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Help me understand 4k
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I won't get into a big debate on this. However, I watch certain tv programs which do have logo's on the screen and also play games. I use my tv everyday for several hours. I have had 4 OLED tv's and not one has had burn-in. For a start, if your watching other media in between the media with logo's on that should be enough to stop image retention, never alone burn-in. Also OLED tv's by LG have built in systems that run screen corrections/clearing/cleaning processes after 2-4 hours of use, depending on models. These also help towards image retention. I'm not saying burn-in is impossible. But within the times you said people have stated it seems unlikely or they may have had faulty sets. Burn-in in such a short period would be even worse than plasmas 10 years ago.
LCD/LEDs can have burn-in. I've never seen it in person and I think it takes a long, long, longtime to happen, if and when it does. It seems we must all suffer with insufficient tech lol!
As pointed out, only iTunes content is upgraded to 4K, not personal movie collection, that's for you to do that yourself.
As long as you have the bandwidth, then i see no problem with 4K... even compression, you'd still require a better connection. eg. Netflix recommends 25Mbps for UltraHD, so i'd imagine Apple would be roughly the same.
4K content from Apple will come, give it time
Yes, I’ve seen it. 15% is a very small percentage. However, it’s hard to judge how many cases are really burn-in or just image retention. I can only go by my own experience and people I know for certain.
Just curious, have you experienced burn-in on an OLED tv first hand or are you only going by what you’ve read? Actually, do you even own an OLED tv or have you ever owned one?
Just curious, have you experienced burn-in on an OLED tv first hand or are you only going by what you’ve read? Actually, do you even own an OLED tv or have you ever owned one?
Ok, so you have no first hand experience with an OLED tv. However, your making claims about them and your decision is based purely on forum posts. If the burn-in is such a big problem and is vastly effecting many people don’t you think at least several av sites which review OLED TVs would be mentioning this?
Also, let’s say for arguments sake your 15% burn-in figure is correct. Just consider the percentage of LED users who complain about light bleed, uniformity issues, bad contract, just to mention a few. The av forums are full of threads which are full of people complaining about issues like these and lets just say, the percentage of people who suffer with issues like these is a lot higher than 15%. Manufacturers have had over a decade to fix issues like these on LED TVs and have still not been able too. OLED TVs are still young and will continue to get better.
Also, let’s say for arguments sake your 15% burn-in figure is correct. Just consider the percentage of LED users who complain about light bleed, uniformity issues, bad contract, just to mention a few. The av forums are full of threads which are full of people complaining about issues like these and lets just say, the percentage of people who suffer with issues like these is a lot higher than 15%. Manufacturers have had over a decade to fix issues like these on LED TVs and have still not been able too. OLED TVs are still young and will continue to get better.
I said:
1. OLED can burn-in, which is true
2. Given the anecdotal evidence now that more people have them, *I* will stay away in the medium term. People are free to do what they want.
I know the shortcomings of other technologies, but burn-in is simply something I would not be able to stand, so I don't want to risk it.
You're a new user who seems too eager to protect OLED.
1. OLED can burn-in, which is true
2. Given the anecdotal evidence now that more people have them, *I* will stay away in the medium term. People are free to do what they want.
I know the shortcomings of other technologies, but burn-in is simply something I would not be able to stand, so I don't want to risk it.
You're a new user who seems too eager to protect OLED.
I am not a new user as i’ve already said I’ve had many OLED TVs now. I’ve also had many plasma and LED TVs.
So does anyone who defends a product they have experience with have to be wrong? I’ve had experience with OLED TVs, you have not. I have only been mentioning what I have experienced and what I’ve learnt. That doesn’t mean my information is any less correct than yours. Your basing your judgements and conclusions on Internet forum posts. If everyone done that no one would buy anything. But that is your preogative.
I haven’t said OLED is perfect or that LED is terrible. I’ve just been trying to point out that OLED is no where near as prone to burn-in as you’ve made out. Others have also commented on this so that should tell you something. But continue to believe what you wish. I do not wish to have to keep repeating myself and making this thread into a debate over which is better.
So does anyone who defends a product they have experience with have to be wrong? I’ve had experience with OLED TVs, you have not. I have only been mentioning what I have experienced and what I’ve learnt. That doesn’t mean my information is any less correct than yours. Your basing your judgements and conclusions on Internet forum posts. If everyone done that no one would buy anything. But that is your preogative.
I haven’t said OLED is perfect or that LED is terrible. I’ve just been trying to point out that OLED is no where near as prone to burn-in as you’ve made out. Others have also commented on this so that should tell you something. But continue to believe what you wish. I do not wish to have to keep repeating myself and making this thread into a debate over which is better.
You mentioned LG before. It would have been so much easier if you'd just come out and said you had a problem with LG and don't trust them lol!
Anyway, as long as your happy with your tv and get enjoyment from it thats all that matter.
Anyway, as long as your happy with your tv and get enjoyment from it thats all that matter.
well I like to get a 70 inch but oled might be out of my price range
should I consider a led one any suggestions
should I consider a led one any suggestions
What you get will be personal be it OLED or led. It could be a serious amount of money for you.
Try to look at many. Try to take a data stick with a 4k clip on it, use it as a reference, hopefully the one that you would want has a USB 3 input. Try to see HDR content at least. It is good.
Check the set up scales well. Cannot help in the US but U.K. we have 1080i over the aerial to compare. SD, that will never look good.
Go look through avs forums etc. Someone will have the set you fancy and there may well be a dedicated forum to the set model number.
Check that the set has 4k on all hdmi inputs, some do not. Try to compare them side by side, not always possible.
Then, don't listen to anyone here or on any forums. Listen to your eyes.
You are the one that will have to shell out a lot of loot and have to live with the decision. 4k done well on a good set is sublime. Bluray films are superb. Streaming is good, if the provider does a good job but not as good as bluray. I hope to see what Apple TV can do soon.
However, for streaming, I have a reasonably fast connection and no data caps. I don't have any home servers so cannot comment on that.
Try to look at many. Try to take a data stick with a 4k clip on it, use it as a reference, hopefully the one that you would want has a USB 3 input. Try to see HDR content at least. It is good.
Check the set up scales well. Cannot help in the US but U.K. we have 1080i over the aerial to compare. SD, that will never look good.
Go look through avs forums etc. Someone will have the set you fancy and there may well be a dedicated forum to the set model number.
Check that the set has 4k on all hdmi inputs, some do not. Try to compare them side by side, not always possible.
Then, don't listen to anyone here or on any forums. Listen to your eyes.
You are the one that will have to shell out a lot of loot and have to live with the decision. 4k done well on a good set is sublime. Bluray films are superb. Streaming is good, if the provider does a good job but not as good as bluray. I hope to see what Apple TV can do soon.
However, for streaming, I have a reasonably fast connection and no data caps. I don't have any home servers so cannot comment on that.
I don't have a problem with LG, but before buying a product I do normally check if users report issues and many times decide against it even if it seems quite perfect.
Most of the time I don't try a product before buying, so after it passes the spec check, I will rely on professional reviews for the out of the box evaluation. There's usually very few models that tick all the essential boxes, if any. And then there is the price.
Most of the time I don't try a product before buying, so after it passes the spec check, I will rely on professional reviews for the out of the box evaluation. There's usually very few models that tick all the essential boxes, if any. And then there is the price.
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