"Hello Again" BS

[flyinmac]

The main issue I see, is that Apple is still charging the same price as it did in 2013 for a machine which hasn't changed or improved its specs even slightly by what is now almost the end of 2016.

If they either decreased their prices, or incrementally increased their specifications over the years, then it would seem more reasonable.

 

[Steve121178]

I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!

So vote with your wallet and don't buy or stop moaning.

 

[8692574]

iPhone 6/6 Plus can be considered disposable or ancient in mobile standards.

My iPhone 6 begs to differ 😀 still going very strong.

iPhone 6/6 Plus can be considered disposable or ancient in "young kids that must have the latest " standards.
You do not need to upgrade every year, just like with computer, what you bought a year ago still does what it did back then and even a little more.

Do I need an iPhone 7? No, do I want it? YES, will I buy it? No because I am not a young kids that must have the latest anymore 😀

 

[gngan]

I am actually glad Apple didn't change their Mac line for a long time because I cannot avoid the temptation of upgrading every new release!

 

[RiverOak]

You expect them to release a new model quicker just because you paid premium for your current model? Makes no sense to me.

If anything manufacturers of premium/professional products tend to update less frequently than those who make cheap consumer products.

 

[maflynn]

I am actually glad Apple didn't change their Mac line for a long time because I cannot avoid the temptation of upgrading every new release!

Your sentiments have been echo by many, many others, hence the rather dramatic decrease in sales these past two (three?) quarters.

 

[Barrierfreeman]

So vote with your wallet and don't buy or stop moaning.

Can't we do both?

 

[Steve121178]

Can't we do both?

Why would you buy something you are not happy with? That just makes no sense at all.

 

[Barrierfreeman]

Why would you buy something you are not happy with? That just makes no sense at all.

Both = Vote with wallet and moan.

 

[Appleaker]

I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!

There is an upgrade cycle for redesigns, it isn't schedules every year. It's every 4 years for the MacBook Pro.
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you know, I actually thought it was going to be more of an iMac sort of focus, given the history, but now rumors are swirling that we'll not see any updates to the iMac, I'm not sure what it will be
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Yeah that would make sense. But both the Macintosh and iMac were game changers so maybe it's indicating that the MacBook Pro is as well? Or maybe all products at the event in general.

 

[maflynn]

But both the Macintosh and iMac were game changers so maybe it's indicating that the MacBook Pro is as well? Or maybe all products at the event in general.

I would hope, though if apple only adds that "magic bar" to the MBP, and include a Skylake processor, I'd not say its a game changer.

 

[Appleaker]

"Hello Again" is just that, they had a Sept event for the phone and now they are saying "Hello Again", just like a friend who visited you last month but you had no idea when you'd see her again, then she emails you to say she'll be in town next month "hello again".

Or it could mean Hello Again from the grave of the 17" MacBook Pro, duh!

It's actually more of a reference to the Macintosh and iMac introductions, as this video shows:

 

[bruinsrme]

I just wasted 2 mins of my life reading this thread.

Even more by replying to it.

 

[geoff5093]

You expect them to release a new model quicker just because you paid premium for your current model? Makes no sense to me.

If anything manufacturers of premium/professional products tend to update less frequently than those who make cheap consumer products.

No, the OP is saying they shouldn't increase the price. Upgrades should be included in the base price. For example, $1399 a few years ago should remain at $1399 today and have higher specs, not charge more because it's an upgrade.

 

[Appleaker]

No, the OP is saying they shouldn't increase the price. Upgrades should be included in the base price. For example, $1399 a few years ago should remain at $1399 today and have higher specs, not charge more because it's an upgrade.

The price decreases as the upgrades are made. For example the entry level 13" rMBP was introduced at $1699 and that was reduced to $1299 as the specs improved.

The price is always higher for a redesign, maybe because most people will buy it because of the new design, regardless of the few hundred dollars extra. But it is also likely due to the work and resources that went into producing the new design. It is a lot of work, as everything internally has to be redesigned and then put through thousands of tests.

 

[Freida]

"Hello Again" is just that, they had a Sept event for the phone and now they are saying "Hello Again", just like a friend who visited you last month but you had no idea when you'd see her again, then she emails you to say she'll be in town next month "hello again".

Or it could mean Hello Again from the grave of the 17" MacBook Pro, duh!

I actually don't think they are referring to September event here. My theory is that the "hello again" means the reference to the fact that their mac events (especially the first one) was with mac writing "hello" and for that reason they are using "hello again" to tell us that this is about mac and mac only. That is my interpretation.

 

[Samuelsan2001]

I actually don't think they are referring to September event here. My theory is that the "hello again" means the reference to the fact that their mac events (especially the first one) was with mac writing "hello" and for that reason they are using "hello again" to tell us that this is about mac and mac only. That is my interpretation.

And it's one of many that mean nothing, it's just an invitation to an event showcasing new products nothing else, no hidden meaning no hints or clues, just an invite to a media event.

 

[Freida]

And it's one of many that mean nothing, it's just an invitation to an event showcasing new products nothing else, no hidden meaning no hints or clues, just an invite to a media event.

There is ALWAYS hidden meaning. Apple loves that teasing and always hints

 

[psingh01]

"Hello Again" is just that, they had a Sept event for the phone and now they are saying "Hello Again", just like a friend who visited you last month but you had no idea when you'd see her again, then she emails you to say she'll be in town next month "hello again".

Or it could mean Hello Again from the grave of the 17" MacBook Pro, duh!

They used hello again for the original imac. They should come up with something new.

 

[myscrnnm]

I don't understand how paying a premium has anything to do with future versions of a product. You buy a laptop for money that you believe it to be worth, not what future versions may or may not be. If you're wanting to refresh your laptop more frequently than Apple does, then buy a brand that does so. All the other laptop brands have always refreshed much more frequently than Apple. Granted Apple's cycle as been slower than usual, there hasn't been huge jumps in CPU's either. It's expected the new 2016 will be a little faster than the 2015, probably around 10%. If you want to spend 1-2k every year for 10% gains, more power to you. Most people including myself refresh laptops around the 4 year mark. I'll be going from the first rMBP in 2012 to the new 2016.

Not to mention it sounds counter-intuitive to want frequent updates when you're paying a premium for a product now. When I pay a premium (at least for an electronic device), I expect to be able to use that device for a long time without the anxiety of it becoming obsolete. Why would I desire a want or need to replace something I just dropped a large sum of money on?

There really haven't been any revolutionary advancements in the field of notebook computers in the last few years, so why should Apple waste resources that can be spent elsewhere?

 

[gngan]

Most pro/premium product has longer life cycle than consumer product. For example, Canon's Pro camera (1D, 5D) has a life cycle of 3-5 years while consumer grade product (XXD, XXXD) refreshes every year. Not that I think MBP is a pro model but maybe that's what Apple thinks.

 

[inhalexhale1]

"Hello Again" is just that, they had a Sept event for the phone and now they are saying "Hello Again", just like a friend who visited you last month but you had no idea when you'd see her again, then she emails you to say she'll be in town next month "hello again".

Or it could mean Hello Again from the grave of the 17" MacBook Pro, duh!

That Apple did have a Halloween look. Zombie 17"?

 

[flyinmac]

Not to mention it sounds counter-intuitive to want frequent updates when you're paying a premium for a product now. When I pay a premium (at least for an electronic device), I expect to be able to use that device for a long time without the anxiety of it becoming obsolete. Why would I desire a want or need to replace something I just dropped a large sum of money on?

There really haven't been any revolutionary advancements in the field of notebook computers in the last few years, so why should Apple waste resources that can be spent elsewhere?

The problem comes up when someone needs a new machine. But doesn't want to pay 2016 top of the line price for 2012 and 2013 technology.

One should also consider that since Apple doesn't decrease prices as their stagnant designs / configurations age, and likewise don't increase the specs over the 3 year stagnation period, that a person who doesn't follow the rumor sites ends up paying full 2016 price for that 2013 machine today. And then 2 days from now Apple finally makes a huge improvement (hopefully), and that buyer has just purchased a machine at a premium price that has immediately become discontinued 2 days later.

The above reasons are why it would be better for the consumers if Apple would incrementally update their machines specs every few months. Even minor bumps, until the next major redesign.

At least that way today's buyer isn't 3 years behind the buyer who pays the same price 2 days from now.

 

[SDAVE]

I can't wait for the release next week where Apple's marketing tells us, "you've waited long enough" and we have to listen to Jony talk about how they used water jets to make some Aluminium [British accent] thing.

Fact is, we pay a premium for your products and it took 5 years to see anything substantial. Upgrades should be included in your price.

I am still going to buy the updated MacBook Pro, but I still don't like it!

I think 3-4 years for a redesign in the mobile device market is pretty fair, considering that parts become smaller in those years.

We're at 14nm for processors with Kaby Lake, so it's a good time to upgrade.

Apple doesn't need to reinvent the wheel, they're an iterative company.

My 2014 rMBP is the same design as the 2013 and it's still beautiful and works great.

The biggest problem I see is with the Mac Pro, but that's another story.

Also anyone wanting to purchase a 2015 laptop with 2016 prices, I recommend getting a refurb or finding a sale somewhere. I purchased a new 2014 rMBP ($2299 device) for $1800 when the 2015 came out last year.

 

[Barrierfreeman]

I'd have preferred it if they had just been honest.

So rather than 'Hello again', maybe go with '****! We Forgot!'