Yes, agreed. The green drum in the toner cart will have a single mark on it which is creating that small recurring splodge down the page.
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Yes, agreed. The green drum in the toner cart will have a single mark on it which is creating that small recurring splodge down the page.
When I cleanned the toner drum I didn't see any mark at all.
Someone else, earlier in this thread said he measured the marks and said it might be the top roller that I will have to disassemble to get to in order to clean it. Maybe I should wait for the new cart to see if it fixes it rather than take it all apart. Besides those smudges it's printing beautifully.
Yup, that was me - with thanks to tdiaz for the DecLaser service manual for the same engine.
The marks point to it being the drum in the toner cart (if my estimate of 95mm was correct) - that is, the big green roller. So yes, I'm pretty sure a different cart will eliminate the recurring splodge.
Yup, that was me - with thanks to tdiaz for the DecLaser service manual for the same engine.
The marks point to it being the drum in the toner cart (if my estimate of 95mm was correct) - that is, the big green roller. So yes, I'm pretty sure a different cart will eliminate the recurring splodge.
Well, now we wait. No cart in today's mail and no mail tomorrow so maybe Friday.
Will post pics as soon as I test it
From memory, I that is an indication of a drum issue but also appeared frequently with remanufactured cartridges. It would sometimes go away after breaking in the cartridge with about 50 prints or so but once you see that, it will likely reappear. I would clean the entire drum with alcohol, then burn it in with 50 prints of a 50% halftone screen. Isn't there a wire also that needs to be cleaned? If memory serves, you slide a lever or can take a q-tip swabbed in alcohol. Also really make sure the toner is not clumped inside by dessicating and then rocking cartridge front to back, not side to side.
I have had intermittent luck with this cart. Sometimes it'll print 20 or more pages just fine without the bands on the side (but it always has those center smudges) and like last night all it would do was print entire pages of that banding, I mean the whole page was covered in it. I tried cleaning the toner cart drum twice and both times I had good luck for a few pages. I tried cleaning that little roller that can be removed and it sometimes clears it up but as always those center smudges.
I have also shaken the cart several times, rocking it back and forth. I'm thinking it's an old cart someone refilled and sold as new. What can I expect for $9.00?
I am hoping I get the $85 cart tomorrow or Tuesday and can post before and after pictures.
As for cleaning a wire, I have the service manual but I don't want to take it apart till I replace the cart and see what happens. If I have the same results then I have several pages marked in the service manual on where to start troubleshooting. Let's hope it's just a cart as this thing has so few pages printed on it, only like 2450 or so. I mean it looks immaculate too.
Still the old cart.
New one should be here this week, but I need advice.
Check out this photo today.
They were printed with the same cart.
The light side is after I cleaned the small removable roller and cleaned it with alcohol.
How in the world does it get so covered in toner? Is it because it's a bad cartridge?
Thanks.![]()
New one should be here this week, but I need advice.
Check out this photo today.
They were printed with the same cart.
The light side is after I cleaned the small removable roller and cleaned it with alcohol.
How in the world does it get so covered in toner? Is it because it's a bad cartridge?
Thanks.
It works!!!
HOORAY!!!
I got the new cart today, it is a REAL Apple cart, an original still in the foil bag! I didn't know they would stay so long.
Anyway, here's the photos of the new cart's printouts.
Hooray!
That's a pretty good looking print.
The old cart probably has a bad wiper or a charge problem with the drum.
That's a pretty good looking print.
The old cart probably has a bad wiper or a charge problem with the drum.
Hooray!
That's a pretty good looking print.
The old cart probably has a bad wiper or a charge problem with the drum.
Thanks for ALL of you guys' help, I really appreciate it and have learned a LOT!
I am very pleased with it now. Didn't know there were even some original Apple carts around, NOR did I think they would work IF they were! Do toner carts really last that long?
Thanks tdiaz. I didn't even know they had a date stamped into them.
Now my wife's HP LaserJet 1020 is having problems. I got the service manual, took it apart, real easy to do, and think it's a bad fuser so I have one on order.
Coffee almost came out my nose!
I won't fear a printer if I have the service manual. The 1020 is extremely easy to take apart, I was astonished how few parts there are in it.Thanks for all your help. I may need help later?
Wish I had seen your post earlier. After owning several Apple LaserWriters including a 360 (which I still use) I could have told you the wiper blade that cleans the drum was the problem. So if anyone else just wants the readers digest version of a fix for this problem, buy a new toner, or get a replacement wiper for the one you have.
Yes, but I learned something along the way. So, in order to learn even more, please tell me how you replace a wiper? Isn't it in the toner cart? I'm curious.
Thanks.
Paul
Ya its a small plastic blade that cleans the toner off the drum as it rotates. They'll dry out or just warp with age and thats what gives you that gray mark on the page. Most likely, you're better off getting a new cartridge than trying to track down just a wiper. The local toner/ink refill places near me said they "could" order them, but wouldn't because they'd have to get a bulk supply that they could never sell. I found it was more cost effective to replace the whole toner. I would buy remanufactured before new old stock though. I got a couple NOS cartridges in Apple boxes that had the same problems as what you had.
Thanks, so it's all really a toss up when you order one then, it seems. You never know what you'll get. And if I spend $89 for a "newa" one I might get a dud and I don't think they can be returned.
Damn it. Well, delving into a toner cartridge is NOT for the faint hearted. I hate doing it, but then, I've rarely decided to do it.
Below is a link to a PDF that will give you SOME idea of what you'll be in-for. Where you'll get the parts from (if required) is another problem.
It cold well be the age of the cart, or a problem that will return to a full dark page eventually. I would take a guess that if the problem area STAYS that width, it's the cart. If it begins to cover the whole page, it could still be the printer.
If you DO decide to pull the cart apart, practice on the old one.
http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/11)_St...Manuals/Remanufacturing_Instr_%AE_%5B1%5D.pdf
Thanks MacTech, I'll look at that site tomorrow. I tthink it's the cart because today I printed a bunch of pages and the band on the left would get smaller over time. Now when I print it's only 1/4" wide. As for delving into a cart well, using the old one is a good idea to practice on but I better do it outside with all that toner and all right? I will see how difficult it is then decide if I really want to mess with it. I'm just printing out miscelaneous stuff on it anyway so it's no biggy to me.
Yup. Messy, messy, messy. Perishable foam seals, two "blades", new toner and waste toner, possibly springs, gears and just a whole lot of anxiety - but I'm biased.
Yup. Messy, messy, messy. Perishable foam seals, two "blades", new toner and waste toner, possibly springs, gears and just a whole lot of anxiety - but I'm biased.
Downloaded and saved it but what a messy job that would be even IF I could find parts. I'd have to do it all the time to get good at it.
Yikes, this looks to be a lot of work and it has to be precise too.
...and avoid the bait. Don't use a conventional old vacuum cleaner to suck up the resulting mess.
That, "I don't want to get -that- all over the 'new' vacuum'.. trap.
Older vacuums, those with metal hoses/inlets, and lame filtering within can actually be quite comical with dealing with toner, on dry day.
If you want to see a vacuum cleaner shoot fire out the exhaust, make lightning to the next nearest metal object, or to the nearest path to ground, and possibly even just outright internal combustion.
In the era before youtube and handy cameras everywhere .. we used to do this on purpose, in a controlled environment.
The stuff is so fine it will find it's way right through a typical old school bag, filter, etc. Combined with it's designed property to hold a charge, you get the possibility of clouds of toner just going "poof!" in a flash, cause sparks, and making the fun game of feet, carpet and doorknobs look like nothing.
A modern HEPA filter based system is a bit better to deal with it.
That, "I don't want to get -that- all over the 'new' vacuum'.. trap.
Older vacuums, those with metal hoses/inlets, and lame filtering within can actually be quite comical with dealing with toner, on dry day.
If you want to see a vacuum cleaner shoot fire out the exhaust, make lightning to the next nearest metal object, or to the nearest path to ground, and possibly even just outright internal combustion.
In the era before youtube and handy cameras everywhere .. we used to do this on purpose, in a controlled environment.
The stuff is so fine it will find it's way right through a typical old school bag, filter, etc. Combined with it's designed property to hold a charge, you get the possibility of clouds of toner just going "poof!" in a flash, cause sparks, and making the fun game of feet, carpet and doorknobs look like nothing.
A modern HEPA filter based system is a bit better to deal with it.
...and avoid the bait. Don't use a conventional old vacuum cleaner to suck up the resulting mess.
That, "I don't want to get -that- all over the 'new' vacuum'.. trap.
Older vacuums, those with metal hoses/inlets, and lame filtering within can actually be quite comical with dealing with toner, on dry day.
If you want to see a vacuum cleaner shoot fire out the exhaust, make lightning to the next nearest metal object, or to the nearest path to ground, and possibly even just outright internal combustion.
In the era before youtube and handy cameras everywhere .. we used to do this on purpose, in a controlled environment.
The stuff is so fine it will find it's way right through a typical old school bag, filter, etc. Combined with it's designed property to hold a charge, you get the possibility of clouds of toner just going "poof!" in a flash, cause sparks, and making the fun game of feet, carpet and doorknobs look like nothing.
A modern HEPA filter based system is a bit better to deal with it.
Yup, I've decided it's just not worth it. If I had parts, a shop, and the right tools then maybe.
Meanwhile, what do you make of this?
My wife's HP 1020, I took it apart and couldn't find anything obvious, have the service manual, and this print is after a brand new cart. It's very rough, like tire tracks. Both doing the same thing. I ordered a fuser.
