"Hello Again" BS

newtonapp

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I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!
 
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Decimotox

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I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!
Newer and newer features come out with every release and the prices stay nearly identical to the previous generations. If you don't like it, don't buy it lol. We all know the computers are worth it. It's unfortunate that they've slowed on their updates, but computers are lasting longer and longer these days.
 

newtonapp

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Newer and newer features come out with every release and the prices stay nearly identical to the previous generations. If you don't like it, don't buy it lol. We all know the computers are worth it. It's unfortunate that they've slowed on their updates, but computers are lasting longer and longer these days.
The "you don't like it, don't buy it" thing is a lame excuse. Customers should be able to state why they suck and not live in a vacuum.
 

Foss

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The "you don't like it, don't buy it" thing is a lame excuse. Customers should be able to state why they suck and not live in a vacuum.
I don't understand how paying a premium has anything to do with future versions of a product. You buy a laptop for money that you believe it to be worth, not what future versions may or may not be. If you're wanting to refresh your laptop more frequently than Apple does, then buy a brand that does so. All the other laptop brands have always refreshed much more frequently than Apple. Granted Apple's cycle as been slower than usual, there hasn't been huge jumps in CPU's either. It's expected the new 2016 will be a little faster than the 2015, probably around 10%. If you want to spend 1-2k every year for 10% gains, more power to you. Most people including myself refresh laptops around the 4 year mark. I'll be going from the first rMBP in 2012 to the new 2016.
 

T5BRICK

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Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.
You're entitled to a new laptop sooner because Apple charges a premium? Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds?

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!
And that's part of the problem. Some people are throwing a fit about how long it has taken Apple to upgrade the rMBP, but yet many will happily give Apple their money. If you're unhappy, vote with your wallet.
 

Savor

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It's "hello again" after five years. More like "do you remember we sell Macs too?" I just find it funny that when phones get updated every year, people complain. When computers don't get updated as frequently, people still complain.

To me, Apple computers are the only thing worth buying from them that can last at least 3x longer than iOS devices while most MacBooks are not worth twice more than iPhones. You are getting years and years of usage with Macs while an iPhone 6/6 Plus can be considered disposable or ancient in mobile standards.
 
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ljjycss

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I think they keep most parts (shell, cooling system, screen, etc) untouched for cost reason. Designing a brand new product actually costs a lot, by keeping the same design you can spread design cost thin. I don't know how long is normal for electronics, but you don't see GM or Ford rolling out major overhaul of their vehicles every year. This way companies can keep cost and price within reasonable range.
 

New_Mac_Smell

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They updated the MBP with the Retina release in 2012? Which is 4 years ago. Where's this 5 years coming from? That update was also 4 years after the previous was released.

Seems pretty standard, did you want a completely new design every 6 months or something, would you buy that? Maybe try Lenovo or something if that's what you're after.
 
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SparkFlash

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I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!
Upgrades should be included? Come on now.
 

Nautilus007

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I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!
I agree with you, just last week there's rumors about the 2018 MacBook pros keyboard having e-ink I know this thing will be sweet but I'm sure it'll leave out some basic basic upgrades. I really hope they don't eliminate the glowing apple.
 
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vpro

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"Hello Again" is just that, they had a Sept event for the phone and now they are saying "Hello Again", just like a friend who visited you last month but you had no idea when you'd see her again, then she emails you to say she'll be in town next month "hello again".

Or it could mean Hello Again from the grave of the 17" MacBook Pro, duh!
 

Zeov

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I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!

How can you already make up your mind you're going to buy it? this screams fanboy to me.
 
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jclardy

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5 years is some generous rounding, considering it is 2016 and the rMBP came out in 2012. Also, did we forget that the original MBP was the same design as the Powerbook G4, which came out in 2003 and wasn't replaced until 2008 with the Unibody, which lasted till 2012. 5 years and 4 years...strange that the cycle continues. I think people are just more impatient now with the advent of the iPhone and updates every 2 years.
 

DNichter

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I am happy they are finally coming out with a new machine, but I think "hello again" is a bit lofty of a tagline considering what the rumors are. Unless they surprise us with a shift to ARM or some hybrid OS, or a new form factor altogether, I am afraid this keynote will be underwhelming.
 

maflynn

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, but I think "hello again" is a bit lofty of a tagline
you know, I actually thought it was going to be more of an iMac sort of focus, given the history, but now rumors are swirling that we'll not see any updates to the iMac, I'm not sure what it will be
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Bending Pixels

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I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!
Do you feel better now?
 

TechZeke

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I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!
Pretty much killed your rant with this statement. Apple is simply practicing capitalism. If you're still going to throw your money at Apple regardless, then you can't complain since Apple is a private company out to make money. What incentive do they have if they know your money is guaranteed?
 

vpro

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It's just a computer. Don't buy it. Easy. Turn it off. Get outside. Find a hobby. Meet someone.

I love it "find a hobby" !!! Riot !!! It's important to remember these things are "things", mere "gadgets". If they were made by hand buy a few crafts people like a high end guitar or violin, then maybe I'll stay home with it more often but as it is, just a sheet of metal and glass. Good to stay calm and not get to involved with "things". Get more involved in "life" and such... Like "friends".

((Sigh)) All my friends say in while I'm always running around spontaneous with no one to share it with because everyone would rather "snap" each other than hang out, like outdoors out.
 
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