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HBO should just release an app for smart TVs (last I checked LG didn’t have one).
 
Apple should do a price drop for the product.
Or allow a bundle purchase price...
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WHY? So in 2 years they can drop support and say "in order to provide the best streaming experience...."

Putting apps on TVs is the worst idea possible, limited life cycle/support, poor performance, horrid security, etc.
This is the right thought process. You would not want to be forced to buy a new TV if an app gets outdated. It is more cost effective to buy a 2nd unit like an ATV or ROKU that can be upgraded at a much more reasonable price.
 
I have never been able to watch anything on HBO GO with non-stereo audio. Everything is stereo. It sucks. I have a 4K AppleTV. All other apps output whatever is the best audio encoding they have, except this app.

I wonder if this could have anything to do with that? I mean, that they are lazy and go to the lowest denominator for encoding. Lets see if once they end support for the old hardware anything imporves on the app... not holding my breath though...
 
Ohhhh. That's how you get rid of customers.

I have 3 G2 and G3 versions. Actually, the kids have them. Won't be buying any more. And right before the last episode of Westworld? Wow.
 
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I don't remember if my ATV is 3rd or 4th generation. Is there a way I can tell (besides waiting to see if HBO stops working?) Did the third generation come with the funky remote?

  • 1st gen is silver and looks like a thin Mac Mini.
    • Came with a white plastic remote.
  • 2nd gen and 3rd gen look the same, black squircle shape but much shorter than the later gens. No easy way to tell them apart other than checking model numbers or supported resolution.
    • Came with a silver aluminum remote.
    • 2ng gen is 720p
    • 3rd gen is 1080p
  • 4th gen and 5th gen look almost the same, black squircle shape but it's about twice as tall as the previous gens. The easiest way to tell them apart is by the presence of a USB-C port on the back, but also by supported resolution.
    • 4th gen has a USB-C port and is 1080p
      • Came with a touch siri remote, no white ring
    • 5th gen has no USB-C port and is 2160p HDR
      • Came with a touch siri remote, but had a white ring around the menu button
 
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You think they would at least wait until this COVID 19 mess is over, since streaming is busy as ever! Kinda crap to do it during this time.

On the flip side, perhaps supporting the older devices and codecs required dedicated server space and power that can now be better used to support more popular devices and codec. In other words, moving resources around to where the greater need is.
 
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You will upgrade. Options will continuously be removed whether that is hardware, or software.
Backwards compatibility has been eradicated. You will upgrade.
How else are they to continue to make money? #cynic.
 
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There is absolutely a jail break for ATV3. It entirely depends on what tvOS version is installed. Also, you can install Kodi without a JB using Xcode. If you ever sell an ATV on eBay, don't upgrade the tvOS, leave it deprecated... you'll get more interest that way.

You are confusing the 3rd gen with 4th gen.
The 3rd gen does not run tvOS, does not have 3rd party apps at all, and is not compatible with Xcode.
 
Ceasing support in the middle of mandatory shelter in place orders due to the pandemic is rather sub-optimal timing.
 
You can thank Apple for that and their all the time fiddling under the hood which is horrible for a products that has miserable market share that's shrinking. This is a simple case of developer not wanting to support multiple OSes and in this case i'ts Apple's fragmentation of the same product line. Basically five generations of the products somehow have three similar but yet different enough OSes.
 
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The most likely reason is that HBO is probably switching to a newer video codec or version of h.264 that the older gen Apple TVs can't hardware decode.

This is my guess as well. They don't want to have to re-encode or store two versions of every video.
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You can thank Apple for that and their all the time fiddling under the hood which is horrible for a products that has miserable market share that's shrinking. This is a simple case of developer not wanting to support multiple OSes and in this case i'ts Apple's fragmentation of the same product line. Basically five generations of the products somehow have three similar but yet different enough OSes.

That's a huge leap from something you pretty much don't seem to understand. This is hardware, not software related.
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I'm glad that I own a Roku.

Do you own a Roku from 2012? Oh look, HBO doesn't support anything older than 3rd gen Roku.... You essentially need a Roku newer than the oldest AppleTV they're supporting. https://help.hbogo.com/hc/en-us/articles/204871887-Which-Roku-devices-support-HBO-GO-
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Ceasing support in the middle of mandatory shelter in place orders due to the pandemic is rather sub-optimal timing.

It actually may be because of the pandemic that it was accelerated. More people using their service may have revealed that an unwanted amount of resources are going to supporting old hardware codecs and causing quality issues for everyone else.
 
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The Apple TV 3rd generation might be old, but Apple released an update for it recently. I still use my 3rd generation on another TV in the house for Netflix, Amazon Prime, our iTunes movie collection and Hulu. I don't have HBO, but it would be nice if they at least waited on this while people are stuck at home. Anyways, our Apple TV 3 works just fine. As long as Netflix and Prime still work on it and I am able to rent movies from iTunes and watch my collection, I will keep it around.
 

"BEGINNING JULY 14TH 2015, HBO GO WILL NO LONGER BE AVAILABLE ON THE CLASSIC ROKU DEVICES. HBO STRIVES TO OFFER ITS CUSTOMERS THE BEST POSSIBLE EXPERIENCE ON THE ROKU PLATFORM. DUE TO ROKU’S DISCONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE CLASSIC ROKU PLAYERS, HBO WOULD BE UNABLE TO GUARANTEE A GREAT VIDEO EXPERIENCE ON THESE CLASSIC ROKU DEVICES. CLASSIC ROKU PLAYERS (THOSE MADE BEFORE MAY 2011) HAVE A MORE LIMITED EXPERIENCE THAN CURRENT GENERATION ROKU PLAYERS DUE TO ONGOING CHANGES IN SOFTWARE. UNFORTUNATELY, HBO GO WILL NO LONGER BE COMPATIBLE WITH THESE DEVICES. "

I bet none of the conspiracy theories we see here were thrown around. And it happened again since then, silently.
 
I have a 2nd or 3rd Gen Apple TV device but tbh I tend to use my Fire TV stick more often. I only keep my Apple TV device to rent a movie from Apple, which has happened once in the past 3 or so years.
 
I dunno. Given Apple doesn't make panels such a TV would just be little more than a branded Samsung or LG TV with an embedded ATV at higher cost than both combined today. Sure some folks would buy it but is that really where Apple should go? You never know...

I can just picture it.
- Razor thin
- Made of Aluminum
- Thunderbolt 3 inputs instead of HDMI. You can buy dongles for old HDMI devices.
- No Toslink or RCA outputs. If you want speakers. Pair it with Homepods or Airplay compatible speakers.
- Resolution scales to keep the same DPI across all sizes rather than conform to 4K or 8K standards.
- Pro models too
- Separate stands

:rolleyes:
 
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