Here's my sole decider re the iPhone 7

[danrichman]

If I can't simultaneously charge the phone and use the Lightning port for a corded headset, I will move to Android. It's that simple.

There are too many times at work when I need to be doing both. And wireless products just don't cut it yet.

So -- assuming the 3.5-mm jack is truly gone, that means there has to be either (1) wireless charging, or (2) some way to simultaneously put power into the phone and get an audio signal out of it, through the Lightning port.

Both seem doubtful.

How do others feel about this?

 

[Mlrollin91]

If I can't simultaneously charge the phone and use the Lightning port for a corded headset, I will move to Android. It's that simple.

There are too many times at work when I need to be doing both. And wireless products just don't cut it yet.

So -- assuming the 3.5-mm jack is truly gone, that means there has to be either (1) wireless charging, or (2) some way to simultaneously put power into the phone and get an audio signal out of it, through the Lightning port.

Both seem doubtful.

How do others feel about this?

It doesn't concern me whatsoever. Ive been using iPods, iPhones and iPads for a decade. I have never once charged while listening at the same exact time. Never. With that being said, give it a couple of weeks until adapters are out. Problem solved. Who am I to say, but I think that is such a trivial reason to switch to Android.

 

[itsray]

i'm sure there will be some sort of lightning/3.5mm split adapter

 

[eyoungren]

If I can't simultaneously charge the phone and use the Lightning port for a corded headset, I will move to Android. It's that simple.

There are too many times at work when I need to be doing both. And wireless products just don't cut it yet.

So -- assuming the 3.5-mm jack is truly gone, that means there has to be either (1) wireless charging, or (2) some way to simultaneously put power into the phone and get an audio signal out of it, through the Lightning port.

Both seem doubtful.

How do others feel about this?

Here is my criteria…

If it's fugly I don't buy it.

Well……looks like I won't be buying it.

 

[thegrants82]

If I can't simultaneously charge the phone and use the Lightning port for a corded headset, I will move to Android. It's that simple.

There are too many times at work when I need to be doing both. And wireless products just don't cut it yet.

So -- assuming the 3.5-mm jack is truly gone, that means there has to be either (1) wireless charging, or (2) some way to simultaneously put power into the phone and get an audio signal out of it, through the Lightning port.

Both seem doubtful.

How do others feel about this?

Get ready in another year to never like a phone again...

 

[danrichman]

It doesn't concern me whatsoever. Ive been using iPods, iPhones and iPads for a decade. I have never once charged while listening at the same exact time. Never. With that being said, give it a couple of weeks until adapters are out. Problem solved. Who am I to say, but I think that is such a trivial reason to switch to Android.

[doublepost=1472685571][/doublepost]How do you imagine an adapter could resolve this issue? A 2 female-into-1 male splitter? It would have to be capable of both taking in power and providing digital sound. Is that electronically possible?

 

[Mlrollin91]

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How do you imagine an adapter could resolve this issue? A 2 female-into-1 male splitter? It would have to be capable of both taking in power and providing digital sound. Is that electronically possible?

Yes it is possible. How is that any different than the lightning/HDMI adapter already on the market?

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD826AM/A/lightning-digital-av-adapter

 

[itsray]

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How do you imagine an adapter could resolve this issue? A 2 female-into-1 male splitter? It would have to be capable of both taking in power and providing digital sound. Is that electronically possible?

not all the pins transfer power. only 1 does. so i'm sure they'll find a way right now its like this, there a lightning music docks that play music from your phone to speakers and power it at the same time....

Pin 1 GND Ground
Pin 2 L0p Lane 0 positive
Pin 3 L0n Lane 0 negative
Pin 4 ID0 Identification/control 0
Pin 5 PWR Power (charger or battery)
Pin 6 L1n Lane 1 negative
Pin 7 L1p Lane 1 positive
Pin 8 ID1 Identification/control 1

 

[rzc16512]

If I can't simultaneously charge the phone and use the Lightning port for a corded headset, I will move to Android. It's that simple.

There are too many times at work when I need to be doing both. And wireless products just don't cut it yet.

So -- assuming the 3.5-mm jack is truly gone, that means there has to be either (1) wireless charging, or (2) some way to simultaneously put power into the phone and get an audio signal out of it, through the Lightning port.

Both seem doubtful.

How do others feel about this?

Android's headed that way too. Look at the new droid

 

[Jimmy James]

There will likely be an adapter with pass through charging. At an additional cost. If you're like me you'll probably need more than one. On top of the price of the phone this is off putting.
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It doesn't concern me whatsoever. Ive been using iPods, iPhones and iPads for a decade. I have never once charged while listening at the same exact time. Never. With that being said, give it a couple of weeks until adapters are out. Problem solved. Who am I to say, but I think that is such a trivial reason to switch to Android.

I do. One of my favourite hobbies is road tripping, camping and day trips exploring the back country. If I couldn't charge my phone on those trips (it's usually plugged in to the 3.5) I'd soon have no phone, music, podcasts, or GPS. that's just one scenario. I'd say it's a pretty good reason to switch (for me). Of course, there will be work arounds.

 

[bhayes444]

If I can't simultaneously charge the phone and use the Lightning port for a corded headset, I will move to Android. It's that simple.

There are too many times at work when I need to be doing both. And wireless products just don't cut it yet.

So -- assuming the 3.5-mm jack is truly gone, that means there has to be either (1) wireless charging, or (2) some way to simultaneously put power into the phone and get an audio signal out of it, through the Lightning port.

Both seem doubtful.

How do others feel about this?

Granted it is an expensive option, but the Apple lightning dock has a 3.5mm port out, and obviously would charge at the same time. I don't know if you could use that where you work, but it's an option if you are able to use it.

 

[Mlrollin91]

There will likely be an adapter with pass through charging. At an additional cost. If you're like me you'll probably need more than one. On top of the price of the phone this is off putting.
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I do. One of my favourite hobbies is road tripping, camping and day trips exploring the back country. If I couldn't charge my phone on those trips (it's usually plugged in to the 3.5) I'd soon have no phone, music, podcasts, or GPS. that's just one scenario. I'd say it's a pretty good reason to switch (for me). Of course, there will be work arounds.

You're telling me that every single time you are using headphones, it is also charging? I get 10+ hours of usage on my iPhone 6s every single day. I have never once needed to charge while using headphones. As I said, over a decade of 'music' devices and never charged while using headphones. Not once.

I don't know if I'm the rule and your the exception or your the rule and I'm the exception. Considering Apple has probably done years of R&D on this issue, I'm assuming I'm the rule.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

This lil guy would solve those issues for a mere $20. It would turn your corded headphones into bluetooth while you charge your phone. Same for allowing an auxiliary cable in a car that does not have bluetooth. Yes, it is $20. But I would much rather drop $20 on this than switch to android. Should I have to do this after spending a grand on a smart phone? That is debatable. But at the same time, Apple doesn't need to cater to my individual wants. They have the right to produce anything they want and I have the right to purchase or walk away.

https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter

 

[Armen]

And wireless products just don't cut it yet.

What exactly do you mean by this?
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You're telling me that every single time you are using headphones, it is also charging? I get 10+ hours of usage on my iPhone 6s every single day. I have never once needed to charge while using headphones. As I said, over a decade of 'music' devices and never charged while using headphones. Not once.

I don't know if I'm the rule and your the exception or your the rule and I'm the exception. Considering Apple has probably done years of R&D on this issue, I'm assuming I'm the rule.

I use Beats Studio 2.0 Wireless headphones at work to listen to music for at least 5-6 hours. Heck, even recharging those doesn't take a long time. I dont charge my phone at work and leave with at least 55% battery after a full day.

 

[LovingTeddy]

What exactly do you mean by this?
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I use Beats Studio 2.0 Wireless headphones at work to listen to music for at least 5-6 hours. Heck, even recharging those doesn't take a long time. I dont charge my phone at work and leave with at least 55% battery after a full day.

Good for you. I need 3.5mm in my 2008 Malibu while I am driving long distance and charging my phone while navigating. No headphone jack is big no no for me. I will stick with iPhone SE as long as possible. Then probably switch to phone with headphone jack.

 

[Batman89]

If I can't simultaneously charge the phone and use the Lightning port for a corded headset, I will move to Android. It's that simple.

Nice.

One less person to deal with when pre-orders open up.

 

[LovingTeddy]

You're telling me that every single time you are using headphones, it is also charging? I get 10+ hours of usage on my iPhone 6s every single day. I have never once needed to charge while using headphones. As I said, over a decade of 'music' devices and never charged while using headphones. Not once.

I don't know if I'm the rule and your the exception or your the rule and I'm the exception. Considering Apple has probably done years of R&D on this issue, I'm assuming I'm the rule.

I do. I am sometimes watching videos and charging my iPhone at same time. I am sure lots of people do that.
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Nice.

One less person to deal with when pre-orders open up.

Bonus for you. I won't buy iPhone 7 if there is no headphone jack. Will not buy any phone without headphone jack

 

[Mlrollin91]

I do. I am sometimes watching videos and charging my iPhone at same time. I am sure lots of people do that.
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Bonus for you. I won't buy iPhone 7 if there is no headphone jack. Will not buy any phone without headphone jack

Not to sound insensitive. But soon you won't be able to buy any phone then. 3.5mm headphone jacks are outdated technology. I give it no more than 5 years until all 3.5mm jacks are removed from devices. There are so many better ways to listen to movies and audio compared to 3.5mm. Even USB headphones provide better sound quality. There are two reasons why I see Apple is doing away with it. 1)Waterproofing. 2) For a better audio experience.

 

[Armen]

I will stick with iPhone SE as long as possible. Then probably switch to phone with headphone jack.

Assuming there are any smartphones left which come with a headphone jack.

 

[danrichman]

Granted it is an expensive option, but the Apple lightning dock has a 3.5mm port out, and obviously would charge at the same time. I don't know if you could use that where you work, but it's an option if you are able to use it.

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Granted it is an expensive option, but the Apple lightning dock has a 3.5mm port out, and obviously would charge at the same time. I don't know if you could use that where you work, but it's an option if you are able to use it.

That does look like a workable option, though it gets terrible reviews. Thanks!

Granted it is an expensive option, but the Apple lightning dock has a 3.5mm port out, and obviously would charge at the same time. I don't know if you could use that where you work, but it's an option if you are able to use it.

That's a great suggestion -- though it gets terrible reviews. But thanks!

 

[Gypsy36]

Yup, I have the same problems. And, if people really want to mock, I'll admit it - beyond the annoying feature of having to be charged, wireless earphones freak me out from a health perspective.

 

[LovingTeddy]

Assuming there are any smartphones left which come with a headphone jack.

I am willing to bet with you. Headphone jack will be there for the long run. There will always be smartphone with headphone jack.

People thought there will not be flip phone anymore. Guess what, there are still many flip phone. People thought there will no CD/DVD anymore, guess what, lots of PC still come with optical drive. People thought there will no tape player anymore, guess what, there are still tape player.

I can guarantee that, if I am looking for it, there will be somethings available. And I doubt 3.5 headphone will be history anytime soon.

 

[danrichman]

Yes it is possible. How is that any different than the lightning/HDMI adapter already on the market?

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD826AM/A/lightning-digital-av-adapter

That doesn't appear to be a solution.

 

[techiebug]

Of course Apple will be very willing to provide you a solution for $30: a splitter

 

[Mlrollin91]

That doesn't appear to be a solution.

What?? You asked me if Audio Out and Power In was even possible. I replied yes and posted this link, which proves it is possible. The adapter for 3.5mm/Lightning has yet to be made. But I answered your question by posting the above.
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You don't get better Audio experience and you can get lighting headphone now, without remove 3.5mm.

I doubt DAC on earbud will be any better than one comes with iPhone.

And you don't need remove 3.5mm to get waterproof. My sub 200 dollar Moto G is water proof and it has 3.5mm

Did I say removing 3.5mm was required for waterproof? No. I said its probably a reasoning Apple is using. Now they only have to waterproof one port instead of two. Probably why iOS 10 includes a lightning water sensor popup.

Yes, you do get better audio experience with Lightning over 3.5mm. Thats a fact. 3.5mm jack is analog, Lightning is digital. Digital will always be higher quality.

Not scientific, but it proves my point: https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/09/iphone-7-lightning-headphones-hands-on/