HD154UI 3-Drive RAID0 Benchmarks

[Tesselator]

pretty jealous, 1.5TB hard drives over here cost about $205Aus ($168US) for a Green Power WD one.. it goes up for there, $400Aus for a 2TB model.

not happy jan!

You're down-under in the land of Oz? I could send them to you if you wanted. I want a flat $10 for lunch that day and I guess shipping would be about $30 to $40 or so all total (registered & insured). So if you're buying like 2 to 4 drives it would be well worth it I think.

 

[DoFoT9]

You're down-under in the land of Oz? I could send them to you if you wanted. I want a flat $10 for lunch that day and I guess shipping would be about $30 to $40 or so all total (registered & insured). So if you're buying like 2 to 4 drives it would be well worth it I think.

woo!!! ill start saving my pennies and expect an email when the 4TB hard drives come out in a year or so!!!! any saving is better then none!

 

[Tesselator]

woo!!! ill start saving my pennies and expect an email when the 4TB hard drives come out in a year or so!!!! any saving is better then none!

LOL! I probably won't wanna do it by then...

 

[DoFoT9]

LOL! I probably won't wanna do it by then...

BAHA damn im sure a $50 tip will change your mind

p.s. yea im in australia

 

[Tesselator]

Has there been any announcements or tech briefs on impending releases or development schedules concerning 4TB drives?

 

[DoFoT9]

Has there been any announcements or tech briefs on impending releases or development schedules concerning 4TB drives?

i did read a schedule type thing that 2011 will be the ideal date to release them... sound reasonable??

you better still be on here then *shakes fist* hahahaha

ill be out of uni by then so a nice 4x4tb backup thing would come in handy (and i will be able to afford it)

 

[Tesselator]

i did read a schedule type thing that 2011 will be the ideal date to release them... sound reasonable??

you better still be on here then *shakes fist* hahahaha

ill be out of uni by then so a nice 4x4tb backup thing would come in handy (and i will be able to afford it)

2011 huh? That's a long time to wait. They could do it next week if they wanted. I mean there were drives with 8 platers in them some years ago. Seek times would probably suck tho. Maybe with 8 and 16 core computers being so common now they'll reintroduce compression in a more meaningful way?

 

[DoFoT9]

2011 huh? That's a long time to wait. They could do it next week if they wanted. I mean there were drives with 8 platers in them some years ago. Seek times would probably suck tho. Maybe with 8 and 16 core computers being so common now they'll reintroduce compression in a more meaningful way?

i know it does seem like a long time to wait, the article was writtin about 2006 ish, but they predicited that 2TB would come out in 2009 and 1TB would be around in 2007/2008 so they were pretty accurate.

i think their reasoning was that the market "wasn't ready" for them yet, i know i am (just cant afford it yet haha).

 

[Tesselator]

Yeah, I know what you mean. There's lots and lots of tech that either never gets released or releases at a purposefully paced schedule. This schedule is sometimes a bit frustrating. Oddly enough many users/consumers are in denial that such is honestly the case and log such information right next to outlandish conspiracy theory.

I think this technology is very interesting:

http://www.physorg.com/news162138048.html
http://www.physorg.com/news162044616.html

Basically using color and polarization (think like how a 35mm camera filter works) to increase the number of layers that an otherwise standard DVD player/writer can access or "see". I guess that's why they're calling it a "Dimensional Compression" technique. Pretty cool anyway!


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[nanofrog]

Yeah, I know what you mean. There's lots and lots of tech that either never gets released or releases at a purposefully paced schedule. This schedule is sometimes a bit frustrating. Oddly enough many users/consumers are in denial that such is honestly the case and log such information right next to outlandish conspiracy theory.

Definitely. They want to milk technology for every cent possible first before moving to the next development.

I think this technology is very interesting:

http://www.physorg.com/news162138048.html
http://www.physorg.com/news162044616.html

Basically using color and polarization (think like how a 35mm camera filter works) to increase the number of layers that an otherwise standard DVD player/writer can access or "see". I guess that's why they're calling it a "Dimensional Compression" technique. Pretty cool anyway!


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Interesting indeed. Now will we ever see it hit the market, ....

 

[DoFoT9]

Yeah, I know what you mean. There's lots and lots of tech that either never gets released or releases at a purposefully paced schedule. This schedule is sometimes a bit frustrating. Oddly enough many users/consumers are in denial that such is honestly the case and log such information right next to outlandish conspiracy theory.

I think this technology is very interesting:

http://www.physorg.com/news162138048.html
http://www.physorg.com/news162044616.html

Basically using color and polarization (think like how a 35mm camera filter works) to increase the number of layers that an otherwise standard DVD player/writer can access or "see". I guess that's why they're calling it a "Dimensional Compression" technique. Pretty cool anyway!


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that is indeed quite cool! i love the argument that was going on down the bottom of the first link! funny stuff. the technology looks really interesting, i would like to learn more about it - however i dont think this will take on (funny how it fits in with what we were talking about eh?).. the companies putting heaps of money into BD and less into DVD won't like it one bit!!

Definitely. They want to milk technology for every cent possible first before moving to the next development.


Interesting indeed. Now will we ever see it hit the market, ....

well so we should!! i mean check out how much mechanical HDD's have come along since they were first developed like back in the 1950's, its such an old technology but its still being developed. imagine DVD's in 50 years time (if they dont give up on them). i guess the fact that its a disc read by one laser at a time is a limiting factor, but maybe they can fix it!?).

 

[Tesselator]

Definitely. They want to milk technology for every cent possible first before moving to the next development.

Well, yeah, but, some technologies are so far ahead they could easily skip a few generations on this or that. CPUs are one area like that. Memory is another.

Interesting indeed. Now will we ever see it hit the market, ....

Maybe. Samsung has their claws into it and GE has a working prototype. Usually when there's two companies with similar or parallel developments it ends up coming to market fairly soon. There are a few exceptions to this tho like holographic memory which BTW fathered this multi-dimensional DVD stuff - way back in the 80's.

that is indeed quite cool! i love the argument that was going on down the bottom of the first link! funny stuff. the technology looks really interesting, i would like to learn more about it - however i dont think this will take on (funny how it fits in with what we were talking about eh?).. the companies putting heaps of money into BD and less into DVD won't like it one bit!!

Hey! I'm not off-topic THAT often. I don't think BDs have a prayer of competing here tho. It's too locked up and it's intent was as a delivery format - primarily speaking. Unless they suddenly come up with a different (read cheap and stable) media fabrication process then it's doomed to an extremely slow saturation in the desktop world. My 2¢.

well so we should!! i mean check out how much mechanical HDD's have come along since they were first developed like back in the 1950's, its such an old technology but its still being developed. imagine DVD's in 50 years time (if they dont give up on them).

Hopefully by then if we're all still here that is, we'll be way past rotational storage formats!

 

[nanofrog]

well so we should!! i mean check out how much mechanical HDD's have come along since they were first developed like back in the 1950's, its such an old technology but its still being developed. imagine DVD's in 50 years time (if they dont give up on them). i guess the fact that its a disc read by one laser at a time is a limiting factor, but maybe they can fix it!?).

Well, Serial ATA replaced Parallel ATA for a reason. I'm more interested in non mechanical media arriving to the public. Optical (as in truly optical gate based circuits), sometimes referred to as quantum computers. Now that would be something amazing.

Well, yeah, but, some technologies are so far ahead they could easily skip a few generations on this or that. CPUs are one area like that. Memory is another.

Getting a board of directors to skip technology that's fully developed and seen as a profit generator, is worse than pulling teeth from a non sedated phirrana.

Maybe. Samsung has their claws into it and GE has a working prototype. Usually when there's two companies with similar or parallel developments it ends up coming to market fairly soon. There are a few exceptions to this tho like holographic memory which BTW fathered this multi-dimensional DVD stuff - way back in the 80's.

Hopefully, it will show. Multi partner developments do have a habit of showing up.

Hopefully by then if we're all still here that is, we'll be way past rotational storage formats!

Mechanical media in 50 years... I sure hope not.

 

[DoFoT9]

Hey! I'm not off-topic THAT often. I don't think BDs have a prayer of competing here tho. It's too locked up and it's intent was as a delivery format - primarily speaking. Unless they suddenly come up with a different (read cheap and stable) media fabrication process then it's doomed to an extremely slow saturation in the desktop world. My 2¢.

your off topic now, so clearly its more often then you think HA.

good point about BD being for delivery (by that you mean like media and whatnot i take it?) its hardly a good storage system (too slow!), when the larger discs come out it will hardly be worth it in costs.

Hopefully by then if we're all still here that is, we'll be way past rotational storage formats!

ill be 69 in 50 years, technology better be good by then!!! otherwise ill have to committ.

Well, Serial ATA replaced Parallel ATA for a reason. I'm more interested in non mechanical media arriving to the public. Optical (as in truly optical gate based circuits), sometimes referred to as quantum computers. Now that would be something amazing.

good point, but its still using the same underlying technology i guess so its 'basically' the same.

what was the technology that replace PATA?? serial??... i dont remember what it was called thats how young i am haha!

care to explain this Optical technology? how does it store such a digit?

 

[nanofrog]

ill be 69 in 50 years, technology better be good by then!!! otherwise ill have to committ.

Older than that for me.

what was the technology that replace PATA?? serial??... i dont remember what it was called thats how young i am haha!

SATA.

S = Serial, where data is streamed (one bit after another), rather than fed in parallel blocks (all bits at location 0 to n at the same time).

care to explain this Optical technology? how does it store such a digit?

CNOT is the gate type, and then you configure them into circuits. Just as you do current transistor circuits.

 

[DoFoT9]

Older than that for me.

naww dont worry you will be young at heart.

SATA.

S = Serial, where data is streamed (one bit after another), rather than fed in parallel blocks (all bits at location 0 to n at the same time).

no no the other way, the one before PATA....

CNOT is the gate type, and then you configure them into circuits. Just as you do current transistor circuits.

schweet ill give it a read after dinner!! im familiar with current circuits (the basic ones anyway) - had to do them for an assignment ALU's = argh

 

[Tesselator]

• How HDDs currently work:
  http://www.research.ibm.com/research/gmr.html
  
  
  
• An explanation of quantum photonics is rather involved but basically it's the approximation and interaction (interferometry) of photons from single-photon sources of/by single-photon detection. The miniaturization of logic is possible through "wave-guide" quantum circuits which is basically a way to direct photons and photon streams down a particular "path" on silicon fabrications - umm, like chips now - kinda - but with photons.
  
  http://arxiv.org/pdf/0705.4193v1
  More: http://www.physorg.com/tags/quantum+computing/
  
  Storage for such systems could take any form really - including all current ones but I bet Nanofroggy is talking about holographic based memory systems HDSS or other which typically works via miniature laser arrays reading and writing in 3D to some kind of polymer or something. Maybe HVD (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3641) or maybe HVC?
  
  General: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_memory

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[DoFoT9]

that has got to be the most links i have seen on any reply!!

i am in for some reading! too bad i have exams argh! thanks for that ill blame you for that lol kidding!

i love learning keep them coming!

 

[Tesselator]

Hehehe. Here's like the best beginners guide to understanding QC that I've seen: http://www.quantiki.org/wiki/index.php/What_is_Quantum_Computation? It used to be hosted at www.qubit.org or .net (another good learning resource) I think but looking for it brought me to a wiki of the same. Whatever... it works.

 

[DoFoT9]

oh so im a beginner now aye??

thanks heaps!! got 11 new links to read up on + the old links you gave about 2 pages back on HD's and whatnot. HA

its all relevant to what i wanna do so its worth it!

 

[Tesselator]

oh so im a beginner now aye??

Hehehehe, a quantum n00b! A q-n00b or qunoob... as in a resident of qunoobia in the g33k sector of the expanding cereb galaxy.

 

[DoFoT9]

Hehehehe, a quantum n00b! A q-n00b or qunoob... as in a resident of qunoobia in the g33k sector of the expanding cereb galaxy.

ok NOW your really going OT!!!!

i quite like quN00b, maybe QNuB? QNublet? maybes?

i have touched on quantum computer-y. all i know is that there is your 1 and 0 type data, then the 'unknown' data that can be any number of states but it isnt known, because once you look at it then it could change again (that is the part that confuses me but also makes sense - what is the use of looking at something that isnt for sure?)..

 

[Dr.Pants]

i quite like quN00b, maybe QNuB? QNublet? maybes?

Fortunatly for you, although we a pretty sure an anti-qn00b exists (as given by supersymmetry theory), we have yet to discover it. Besides the Higgs Boson, its the reason we built the Large Hadron Collider.

i have touched on quantum computer-y. all i know is that there is your 1 and 0 type data, then the 'unknown' data that can be any number of states but it isnt known, because once you look at it then it could change again (that is the part that confuses me but also makes sense - what is the use of looking at something that isnt for sure?)..

Its all about the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. When computing with particles if that size, the CNOT gate is essential, to find a number with a relative degree of accuracy. Basically, every particle has a position and a velocity. Measuring the position is no problem - we just lose the information on velocity. We can measure the velocity accurately - we just lose the information on position; this is the downside of my major. Fortunately, that's why I'm going to have access to supercomputers for modeling. Should prevent me from going crazy like you people. (big j/k)

 

[Tesselator]

looking at something that isnt for sure?...

Should prevent me from going crazy like you people. (big j/k)

Beware of smiley entanglements and shun the furious bandersnatch!

 

[DoFoT9]

Fortunatly for you, although we a pretty sure an anti-qn00b exists (as given by supersymmetry theory), we have yet to discover it. Besides the Higgs Boson, its the reason we built the Large Hadron Collider.



Its all about the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. When computing with particles if that size, the CNOT gate is essential, to find a number with a relative degree of accuracy. Basically, every particle has a position and a velocity. Measuring the position is no problem - we just lose the information on velocity. We can measure the velocity accurately - we just lose the information on position; this is the downside of my major. Fortunately, that's why I'm going to have access to supercomputers for modeling. Should prevent me from going crazy like you people. (big j/k)

wow.. i think my mind just exploded. wouldnt be hard to track those particles though (basically because there are none! )

thanks for the short description!