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Anybody using M5 MacBook Pro not being able to install the RC?
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could have just made the whole vaseline effect optional instead, for those who like it

I gotta say, I love the term "Liquid Vaseline" to describe the new partially improved tinted mode. I hope that term takes off.

(I still wish they would add a "classic" option though. There is still too much visual complexity even with Liquid Vaseline)

For example?
The Guardian (newspaper) especially with CSS ads as you scroll through articles.
 
Are the music player's controls back where they belong —top and center —with an always-visible volume slider?
I would SO hope so. But am assuming it's a no.
I'm with you, I hate the whole new Music app. Total garbage, the new UX is laid out in the most inconvenient way to get to anything you actually want to get to.

I figured I was the only one that cared about the missing volume slider, but can't believe something like that isn't there. The old control layout was lightyears beyond this. This current version just feels like they made a stupid choice and forced all of the controls to the bottom of the window.
Then they just stuffed in every other feature that they had to, including volume.
Clunky, ugly, bulky and not user friendly in the slightest.

BUT, you CAN do LOTS of things that you'd never want to, super easily! 🙄
 
I like some things about Liquid Glass, but what I really dislike is the weirdly huge corner radius on all the windows. Why is that good? I kinda get that it fits the liquid concept, but it seems way over the top, to me. I've only used it in UTM so far, and probably won't update until I can afford a machine upgrade—hopefully next year for the rumoured/assumed design revisions—but that part will honestly be a bit of bummer. Maybe the new MacBook Pros will also use a huge corner radius? 🤣

EDIT: Actually, looking at it now it is quite close to the one on my MacBook Pro. But to me the inner corner radius on the screen itself is a more natural looking curve for the window. And Sequoia uses a proportionately smaller radius again on the windows, so just looks very natural to me (when seeing all three together). Anyway... I'll obviously get used to it when the time comes.
 
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Is there a fix for the constant need for fans to run? Mac OS Tahoe takes a lot more CPU and GPU, needlessly it seems, for the new interface. My fan rarely ran before and now many basic tasks make the computer work hard.

I don't mind if new features work the hardware more, but a questionable cosmetic change that wastes hardware resources is a frustrating move from Apple. And it seems 'turning off' the transparency effects don't really make a difference to power usage.
 
One can only imagine the Liquid Glass idea was born out of Apples obsession to appeal to kids, and the easily amused.

To draw them into the ecosystem capturing them as lifelong customers, a goal they've been very successful attaining.

In the meantime all the rest of the Cupertino companies customers are subject to the whims of the firms internal slogan "we know what the customer wants before they do".

The interesting and revealing fact is amongst otherwise intelligent people, a number of the ecosystems devotees agree and sing the company's praises. They cast aside independent critical thinking.

It's good to be Apple.

My theory as that with AI running years behind schedule, Apple needed a reason for people to upgrade hardware and so came up with an interface that takes a lot of CPU and GPU.
 
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(I still wish they would add a "classic" option though. There is still too much visual complexity even with Liquid Vaseline)

you are confusing OS Vaseline Soup with one of its appearance settings, Vaseline Frost.

as for 'classic', the only hope left is that Apple Intelligence will at some point outsmart the idiots in charge, and you'll just mumble 'Siri, what the?', and all will return to normal.
 
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The mumsnet forums. The forums here. Pickmypostcode. It isn't happening to everyone but it is for multiple of us and it started in iOS26. Even disabling my ad blocker doesn't fix it – and that's the only extension I have enabled.

This thread is about Tahoe - macOS 26, not iOS.
 
My theory as that with AI running years behind schedule, Apple needed a reason to people to upgrade hardware and so came up with an interface that takes a lot of CPU and GPU.

remember when they released an 'update' which reduced performance so that the dodgy soldering wouldn't overheat and crack and cause GPU to fail? and they only wheeled out the logic board replacement program at the threat of a class action lawsuit? oh, those were unhappy late 2011 days.
 
I would SO hope so. But am assuming it's a no.
I'm with you, I hate the whole new Music app. Total garbage, the new UX is laid out in the most inconvenient way to get to anything you actually want to get to.

I figured I was the only one that cared about the missing volume slider, but can't believe something like that isn't there. The old control layout was lightyears beyond this. This current version just feels like they made a stupid choice and forced all of the controls to the bottom of the window.
Then they just stuffed in every other feature that they had to, including volume.
Clunky, ugly, bulky and not user friendly in the slightest.

BUT, you CAN do LOTS of things that you'd never want to, super easily! 🙄
I don't miss the volume slider. I just click, hold and drag on the volume icon to adjust the volume. Gets rid of the clutter.
 
Are the music player's controls back where they belong —top and center —with an always-visible volume slider?
No to both. I'm gradually getting used to the Music app's player controls being at the bottom of the screen, but I'm not sure about the track play progress bar being reduced to a very thin line, expanding to normal visible thickness only when you move the pointer directly over this very thin line, which also pointlessly blurs out the names of the artist, album, and track, as well as the miniature album art graphic. There's plenty of extra white space below the player controls cartouche for increasing the height of this cartouche so that the progress bar's full thickness can always be displayed within it, and not require the user to fussily move the pointer over the very thin bar to expand it.
 
My theory as that with AI running years behind schedule, Apple needed a reason for people to upgrade hardware and so came up with an interface that takes a lot of CPU and GPU.
Yes indeed, they have a long predictable history of forcing people to upgrade hardware and the OS. It’s the first question you’re asked when calling tech support “are you running the latest OS?”.

Rather immediately after their annual OS upgrade they “stop signing the prior version” thereby preventing people from going back. Then they brag loudly about how many people have upgraded and use that against Android customers as though Apple is far superior.

It’s an amazing display of masterful marketing, influence and control.
 
I refuse to upgrade because of liquid ass. Looking forward to seeing how the tinting looks. Wish we could just turn it off entirely. It does nothing to improve my computing experience when I’m just trying to get crap done and can’t even see what I’m trying to look at and see everything underneath it all distorted instead. Not to mention the performance/battery overhead!
 
So far I don't see any differences with macOS Tahoe/26's new "Tinted" option (in the Appearance prefpane) in any app I've tried it in (both Apple's and third-party), including the Finder. As with iOS, it makes no difference with Control Center either--all its widgets remain just as translucent regardless of this setting. The only thing that fixes that is Reduce Transparency.
 
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Just very glad I am still on Sequoia. Please keep us late-adopters informed of what works and what doesn't work. Thanks!
Same here. I am normally an early adopter day 1, but this one looks like a turkey. I might keep all my computers on Sequoia for a few years.
 
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It runs like a charm on my wife's M1 and nay M3 MBP. Curious what model are you running it on?

No problems here either. Entire family upgraded several laptops, iPhones and iPads without any issues. The only problem was the Home app throwing a fit on one iPhone, but a restart fixed it.

Obviously some people are having issues, but we’ve not experienced that.
 
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