HBO Max Password Sharing Crackdown Getting Serious in September

[laptech]

Neither you or I have the data to answer that. Could it be the number of unpaid users has skyrocketed since COVID and that is, for any business, a great loss of income? I don't have a copy of the terms of service from a decade ago available. Do you?

And I'm sure you're smart enough to know that just because you do something wrong and no one does anything doesn't suddenly make it OK. Is that what you would teach your kids?

Your forgetting a very important fact, it was not wrong to share a Netflix password because as it has been pointed out, sharing the password was something Netflix customers had been doing for years and Netflix did nothing. Netflix then decided to change their mind and now say password sharing is wrong and they changed the terms and conditions to reflect this change of mind.

Netflix's excuse for stopping password sharing is because they said they needed more money to be able to afford to pay to have the best shows on Netflix. The question is, has that happened? Have customers who were members prior to the password sharing lockdown and still a member now, have they seen a vast improvement in the quality of shows being streamed or is it still the same as before?

 

[iMac The Knife]

Oh, there we go...legitimize not paying for it by saying we're ALL paying for it one way or another. Hilarious. Which way is your friend in another state who is using your login "paying" for it? Spare me.

Not sure where you've been lately, but the cost of everything is UP. EVERYTHING. Quit complaining and pay for what you use.

I will complain all I want to. And, I expect to get the same usage that I've been getting for 15 years. My family that uses this service has been able to use it without issue for 15 years. Therefore, they've set this expectation, not me. This really isn't that difficult to understand.

 

[I7guy]

Your forgetting a very important fact, it was not wrong to share a Netflix password because as it has been pointed out, sharing the password was something Netflix customers had been doing for years and Netflix did nothing.

The past is not relevant. Lots of things in the past are different than today; eg smoking.

Netflix then decided to change their mind and now say password sharing is wrong and they changed the terms and conditions to reflect this change of mind.

And they are allowed. And you can unsubscribe if you don’t like these new rules.

Netflix's excuse for stopping password sharing is because they said they needed more money to be able to afford to pay to have the best shows on Netflix. The question is, has that happened? Have customers who were members prior to the password sharing lockdown and still a member now, have they seen a vast improvement in the quality of shows being streamed or is it still the same as before?

One can rationalize all they want. The bottom line, don’t use Netflix if you don’t like their service. If you believe the quality of shows isn’t to your liking, quit the service. Easy-peasy.

 

[darngooddesign]

Maybe cause we were told to share

And it was your right to share, back when they encouraged you to share. Now it isnt.

 

[darngooddesign]

I will complain all I want to. And, I expect to get the same usage that I've been getting for 15 years. My family that uses this service has been able to use it without issue for 15 years. Therefore, they've set this expectation, not me. This really isn't that difficult to understand.

So eitehr you use it like you did 15 years ago, DVDs by mail, or you accept that usage changes over time.

 

[iMac The Knife]

So eitehr you use it like you did 15 years ago, DVDs by mail, or you accept that usage changes over time.

It wasn't DVD's by mail 15 years ago, but nice try. It was a streaming service then, and it is a streaming service now. The expectation of being able to use my streams however I wanted to was set by HBO.

 

[turbineseaplane]

You’re neither entitled to something you don’t pay for, nor are you entitled to get it at a low price you choose. You don’t go to a grocery store and say “hey these prices went up, so I’m just going to steal this food” do you?

Tangible items at a grocery store also don't have a marginal cost of essentially zero.

When these companies are advertising X amount of simultaneous streams per account, it should not matter one bit where that person is located. It doesn't cost them a nickel more based upon that.

If you pay for X streams, you should be able to use X streams how ever you'd like.

 

[laptech]

And it was your right to share, back when they encouraged you to share. Now it isnt.

Which is why the question has to asked as to has the service that Netflix provided improved since they stopped password sharing because Netflix's reason for preventing password sharing was so it could pay for better shows and to give customers a better streaming experience. Have Netflix done this? because if not then it shows their reason for preventing password sharing was nothing more than to make the company executives even richer.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Did the TOS 15 years ago say all the users had to be in the same household? Please provide concrete evidence.

A household is a pointless construct in this situation.

If these companies want to be on the level, offer X number of streams and let people use them where/how they want.

You pay for 1 ... you get 1...
You pay for 3 ... you get 3 ...

 

[laptech]

A household is a pointless construct in this situation.

If these companies want to be on the level, offer X number of streams and let people use them where/how they want.

You pay for 1 ... you get 1...
You pay for 3 ... you get 3 ...

I do not use any streaming service thus I do not know how it works.

If you pay for 3 does that mean you get to use the streaming service in 3 different locations in the property the account is registered, 3 different devices such as a laptop, mobile phone and a tablet or is it a combination of the two?

Also if it's 3, can a child at college use one of the streams in their dorm room or is it restricted to the confines of the property of the customer?

 

[Timpetus]

Already been on the high seas for a while. Get yourself a VPN and a lifetime Plex Pass, and you're all set for life with just a bit of work to set it up and keep your library up to date.

 

[Ursadorable]

It wasn't DVD's by mail 15 years ago, but nice try. It was a streaming service then, and it is a streaming service now. The expectation of being able to use my streams however I wanted to was set by HBO.

They did start with DVDs by mail, but it was more than 15 years ago.

It all began in April 1998, when Netflix started renting out DVD’s by mail. Only a year later Netflix changed its pay-for-use model into a subscription model. Nearly a decade later, Netflix changed their proposition to a streaming service, which changed the way millions of people spend their free time. There are new entrants in the market, such as Amazon Prime, Hulu Plus and Facebook Watch, yet Netflix is by far the leader, serving 125 million customers and generating 11.7 billion in revenues in 2017.

 

[iMac The Knife]

Already been on the high seas for a while. Get yourself a VPN and a lifetime Plex Pass, and you're all set for life with just a bit of work to set it up and keep your library up to date.

Plex is the way to go for sure. I have the lifetime Plex Pass and it was well worth the money!

 

[iMac The Knife]

They did start with DVDs by mail, but it was more than 15 years ago.

I'm not talking about Netflix. This article is about HBO Max.

 

[Premium1]

Man the amount of people simping for big corporations is wild. Hope they have stock in the company with how they bend over backwards to defend them. Using “household” is weak if you advertise X amount of streams. Location should not matter. And no it’s not “stealing” when you are paying for so many streams.

 

[turbineseaplane]

it shows their reason for preventing password sharing was nothing more than to make the company executives even richer.

...this is always their reason.

 

[Hank001]

I would rather go back to physical media. And if it’s digital, I don’t accept the crappy licensing terms we get now.

As an example, I emigrated back to Europe as the USA is no longer a democracy, and I had to change territories. Over 50 movies I bought on Apple are gone now (unless I move back to the States). Movies I paid for.

Good luck with you emigrating back to Europe, only to find out about DVD DRM
DVD region codes are a digital rights management...

 

[jarman92]

People also drove around without seatbelts for decades until they made a law saying you need to use one to drive. Does that mean the lawmakers encouraged the dangerous practice before they made the law?

Y'all trying to somehow legitimize using a service for free is exhausting.

That’s not remotely the same thing in so many different ways I can’t even begin to list them.

 

[Squidiey]

At this point of greed, in my opinion, pirac.y is the solution.

YARR!

 

[turbineseaplane]

At this point of greed, in my opinion, pirac.y is the solution.

YARR!

Indeed sir!

All aboard the Black Pearl!

 

[votdfak]

RealDebrid

 

[darngooddesign]

It wasn't DVD's by mail 15 years ago, but nice try. It was a streaming service then, and it is a streaming service now. The expectation of being able to use my streams however I wanted to was set by HBO.

You couldn't use them how you wanted, you could use them how HBO wanted.

 

[iMac The Knife]

You couldn't use them how you wanted, you could use them how HBO wanted.

That is why I said the expectation of being able to use my streams how I wanted was set by HBO.

 

[darngooddesign]

That is why I said the expectation of being able to use my streams how I wanted was set by HBO.

And now they have changed the way you are allowed to use the streams.

 

[iMac The Knife]

And now they have changed the way you are allowed to use the streams.

Yes, and we all know and understand this. They are changing it due to greed and that is the problem.