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very nice apple

That said how much would I use it on my phone when I have the remote? dunno. Not often
 
Well, it is much easier to use the keyboard on the phone. That is the main reason I might use the iPhone instead of the remote.

Ideally, they would open up Siri for the Appletv so remote apps like Simple Control could implement Siri.
Very true about the keyboard. Didn't think of that.

Would be far better on youtube for example
 
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At its recent Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple unveiled an all new "Remote" app for iOS devices, which has been entirely overhauled to make it easier than ever to control a fourth-generation Apple TV with an iPhone.

In the video below, we took a look at the Remote app to give MacRumors readers an early glimpse at what's in store. The new Remote app, which connects to an Apple TV via Bluetooth, mimics the exact layout of the Siri Remote for a navigation experience that's streamlined across different input methods.


When content like movies or music is playing, the Remote app includes a full "Now Playing" view for control purposes, along with a dedicated Menu button and a Siri button. As with the physical Apple TV Remote, navigation through the iOS app is done via touch gestures.

Entering text, like passwords and usernames, is much easier with the iOS Remote app because any text field automatically brings up a keyboard. Full Siri voice commands are supported, as is dictation. Because it includes the same gyroscope and accelerometer in the Siri Remote, an iPhone can be used as a dedicated game controller for playing games on the Apple TV.

The Apple TV Remote app is currently available to developers and can be downloaded through the Apple Developer website. It's not clear when the Apple TV Remote app will be released, but it may be released alongside tvOS 10 and iOS 10 this fall. The developer beta of the app only requires iOS 9.3.2 and tvOS 9.2.1, so there's a possibility it may launch ahead of the new operating systems.

For details on new Apple TV features coming in tvOS 10, make sure to check out our tvOS 10 roundup. Don't miss out on our previous videos, which have covered iOS 10, watchOS 3, and macOS Sierra:

- WWDC 2016 Overview in Seven Minutes
- iOS 10's Overhauled Lockscreen
- The New iOS 10 Photos App
- The New iOS 10 Messages App
- macOS Sierra - Siri
- iOS 10 Hidden Features
- watchOS 3 Overview
- iOS 10's Redesigned Apple Music Experience
- 3D Touch in iOS 10
- The New Home App for Controlling HomeKit Devices
- Everything New in tvOS 10

We've also got roundups for all of the upcoming operating systems, including watchOS 3, macOS Sierra, and iOS 10.

Article Link: Here's the Upcoming Apple TV 'Remote' App
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At its recent Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple unveiled an all new "Remote" app for iOS devices, which has been entirely overhauled to make it easier than ever to control a fourth-generation Apple TV with an iPhone.

In the video below, we took a look at the Remote app to give MacRumors readers an early glimpse at what's in store. The new Remote app, which connects to an Apple TV via Bluetooth, mimics the exact layout of the Siri Remote for a navigation experience that's streamlined across different input methods.


When content like movies or music is playing, the Remote app includes a full "Now Playing" view for control purposes, along with a dedicated Menu button and a Siri button. As with the physical Apple TV Remote, navigation through the iOS app is done via touch gestures.

Entering text, like passwords and usernames, is much easier with the iOS Remote app because any text field automatically brings up a keyboard. Full Siri voice commands are supported, as is dictation. Because it includes the same gyroscope and accelerometer in the Siri Remote, an iPhone can be used as a dedicated game controller for playing games on the Apple TV.

The Apple TV Remote app is currently available to developers and can be downloaded through the Apple Developer website. It's not clear when the Apple TV Remote app will be released, but it may be released alongside tvOS 10 and iOS 10 this fall. The developer beta of the app only requires iOS 9.3.2 and tvOS 9.2.1, so there's a possibility it may launch ahead of the new operating systems.

For details on new Apple TV features coming in tvOS 10, make sure to check out our tvOS 10 roundup. Don't miss out on our previous videos, which have covered iOS 10, watchOS 3, and macOS Sierra:

- WWDC 2016 Overview in Seven Minutes
- iOS 10's Overhauled Lockscreen
- The New iOS 10 Photos App
- The New iOS 10 Messages App
- macOS Sierra - Siri
- iOS 10 Hidden Features
- watchOS 3 Overview
- iOS 10's Redesigned Apple Music Experience
- 3D Touch in iOS 10
- The New Home App for Controlling HomeKit Devices
- Everything New in tvOS 10

We've also got roundups for all of the upcoming operating systems, including watchOS 3, macOS Sierra, and iOS 10.

Article Link: Here's the Upcoming Apple TV 'Remote' App
i can only hope and pray that the iPod touch comes with touch 3D because that's going to be the remote I use with the Apple TV 4. I hate the new remote.

Kev inYVR
 
You seem to be talking about feature sets, while my biggest complaint is released products not working.

As I mentioned - "OS X launch anyone. Ouch, now that was Beta testing". The whole thing was a mess especially Cheetah and Puma. And took years to become stable. Panics, crashes, freezes. Glad we got to the end of that tunnel and got a great OS.

Same with MobileMe, very dissapointed in that at the time for not working as advertised. iPhone 3GS with its software bug causing the keyboard to lag and homescreen to lock up. No idea how we got through the Beta testing period with those issues hidden. iPhone 4 with the "No SIM installed" problem requiring a hardware swap (which was unfortunate at launch as it was in such short supply). I remember in the early 90's the Macintosh Portable. The company my dad worked for forked out a small forune for one. It had nothing but issues, in the end it was returned. Never owned one, but always lusted after it - the G4 Cube at the turn of the millennium. Gorgeous hardware but again riddled with issues particularly overheating.

Etc, etc.

Apple seems to have a lot of people who view its past with rose tinted glasses, I hear it so often "things worked back then". But just like today, Apple had issues historically - some which were huge.

It would be nice to go for a run with the Apple Watch and have the workout session still be there when I'm done. It fails more often than not.

I run 2 to 3 times a week - it's one of my favourite use cases of the watch (along with being able to buy a water mid-run/end of run wallet-less using Apple pay). No issues with lost workouts. I also walk a lot between offices for meetings so I log these walking workouts and I log my weights sessions under 'other' - never lost one. I'd troubleshoot as you seem to be having basic issues.

The original iPhone was fine because we didn't know what we were missing with native apps and copy/paste and 3G. That stuff was great when we got it, but I liked the phone just fine. At least it worked. Apple is growing too fast and needs to Snow Leopard the whole company.

You may not have known. But A few of us did. Having used Symbian, Palm and Windows Mobile devices apps were a big miss for me on the original iPhone. 3G was common too on higher end handsets, the Nokia N95 my last non-iPhone handset had it. And C/C/P was a no brainer, but they shipped without it unlike a lot of popular smartphones of the time like Blackberry.

But yes I too liked the original iPhone just as I like my Apple Watch and 9.7" iPad Pro with their feature set holes.

Apple is growing too fast and needs to Snow Leopard the whole company.

Completely disagree. iOS 9.3 has been one of the best iOS versions for me in terms of overall stability - I don't remember a re-spring, no locking up or WiFi issues. OS X El Capitan likewise has been rock solid (good to see after some shaky moments in recent years with Lion and discoveryd in Yosemite). YMMV.
 
You do realize they sell IR emitters AND universal remote software for iOS, Right? However back to my statement the goal is not having to use multiple remotes/devices. The app is a good idea but I for one am not going to use it if I have to have another remote to adjust the volume.

The Logitech Harmony line of devices aren't bad they just lack the advanced features of the iPhone.
Eh, I could see maybe using a dedicated iPod Touch or something, but there's no way I'm attaching and detaching some extra thing to my iPhone all the time. For my uses, the Logitech remote works great -- and when I have to search in the ATV interface (ATV3), I use the existing Remote app on my phone -- no IR gadget needed -- and it brings up a usable keyboard right away.
 
Eh, I could see maybe using a dedicated iPod Touch or something, but there's no way I'm attaching and detaching some extra thing to my iPhone all the time. For my uses, the Logitech remote works great -- and when I have to search in the ATV interface (ATV3), I use the existing Remote app on my phone -- no IR gadget needed -- and it brings up a usable keyboard right away.

And then there is the Logitech app that does the same things as the physical remote...including volume control. I find the Logitech gear/app work quite well.
 
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Eh, I could see maybe using a dedicated iPod Touch or something, but there's no way I'm attaching and detaching some extra thing to my iPhone all the time. For my uses, the Logitech remote works great -- and when I have to search in the ATV interface (ATV3), I use the existing Remote app on my phone -- no IR gadget needed -- and it brings up a usable keyboard right away.
The volume control for internet connected TVs and receivers can typically be done via IP control. This is how Simple Control works to control my receiver, so Apple could implement that type of thing if they wanted. I don't think they will, but it is possible. The way Simple works with older equipment is by using an ethernet or wifi IR blaster.
 
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Does Hey Siri work with the new iPhone app? In other words can I now be in the kitchen and just yell at my iPhone to change the channel from CNN to ESPN live?
 
The iPhone 7 keynote just passed with no mention of the AppleTV update or the Remote app update.
Will there be a Apple TV event soon or will these updates come with fanfare ?
 
The iPhone 7 keynote just passed with no mention of the AppleTV update or the Remote app update.
Will there be a Apple TV event soon or will these updates come with fanfare ?
The tea leaves say the next event will likely be Macs & iPads, in about a month (sooner and it interrupts press coverage of iPhones, later and it gets too late for the holiday buying season). It would not be unreasonable to see a few minutes spent on the AppleTV there (this last event was a pretty full ticket, with the iPhone and Watch, and they didn't want additional distraction), but I don't expect they'll be updating the AppleTV itself in any appreciable way - we're getting a new major OS update for it this coming Tuesday, and the hardware is pretty solid as it stands (if you're hoping for 4K or HDR, that's probably at least a year or two out).

The next major thing that Apple would love to unveil for the AppleTV is some sort of subscription service (on the current hardware), but that depends entirely on the content providers agreeing, and they've been reluctant (the leaks about "Eddy Cue doesn't even wear a suit! The nerve!" was the media companies trying to sway opinion in their favor). In the meantime, we might get the combined search/schedule thingy that was discussed recently - perhaps that could show up at next month's presentation.
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Does Hey Siri work with the new iPhone app? In other words can I now be in the kitchen and just yell at my iPhone to change the channel from CNN to ESPN live?
Talking to Siri on the phone does things on the phone ("open CNN" gets the phone's CNN app, and if I try variations on "open CNN on my Apple TV", Siri doesn't know what I'm talking about). The Remote app on the phone can control Siri for the TV, but you have to press an on-screen microphone button to get there.
 
The iPhone 7 keynote just passed with no mention of the AppleTV update or the Remote app update.
Will there be a Apple TV event soon or will these updates come with fanfare ?

The tvOS update has to be sometime this month because they just released the GM. Probably the 13th or 20th.
 
The tea leaves say the next event will likely be Macs & iPads, in about a month (sooner and it interrupts press coverage of iPhones, later and it gets too late for the holiday buying season). It would not be unreasonable to see a few minutes spent on the AppleTV there (this last event was a pretty full ticket, with the iPhone and Watch, and they didn't want additional distraction), but I don't expect they'll be updating the AppleTV itself in any appreciable way - we're getting a new major OS update for it this coming Tuesday, and the hardware is pretty solid as it stands (if you're hoping for 4K or HDR, that's probably at least a year or two out).

The next major thing that Apple would love to unveil for the AppleTV is some sort of subscription service (on the current hardware), but that depends entirely on the content providers agreeing, and they've been reluctant (the leaks about "Eddy Cue doesn't even wear a suit! The nerve!" was the media companies trying to sway opinion in their favor). In the meantime, we might get the combined search/schedule thingy that was discussed recently - perhaps that could show up at next month's presentation.
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Talking to Siri on the phone does things on the phone ("open CNN" gets the phone's CNN app, and if I try variations on "open CNN on my Apple TV", Siri doesn't know what I'm talking about). The Remote app on the phone can control Siri for the TV, but you have to press an on-screen microphone button to get there.

That's too bad. Hey Siri would be sweet on my AppleTV.
 
That's too bad. Hey Siri would be sweet on my AppleTV.
On one hand it'd be cool, on the other, I rather like the idea that the devices are not listening to every word I say.

(My standard for "computer that responds to my voice commands" was, for many years, the computer on the bridge of the Enterprise - as in, "don't bother me with your attempts at voice recognition until it's this good". Siri can sort of almost pull that off some of the time now, though some of her mistakes make me want to throw the phone. That's progress, and I'm really happy that "set an alarm for 7am" works now. Of course, I've moved the goalposts and now what I want is Jarvis. I'll be happy once I can converse with Siri as fluidly as Tony Stark does with Jarvis, circa the first Iron Man movie. Bonus points if she does it with an English accent. Or French.)
 
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