A solitary Mac line and only spared the charnel house along with the 2014 Mini because Apple forwent updating it for several years. Remember how Apple was unabashed about selling both ageing lines at more or less full RRP long after competitors had moved on in terms of hardware?
I don't understand single word you wrote here. Looks like gibberish.
Apple's planned obsolesce of perfectly good and fully functional "machines" is disgusting at best. My 2014 27" 5K Retina iMac and 2014 15" Retina MBP are both going to be no longer supported. Yet they work perfectly fine, most likely more stable and reliable than the new M1 Macs. That is a HUGE slap in the face. I will keep both machines and I have no intentions of putting either of them out to pasture. I also have no intentions of purchasing "equivalent" new M1 Macs. That would cost at least $7,500.............just so they can receive the bloatware and eye candy that Apple is bringing to the Mac Computer Lineup? I do not need, want, or crave any of the NEW CRAP that macOS Monterey brings to the table. Yes, I will miss the excellent Apple security updates, but that is a risk I will tolerate. Timmy Apple does not get any extra cash from my pocket this time. I wonder what Microsoft Windows 11 is going to be like? No, I do not plan on going to the Dark Side, but I also do not appreciate Apple turning their back on perfectly good and fully functional "machines". I am probably the only one that is not at all excited or impressed with the NEW MacOS Monterey. This new marketing ploy to "force" Apple Owners into the new M1 or Mx product line has Microsoft STENCH all over it. Thanks Tim.
You will get official security updates probably until late 2023 with Big Sur.
That is exactly the same scenario I am about to be put through. But, in reality, I have no interest in installing the NEW macOS Monterey on either my 2014 15" Retina MBP or my 2014 27" 5K iMac anyway. It is a new Apple Marketing Ploy, people are freaking out and already saying they plan to buy a NEW M1 Silicon Mac. That is kind of like buying a NEW Lamborghini Sports Car to get to and from the local grocery store, when your Ford Focus will do just fine, and it is already paid for. For a "Multi-BILLION Dollar" corporation, Apple is making it difficult for me to remain a 30 year Apple FanBoy much longer. macOS Big Sur lasted about a year, then BAM, BAM, BAM. Maybe Timmy Apple wants to line his pockets with more of his user's HARD EARNED GOLD before retiring. There are a lot of people who will abandon their perfectly good 2014 Mac's and take the leap into buying a NEW M1 Silicon Mac. The NEW macOS Monterey is making the Mac Operating System look and feel and even function like a BLOATED iPad. I do not NEED and do not WANT a glorified iPad in lieu of a Mac Computer. Too bad for Apple.
All notebook batteries eventually swell. That's a safety feature (they swell rather than explode). But some computers have had issues where they wear out too quickly. 6 years is about normal for needing to replace a battery.
Apple kept selling the 2014 Mac mini as "new" until 2018. They commit to supporting products for 5 years after they are last sold as "new." The 2015 MacBook Air and 2012 pre-retina 13" MacBook Pro were also sold as "new" for several years and similarly got extended OS updates.
Apple cannot kill off the Apple Watch 3, they still sell it on their website and it is still a very popular model in MANY retail stores. They would look foolish if they discontinued a device that is still being marketed and sold...............Oh wait, that is the exact same scenario with the macOS Monterey debacle and planned obsolesce of MANY perfectly good and highly functional Mac Computers. That really wreaks of a Microsoft ploy..........I guess Timmy Apple is saying in no uncertain terms that it really is "all about the Benjamins". Bad move Apple.
I always thought this was the biggest pile of BS ever. This is the biggest company on Earth and they couldn't write their own driver for it?
It’ll be 4Gb because of the Macbook Air and Mac mini 2014 that is still supported?
Apple HAS supported machines for 5 years. Older machines still get software and security updates all the way back to High Sierra. Unless you can show me where Apple states that up until the final day machines are sold they will have free OS upgrades from 5 years beyond then the word "support" doesn't apply to OS upgrades, but rather software and security updates which is what they have done.
Some WiFi devices cease to receive vendor security updates because they are EOL. It seems both the WiFi devices and discrete GPU are most susceptible to being deemed vintage when it comes to MacOS because the lack performance criteria. The 2012 retina MBP that I have fell off the Big Sur supported Macs previously just for what you are irritated about. It still has seen many security patches with 10.15.7 system, but it’s end of the road. Just trade them or sell them before problems appear then it’s essentially worthless to repair. Old computers in companies are usually refreshed every 3 - 4 years to avoid reaching the point where they are not worth selling to recoup part of purchasing expense anyway as another guide. Hanging onto older computers just isn’t worth it as these modern computers seems less and less durable compared to earlier examples.
Same here!
Because Microsoft exists and I can draw comparisons to them. My Lenovo Thinkcentre in my family business is still going strong after 7 years and will so for years to come. It's purchase date was May 2014, the same age as many of the machines being binned from Monterey.
I like how you cherrypicked my post and returned it with that response. 🙄. My post was referring to people complaining about Apple not supporting legacy Macs well over 7+ years old with FREE OS upgrades. Microsoft is not putting out new OS's and telling all customers with very old machines to simply download the newest version of Windows and it will be licensed and activated free of charge. Not sure why you needed to mention your Lenovo machine. It's completely irrelevant to this topic.
Exactly. Well, I bought it second hand but it was like new.
No, everything is relevant when Windows is MacOS' main competition. I've got a couple machines in the building that came with Windows 8 and got a free boost to 10 eons ago. Learn a thing or two about Windows, there have been dozens of builds some small and other big that can be seen as Apple's annual OS updates.
I think that’s the point. Apple is done with NVidia once and for all. The 2015s use AMD chips. Probably easier to just stop all machines of that vintage.
T1 and T2 seems to be a good dividing line for the next big OS purge. The snag with this is that iMacs didn't get T2 until the 2020 model.
Whew. One more year for my late-2015 iMac. Budgeting to replace with an M2-ish iMac next year!
No one should buy a system they do not want. Luckily for Apple approximately half of the Mac purchased in a year are going to users new to the Mac, so that’s a LOT of new folks to replace those are just fed up. And, in another 20 years or so, I’d reckon THOSE folks will be fed up and so on and so on.
