Help installing OS on macbook

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  1. Soundwave2k macrumors newbie

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    Hey everyone. I’m new to macs and I recently acquired a late 2013 15” MacBook Pro running mojave. The unit came with a 500gb Samsung m.2 drive that I assume was faulty. I kept getting random reboots and then the file with the question mark. I’d even get the circle with the line at startup. I ordered a new crucial pcie nvme drive and installed it. I did some research and found that I could use trans Mac to create a bootable usb drive. For some reason, the system will not allow me to boot from there and will not recognize that the new drive is even installed. I tried internet recover and it wants to install mavericks. It still doesnt see the new drive, though. I’m at a loss. I need the latest os that will recognize the non proprietary drive but I can’t seem to be able to boot from usb, only internet restore. Can anyone help me, I don’t have any more hair to pull out.
     
  2. Loki.Mephisto macrumors 6502a

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    You‘ll need at least High Sierra as earlier systems do not come with an NVMe driver.

    Ideally you could use a second Mac (from a friend, for example), download Mojave from the App Store and create a bootable USB drive: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372
     
  3. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Let’s say I have no friends with macs. What else can I do?
     
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    When you booted to internet recovery. Did you try Option-⌘-R to boot to the latest macOS installer compatible with your Mac?
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204904

    If you have an external hard drive. You can boot into internet recover, format the external and install Mavericks. Then update to Mojave via the App Store and clone the drive to your SSD. Alternatively boot the external to Mavericks and use Diskmaker X to create a Mojave installer USB and install Mojave to the SSD.
     
  5. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I have a 128gb flash drive. Would that work as an external for this purpose?
     
  6. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Alright. I was able to get Mavericks to install on the usb external drive. However, when I attempt to install mojave, I get the error that the computer is missing a firmware partition. Now I’m stuck again. Can anyone help?
     

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    Once started up with the Mojave installer, you need to first partition your SSD drive using disk utility - you should be able to run disk utility once the installer is started.

    In other words: before starting the installation fire up disk utility and partition your SSD. This shouldn't be too difficult (also see: https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac/partition-hard-drive-mac-3619175/)

    Once completed, start the install procedure; this time you should see your SSD
     
  8. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    So don’t attempt to install from within a running Mavericks environment? Should I boot into the area where I can access disk management? It seems I still can’t see my ssd. Or are you saying to start the installer while booted into Mavericks and run disk management after opening the installer?

    I’m sorry but I feel like a total moron trying to work on this thing.
     
  9. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I’ve done just this and I still do not see the ssd. I just don’t get it. I started the installer and launched disk utility and all it sees is the flash drive that’s running the os and disk 0. Disk 0 doesn’t appear to be my ssd. What else can we try?
     
  10. Loki.Mephisto macrumors 6502a

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    Good question... Just to make sure: you started from the USB drive? Remember, you need at least High Sierra
     
  11. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    This might be a remedial question, but again, I’m a total Mac dummy. Can I try installing high Sierra? If so, where can I install that from? Attempting to install Mojave clearly isn’t working.
    --- Post Merged, Jul 25, 2019 ---
    Also, yes, I’m running the MacBook directly from the usb drive at this point. It boots just fine into Mavericks.
     
  12. Loki.Mephisto macrumors 6502a

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    I doubt the problem is Mojave. I got the exact same system config (Late 2013 15“ MBP + Crucial P1) running both High Sierra and Catalina beta. No issues basically.

    I start to suspect a hardware fault thb.
     
  13. Fishrrman macrumors P6

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    OP --

    Sounds like the person from whom you bought the MBP took out the factory-installed drive, and installed a 3rd-party drive.

    And that's where the problems began.
    Not a particularly good thing to do with a MBP... UNLESS you "know what you're doing". Apple doesn't design their hardware for this, and tricks are going to be needed to make 3rd-party drives work.

    There is a thread here detailing how to install and set up a 3rd party "blade" SSD and adapter in retina MacBook Pros:
    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/upgrading-2013-2014-macbook-pro-ssd-to-m-2-nvme.2034976/

    It is VERY long, with many posts.
    You're going to have to read through most (all?) of it, to see where others had similar problems, and how they overcame them.

    If you had the factory-original drive, you could put that in, and I'll bet most (all?) of these problems would be solved, "just like that"...
     
  14. Loki.Mephisto macrumors 6502a

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    Good point, @Fishrrman. Potentially the adapter used is not compatible/faulty
     
  15. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks guys. I’ll do some more research. All I really want to do with this macbook is photo editing due to the quality of the display. I have multiple PCs in my house and all of them, calibrated as much as possible, have different quality displays. The Retina display just looks so perfect for this application.
     
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    I guess the best approach to follow is to first find out which adapter is installed in your Macbook. Since a NVMe SSD was installed, some sort of adapter is installed for sure, otherwise the NVMe SSD could not even be installed.

    Once you know what adapter it is (perhaps post an image or consult the thread mentioned above) we could go ahead from there....
     
  17. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Not much to go on with this. It doesn’t look like the cheap bad one but the pcb looks to be the same configuration as the known good adapters.
     

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    Hm... never saw that particular adapter.

    Check out this wikipost: #1

    Do you by any chance have access to a Sintech adapter as depicted in the wikipost, maybe from a friend? My first guess would be you have a faulty/incompatible adapter. In any case, mentioned adapters are not that expensive (around 20 bucks)
     
  19. Fishrrman macrumors P6

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    OP:

    You can waste time and money trying to get a 3rd-party drive to work...
    or
    You can hunt up an Apple-original drive, and put that in, and it will probably work from the moment you do that.
     
  20. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I went ahead and ordered a Sintech adapter. I figure at this point, I’ll only have $75 wrapped up into it and if it doesn’t solve the problem, I’ll hunt for an Apple drive. I’ll have an update on Sunday.
     
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    Got my authentic Sintech adapter today. Looks identical to the one I pulled out. Down to the black pcb and numbering on the plate. The only difference is that it appears to have better insulation on the side where it plugs into the oem socket. I’ll give it a try and pray. Pray with me.
     
  22. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Ok guys... I’m over the moon! I had a working MacBook running solely off a usb stick with Mavericks installed. I grabbed another usb stick and created a bootable usb using high Sierra that had to be downloaded via torrent. I booted into that stick and finally... finally was able to see the ssd. I installed high Sierra and immediately upgraded to Mojave. I turned the unit off, pulled the usb sticks out, took a deep breath, and hit the power button. Ladies and gentlemen, it worked. I finally have a fully functional MacBook Pro. Thank you all for your help! Just wish Lightroom wasn’t a pay per year deal. I need some decent editing software now.
     
  23. Loki.Mephisto macrumors 6502a

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    Glad to hear - so assumingly the adapter caused the issue?

    Be careful with torrented systems though, you never know what you're buying :)
     
  24. Soundwave2k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Honestly i don’t think it was the adapter. I kept having the same issues after installing the new one. When I look back at the whole process, I think my original bootable usb wasn’t formatted correctly.
     

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