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Similar to the iPhone being a niche device?

Yes and no. In 2019, ATV had 16% market share in US (among streaming devices). That's similar to iPhone's worlwide market share but way lower than iPhone market share in US. For HBO, it's probably US market share that counts. 16% may sound respectably but that's for "connected TV devices". It probably does not account for smart TVs, computers and tablets which are also used for streaming.
 
Yes and no. In 2019, ATV had 16% market share in US (among streaming devices). That's similar to iPhone's worlwide market share but way lower than iPhone market share in US. For HBO, it's probably US market share that counts. 16% may sound respectably but that's for "connected TV devices". It probably does not account for smart TVs, computers and tablets which are also used for streaming.

Then why do they remove support for Roku devices even more often? This has nothing to do with marketshare or OSes, it's so obviously a video codec related move.
 
With Covid19 going on with people locked down in there homes watching TV, with no income to force people to buy new Apple TV’s at this time is pretty insensitive and cruel. at least wait unit summer

If you are so much wanting to not supporting older Apple TV’s at least do your research on what Apple is doing.
A new Apple TV is coming out in the next few months or less, You are forcing folks into buying at best a 2 year old Apple TV.

Not Smart HBO!!!
 
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Why would I want a home server connected to each of my TVs? Isn’t one in the house good enough?
The point is not a server per TV. The point is a home server period!
A lot of Apple functionality works better with one guaranteed alway-on always-running device available (in other words a home server). We already have the first tiny step towards this in having an aTV (or an iPad) act as a HomeKit server. But that's a tiny function, and right now it's not really expandable.
A real home server would have the same ease of use as aTV right now, but, among other things, I could install a wider class of apps, for example HomeBridge or Channels DVR, both of which right now run on my mac mini, but an aTV would really be a better place for them (especially if the experience came with less baby-sitting of the apps).

If you land up with that functionality in more than one device, so what? Transistors are cheap. Does it upset you that there's a ISP sitting on the A8 or A10X SoCs in your Apple TV that never gets used? That only one of your (I assume multiple) aTVs is handling HomeKit?
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With Covid19 going on with people locked down in there homes watching TV, with no income to force people to buy new Apple TV’s at this time is pretty insensitive and cruel. at least wait unit summer

If you are so much wanting to not supporting older Apple TV’s at least do your research on what Apple is doing.
A new Apple TV is coming out in the next few months or less, You are forcing folks into buying at best a 2 year old Apple TV.

Not Smart HBO!!!

That's not completely true. If, for whatever reason, you don't want to buy an aTV right now, can you put up with a month or two of choosing the app on your iPhone/iPad (maybe even a mac?) and AirPlaying it to the old aTV?

It's not a perfect solution (for me the most irritating part is if you pause the show for more than a few minutes the connection breaks and you have to restart it, but it works, and for a month or two it might be bearable.
 
The point is not a server per TV. The point is a home server period!
A lot of Apple functionality works better with one guaranteed alway-on always-running device available (in other words a home server). We already have the first tiny step towards this in having an aTV (or an iPad) act as a HomeKit server. But that's a tiny function, and right now it's not really expandable.
A real home server would have the same ease of use as aTV right now, but, among other things, I could install a wider class of apps, for example HomeBridge or Channels DVR, both of which right now run on my mac mini, but an aTV would really be a better place for them (especially if the experience came with less baby-sitting of the apps).

If you land up with that functionality in more than one device, so what? Transistors are cheap. Does it upset you that there's a ISP sitting on the A8 or A10X SoCs in your Apple TV that never gets used? That only one of your (I assume multiple) aTVs is handling HomeKit?
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That's not completely true. If, for whatever reason, you don't want to buy an aTV right now, can you put up with a month or two of choosing the app on your iPhone/iPad (maybe even a mac?) and AirPlaying it to the old aTV?

It's not a perfect solution (for me the most irritating part is if you pause the show for more than a few minutes the connection breaks and you have to restart it, but it works, and for a month or two it might be bearable.
Ok, but why would I want my home server sitting where my TV is, instead of where my WAN connection is?
 
Ok, but why would I want my home server sitting where my TV is, instead of where my WAN connection is?

Because, uh, wifi?

I do not understand what you are arguing.
Do you agree that a home server would benefit the Apple ecosystem?
Do you agree that such a device in the form of software running on a $200 aTV is an easier sell than a separate $500 box?

So then what's your complaint? People should prefer a dedicated, hard to maintain $500 box rather than a cheap and easy $200 box because
- they might have multiple servers and
- the server will be in the wrong place?
Dude. What are you thinking?

You do understand that "home server" means "always on, running utility programs with no interesting UI", don't you?
It does NOT mean "tower box with 5 PCI slots running Linux and using 350W".
 
Because, uh, wifi?

I do not understand what you are arguing.
Do you agree that a home server would benefit the Apple ecosystem?
Do you agree that such a device in the form of software running on a $200 aTV is an easier sell than a separate $500 box?

So then what's your complaint? People should prefer a dedicated, hard to maintain $500 box rather than a cheap and easy $200 box because
- they might have multiple servers and
- the server will be in the wrong place?
Dude. What are you thinking?

You do understand that "home server" means "always on, running utility programs with no interesting UI", don't you?
It does NOT mean "tower box with 5 PCI slots running Linux and using 350W".
I already have an apple home server, plugged into an Ethernet cable, so that i don’t have to rely on unreliable wifi. Not sure why sticking it in an Apple TV is the best use case. Hell, if apple is going to come up with a dedicated home server, I’d rather it be embedded in a router.
 
In those cases, those systems have been retired for a long time. Removing support doesn't necessarily mean video will no longer work. But yeah, I would guess that for every reason you can think of, all content providers want to concentrate on one codec and one codec only. That means leaving a lot of products behind.

In the case of the PS3, the video playback for HBO Go stopped working the date that HBO indicted that they would stop supporting the platform. The HBO Go PS3 app itself hadn't been updated in a while, but it kept working until it no longer did.
 
Sounds fishy. It’s just a video streaming app.

No company can support everything forever... Even developers stop updating apps as they move on.. I still have Apple TV 3 in the other room, and used HBO in the past....... Since there are other ways to watch HBO online, I deem this as good still
 
That's a huge leap from something you pretty much don't seem to understand. This is hardware, not software related.
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Hardware related? HBO GO doesn't offer none of the 4K no HDR content and switching whole library to some new fancy codec is just a huge speculation. Most likey they simply have decided not to support EOL devices no more, that's about it.
 
Hardware related? HBO GO doesn't offer none of the 4K no HDR content and switching whole library to some new fancy codec is just a huge speculation. Most likey they simply have decided not to support EOL devices no more, that's about it.

Moving to the current industry standard codec, h.265, does not require you to be streaming 4k or HDR. There's nothing new or fancy about it. If they were going to not support EOL devices, the gen 2 would have come before the gen 3 would it not?

How would you feel if an announcement of HBO moving to 4K and HDR came in the next couple of months?
 
For those of you on ATV Gen 3, you can probably just cancel HBO Now and subscribe to HBO Channel in Apple TV app on the device. I'm sure Apple's own servers will continue to support the streaming from there. And it might be why HBO is sunsetting support. This doesn't help HBO Go folks through their Cable Subscriptions, but it's something at least for those on the HBO Now platform.

Nah..HBO pulled Apple CHannel :(
 
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