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Especially as John Hodgeman/David Mitchell are infinitely more likeable characters...

I like how there are still people who think you cant type well/quickly on an iPhone :) They remind me of the people who think files created on macs are incompatible with PCs and how macs don't have 2 button mice :D
 
I like how there are still people who think you cant type well/quickly on an iPhone :) They remind me of the people who think files created on macs are incompatible with PCs and how macs don't have 2 button mice :D

Out of curiosity, which Blackberry did you have before you switched to the iPhone, and for how long did you have it?
 
I had a Sony Ericsson m600i and an HTC TyTN.

The m600i had the closest matching keyboard to a Blackberry pearl. I have experience of smartphones with full qwerty keypads.

I had the m600i for 6 months and the TyTN for a year. I know they aren't Blackberries, but are comparable in the way they can be typed on.

Once I had my iPhone for 5 days, I was typing at a speed probably faster than I could on the m600i and almost as fast as the TyTN.

I wasn't taking a dig at the Blackberry keyboard, just was saying that its quite funny how people assume you can't use your thumbs to type on an iPhone...
 
I wasn't taking a dig at the Blackberry keyboard, just was saying that its quite funny how people assume you can't use your thumbs to type on an iPhone...

Point taken, but I do think it's ironic that it's crass to make inferences about how Macs compared to PCs without actually having used a Mac, but it's acceptable to make inferences about how BBs compare to iPhones without having really used both!

(I did switch from a BB to an iPhone, and I am very happy with my iPhone, but I think it's ridiculous to say that the iPhone does every single thing better than the BB. On the balance, it makes me happier, but I really enjoyed my Blackberry.)
 
It's funny; just this past Saturday, my cousin and had a race to look something up on Wikipedia at the same time. He used his Blackberry, and I used my iPod touch. He was still scrolling through the home page on his so-called browser looking for the search field while I used Safari to get to the info right quick, just as if I were sitting at a computer.

The sad thing is that a lot of people (like him) are issued a Blackberry by their employers, so they can't just dump it and get an iPhone instead. They could get one for personal use, of course, but it doesn't make sense to have two devices, really.

Nobody I know who owns a Blackberry bought it for themselves. They all have it because of work. I still don't think a lot of people think of it as a "personal" device that they would readily choose for themselves.
 
I'd love to see the iPhone guy hunting and pecking out emails one character at a time while the BlackBerry guy bangs out emails with two thumbs blazing.

I'd love to see the iPhone guy pull out an iPhone with a broken screen from his pocket while the BlackBerry guy pulls out a BlackBerry from a holster.

Sure, the iPhone has a better music player and a better web browser, but the BlackBerry still beats it in core business functionality. For fun, get an iPhone. For business email, get a BlackBerry.

How about an iPhone guy, listening to music while typing an email. A call comes in, the music fades and pauses, he accepts the call and simply talks while enjoying fantastic call clarity through the earbuds. Then he ends the call, the music fades back in he resumes typing his email.
 
nope.

I think if they did make these ads, I would love it but it would probably hurt their market share... aren't the Mac vs. PC ads all saying how PC is no fun and Mac is so young and fresh? That's not good if they're trying to market to enterprises
 
Point taken, but I do think it's ironic that it's crass to make inferences about how Macs compared to PCs without actually having used a Mac, but it's acceptable to make inferences about how BBs compare to iPhones without having really used both!

(I did switch from a BB to an iPhone, and I am very happy with my iPhone, but I think it's ridiculous to say that the iPhone does every single thing better than the BB. On the balance, it makes me happier, but I really enjoyed my Blackberry.)

I have a BB for work and an iPhone for myself. I hate the BB. I hate the scroll wheel and how it takes so long to get to the end (or back to the top) of any list. I hate the tiny screen. I hate having to contort my thumbs to type numbers. I hate having to use keys and the wheel to navigate a document. I hate that it doesn't have spell check.

I love the BB's push email and corporate directory look-up. iPhone is about to get that. Here's hoping that my company sees the light and supports iPhones!!
 
I think if they did make these ads, I would love it but it would probably hurt their market share... aren't the Mac vs. PC ads all saying how PC is no fun and Mac is so young and fresh? That's not good if they're trying to market to enterprises

I think that they can show the "serious" side of 2.0, but also highlight how useful the "fun" stuff is, like GPS with Google maps, and the weather and stock widgets. I use Google maps all the time on business trips - just last week it help a NY Yellow Cab find my destination when the cabbie couldn't.
 
I think that they can show the "serious" side of 2.0, but also highlight how useful the "fun" stuff is, like GPS with Google maps, and the weather and stock widgets. I use Google maps all the time on business trips - just last week it help a NY Yellow Cab find my destination when the cabbie couldn't.

yeah I don't doubt for a second that Apple could pull this off, but it'd definitely have to be really different than the Mac vs. PC commercials
 
I personally wouldn't like to see that, in the same way I don't much like the Mac vs PC ads.....a product should be able to sell itself on its own merits and not belittle another product to make itself look better....I guess this is why other brands are not allowed to be mentioned in adverts here in the UK, I happen to think that is the right way for it to be done.

Although I like the Mac vs PC ads, I agree with you that a product should be able to sell itself without having to belittle another product. Unfortunately here in America, we have thrown all our morals out the window. The tactic of belittling others not only sells our products, but also runs our politics. Profits over people is how we roll in the States now.
 
I think if they did make these ads, I would love it but it would probably hurt their market share... aren't the Mac vs. PC ads all saying how PC is no fun and Mac is so young and fresh? That's not good if they're trying to market to enterprises

No...well..yes...

See, alot of you guys may not have seen the Japanese Ad's (yes its the same 'idea').

Way back in the day (a few years ago) Apple set out to clear up the misconceptions of a "mac" that would make people scared too switch including
- Absolutely no functionality (such as office support)
- Better counterparts (iMovie > Windows Movie Maker, iTunes > WMP etc)
and whatever else I couldn't think of.

Eventually they got bored of clearing up the misconceptions and decided to point out true petpeeves of their operating systems while bolstering their own; difficult to pull off, but they seem to do it correctly.
AFAIK, Apple hasn't been slapped on the wrist for lying *yet*. Some of their ads, i'll admit, are dubious and misleading, but the most they have probably done in this department is comment about a flaw in a competitors os while having a similar quirk of their own (in a few cases).

As far as enterprise customers go, things like that are talked about EXTENSIVELY at events like WWDC and the like. Regular joe users like Grandma and Bubba joe (sorry bubba joes out there) are not going to troll MacRumors and check out MacLife at the bookstore, so they (apple) must find a way to communicate with these customers (via commercials).

Apple is not regarded as a 'young and fresh' technology company, atleast not at my firm. Apple is synonymous with reliability and usability, which are critical in any environment. Sure, their consumer products are well known and highly marketed, especially in the 'teenybopper' circuit, but Macbook pro's, Mac Pro's xserves and the pro creative apps are used in *mission critical* environments where lost time = lost money.
 
I'd love to see the iPhone guy hunting and pecking out emails one character at a time while the BlackBerry guy bangs out emails with two thumbs blazing.

I'd love to see the iPhone guy pull out an iPhone with a broken screen from his pocket while the BlackBerry guy pulls out a BlackBerry from a holster.

Sure, the iPhone has a better music player and a better web browser, but the BlackBerry still beats it in core business functionality. For fun, get an iPhone. For business email, get a BlackBerry.

bingo. I'd add windows mobile to that as well.
 
Personal opinions on a product is one thing, but for a company to blatantly ridicule a product to further their sales is another........

Disallowing that is...

guess what...

VIOLATING FREE SPEECH!:rolleyes:

Just because you don't want to hear it doesn't mean someone else shouldn't have the right to say it.
 
Disallowing that is...

guess what...

VIOLATING FREE SPEECH!:rolleyes:

Just because you don't want to hear it doesn't mean someone else shouldn't have the right to say it.

So you would support racist comments being made purely because you have a right to say what you like??? What a seriously flawed logic you have. Quit rolling your eyes at me
 
So you would support racist comments being made purely because you have a right to say what you like??? What a seriously flawed logic you have. Quit rolling your eyes at me

To steal a line from the French resident and English student Voltaire "I may detest what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it."

I'm not supporting racism by any means, but when someone is given the right to decide what is right and what is wrong (can or can't be said) you can bet many problems will follow.
 
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