much).Hector said:it's not my fault most people suck.
You can't blame someone because they can't play the violin. But you talk like you care. And what about the physical effect bit? How can someone thinking something have a physical effect?
Not to threadjack, but how do you block just one avatar? ooohhh...that would be awesome.dogbone said:
jadekitty24 said:
In Firefox you install adblock (and Flashblock while you're at it) Then you can click cmd click on any image and block it forever.
for Safari get Pith Helmet
Hector, there is something to be said for presentation and tact. You can spout off for hours on end that you are no better than most, but if you physically present yourself as being egotistical and narcissistic then it's not entirely the fault of the others for thinking you really are so. Just because you don't care what others think about you doesn't mean you can blame them for thinking you're arrogant when you've done nothing to prove otherwise. What do you expect them to think? That there's more there than what you're letting on? How will they know that unless they have some indication that there is (i.e., something other than you telling them that they should just take your word for it)? It's bad form to expect them to give you the benefit of the doubt as to your personality when you don't pay them the same courtesy.
P.S. It's fairly easy to fail at suicide attempts. When you're in a suicidal/extremely depressed mode you aren't exactly thinking rationally. Don't say that you wouldn't mess up when you've never been there. I, myself, have never been there, but have "experienced" it through others I've known.
P.S. It's fairly easy to fail at suicide attempts. When you're in a suicidal/extremely depressed mode you aren't exactly thinking rationally. Don't say that you wouldn't mess up when you've never been there. I, myself, have never been there, but have "experienced" it through others I've known.
dogbone said:Indeed it isn't. People are just doing the best they can with what they've got (sometimes they don't have much).
But you talk like you care. And what about the physical effect bit? How can someone thinking something have a physical effect?
it was a joke
as for a physical effect one being that people don't include me with some things because they assume i wouldn't be into it, particularly social things, for example consider me a jerk and someone i'd get on with, jerk acts like jerk to me, i completely ignore him and if he is argumentative i'll pretty much prove him wrong, then jerk go's and talks to guy, then guy treats me strangely.
physical was probably a bad choice of words, i should of said i real effect, if i jerk doesn't like me i couldn't care less, but when he turns non jerks against me thats when i dislike it.
i have an ego sure, a decently large one, how is having self worth a bad thing, it's what manic depressives lack, i'm lazy and get slightly better than average grades without doing any work do you think i think thats a good thing?
i have been very very very depressed before, for about a year or so after my mother died, but i've never been enfeebled by it heck i could still think up more inventive ways, such as headbuting a knife, i'm this calast due to the number of whiney bitches at school who pathetically "slit" (read: scratch pathetically) their wrists in a vein attempt for attention.
if you have real problems go see a shrink, posting about them on a forum just drags things up and you'll get advice from people who have no experience in the matter.
speaking of shrinks, i went to one when my mother died, hated it if i ever get asked "how do you feel about that" ever again i swear i'll stab someone. In the face.
since when do i have to prove myself to be modest to be able to say anything about myself, if someone says something about themselves i'll take it at face value, (unless it's completely silly) if they are lieing it's their own time they are wasting, from my point of view weather they are lieing for attention or telling the truth it has no effect on me as i'll reply the same thing anyway what do i care?
someone actually disagree with me on a particular point and say why, because just taking offense to the jist of my posts proves my point, no one gets me, oh and i'm looking forward to applespiders post, as she's actually met me a few times....
dogbone said:
Great info -- thanks! Fortunately I don't often participate in the same threads as Hector, but when I do, his avatar is distinctly bothersome. I'm surprised a mod hasn't addressed the issue with him.
Shrinks (psychologists, psychiatrists) seem really useless.
They're not supposed to inject their own opinions into the "conversation" so they end up asking millions of inane questions to help you. I've talked to three and two of them really tried and they were the ones working for almost nothing. The last one couldn't have cared less. She'd gotten her education late in life and I had to keep reminding her that she was supposed to be helping me with work-related stress.
I hear that people are helped but I wonder how. Are some people's problems less complex? Is it just a matter of not being able to communicate?
They're not supposed to inject their own opinions into the "conversation" so they end up asking millions of inane questions to help you. I've talked to three and two of them really tried and they were the ones working for almost nothing. The last one couldn't have cared less. She'd gotten her education late in life and I had to keep reminding her that she was supposed to be helping me with work-related stress.
I hear that people are helped but I wonder how. Are some people's problems less complex? Is it just a matter of not being able to communicate?
Hector said:
Real world awaits you with moistened chops.
Awesome. If you tried that then you might be giant-ego-worthy. But since it's just basic lack of grammar, you should be ashamed instead.
bousozoku said:
The only experience i have with one is that which i described, and most of my friends who have experienced the same thing, probably because i'm reasonably mentally balanced.
the "real world" i have no problem with, just the petty social manipulation of the average school, i hang around with the staff more than i do students.
pseudobrit said:
i've always thought that when someone attacks someone's spelling/grammar that they have no real valid argument. i write all my posts first go, i'm no grammar nazi i rarely use caps at the beginning of sentences or capitalize "i" do i still make sense? yes, can pepople understand me? yes, do you sound like a jerk when the only thing you can criticize me about is my grammar? yes.
when i'm writing a letter or anything that matters my grammar is perfect, as is my spelling in a forum post that effort is not at all required.
heck that sentence makes very little sense.