All parties sign NDAs so try not being "shocked" and project pessimism about partnerships nine of you will ever develop.
I think it can support very recent models of cars that have the right types of infotainment systems. Recent cars likely from the list of car makers who pledged support for CarPlay 2.0.Any news regarding Toyota vehicles? Is this update only applicable to upcoming vehicles, or update to current recently sold cars as an update?
Carplay ultra is a flop. It doesn’t really offer much extra value compared to the regular one after so many years of development. Many EV companies have built far superior native experiences. Android automotive is getting traction, and tech companies like Huawei, Xiaomi and even Sony are building their own cars.
Apple needs to build their own car to have true deep software hardware integration. And then they can upgrade CarPlay to be a dumb down version of their CarOS. But with how project Titan went, they probably won’t have the courage to build a car anymore
Because automakers are notorious **** at designing interfaces.Why would an automaker allow Apple to commoditize its in-vehicle experience and own the valuable user data? Sure, a small company like Aston Martin that has a tiny software team would allow it. But manufacturers that produce millions of vehicles per year, and have the in-house software resources needed to provided differentiated experiences... that's entirely different. No need to surrender their business to Apple.
Well I agree, but Volvo has the worst system in Geely group, who has one of the weakest software in Chinahaving Android Automotive in my Volvo I can tell you that it is complete trash, only a margin better than native systems.
How many years was it ago? Things change and evolveFrom a lot of responses saying “of course car companies want to push their own software because of this and that”, why did they allow CarPlay in the first place? How come surveys keep saying CarPlay is a deciding factor for a lot of people in buying a car, yet everyone here thinks CarPlay Ultra is bad and no one will want it?
It seems anything new Apple does (iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch, Vision Pro) is immediately met with hatred here when they haven’t even tried it, rather than give it a chance
Some automakers. I have decided to not buy from themBecause automakers are notorious **** at designing interfaces.
If this is the case, I definitely do not want Carplay Ultra. The last thing I need is for the car to crap out if the car's computer crashes. I'm suppose to pull over and reset/reboot my car? I'm old school. I want buttons and knobs for AC control. I want my windows switch controlled. Old fashion Speedo/Tac gauge works for me. I like the little LED symbols telling me what's happening with my car, except for the helicopter light.Carplay Ultra is DIFFERENT. This software runs on the Car's computer and does not need a phone. It handles things like making the windows go up and down, controlling the aircoditioner and telling you how fast the car is moving and the oil pressure.
I don’t think the original poster is correct. There is a video on YouTube from Top Gear testing out CarPlay Ultra. You definitely need your iPhone with you, CarPlay Ultra is not installed in the car, just integrated when connected. It is also clear from the video that Aston Martin did customise CarPlay Ultra and you still have access to whatever buttons are in the car.If this is the case, I definitely do not want Carplay Ultra. The last thing I need is for the car to crap out if the car's computer crashes. I'm suppose to pull over and reset/reboot my car? I'm old school. I want buttons and knobs for AC control. I want my windows switch controlled. Old fashion Speedo/Tac gauge works for me. I like the little LED symbols telling me what's happening with my car, except for the helicopter light.
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Exactly this.I don’t think the original poster is correct. There is a video on YouTube from Top Gear testing out CarPlay Ultra. You definitely need your iPhone with you, CarPlay Ultra is not installed in the car, just integrated when connected. It is also clear from the video that Aston Martin did customise CarPlay Ultra and you still have access to whatever buttons are in the car.
It’s pretty clear that if you don’t have your iPhone or it dies or something happens to it, the car will default to its own OS. There is no way this was not considered in the development of it. It seems not many people watched this video (which was posted in MacRumors) but feel like they know everything about CarPlay Ultra
That's precious. You don't think there's valuable user data in how you drive your car, where you travel to, what media you consume, on and on.That's not how it works... There's no "valuable user data" to be gained from having control over your air conditioning. There's also no "business" there other than to keep people happy with their cars and to buy more of them.
If they want to sell me a car, it must have Apple CarPlay Ultra.
Earlier this month, Apple announced the launch of CarPlay Ultra, the long-awaited next-generation version of its in-vehicle software system. CarPlay Ultra is currently limited to luxury Aston Martin vehicles in the U.S. and Canada, but Apple said that many other automakers around the world are working to offer it within the next year.
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We asked more than a dozen automakers about their CarPlay Ultra plans, and we have rounded up their responses below. Unfortunately, but perhaps unsurprisingly, most of the companies had little to nothing to say about their future plans, and they may not want to risk upsetting Apple by divulging information prematurely.
Apple's announcement did reveal that Hyundai, along with its Kia and Genesis brands, are among the automakers that are committed to offering CarPlay Ultra. A spokesperson for Hyundai confirmed that the automaker intends to offer CarPlay Ultra, and it plans to share additional information when possible in the future.
A spokesperson for Volvo said that it was one of the committed automakers included in Apple's list when it first announced next-generation CarPlay in June 2022. However, the company did not confirm if it still plans to offer CarPlay Ultra.
That original list from 2022 was as follows:
Porsche previewed its next-generation CarPlay instrument cluster design in late 2023, but the automaker has not provided an update since then.
- Acura
- Audi
- Ford
- Honda
- Infiniti
- Jaguar
- Land Rover
- Lincoln
- Mercedes-Benz
- Nissan
- Polestar
- Porsche
- Renault
- Volvo
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Mercedes-Benz has since expressed a lack of willingness to let Apple essentially take over its software experience, so it may not offer CarPlay Ultra after all.
Porsche and Mercedes-Benz have yet to respond to our inquiries.
Subaru will be assessing CarPlay Ultra for future vehicle models in its lineup, according to a company spokesperson. Mazda offered a vaguer response, with a representative there confirming that the company is always evaluating new technologies to offer the best customer experience, without mentioning CarPlay Ultra specifically.
GM ditched CarPlay in its new EVs, so it is hard to see the automaker adopting CarPlay Ultra across its brands like Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, and Cadillac.
A spokesperson for Ford declined to comment, while other automakers like BMW, GM, and Toyota have yet to respond to our inquiries.
A spokesperson for Honda said the automaker was among the first to offer regular CarPlay, as it values the technology and the customer's in-car user experience. However, it had nothing to announce about CarPlay Ultra at this time.
As the title of this article made clear, these responses do not amount to very much. Most automakers offered non-answers, or sideways answers at best, which aligns with Apple's culture of secrecy. But, we wanted to share what we heard.
CarPlay Ultra features deep integration with a vehicle's instrument cluster and systems, built-in Radio and Climate apps, customizable widgets, and more. The interface is tailored to each vehicle model and automaker's identity, and drivers can also adjust the color scheme. To learn more, read our coverage of Apple's announcement.
Article Link: Here's What Automakers Told Us About CarPlay Ultra (Not Very Much)
They dont lose any data given Apple is tying into APIs on the onboard computers.Why would an automaker allow Apple to commoditize its in-vehicle experience and own the valuable user data? Sure, a small company like Aston Martin that has a tiny software team would allow it. But manufacturers that produce millions of vehicles per year, and have the in-house software resources needed to provided differentiated experiences... that's entirely different. No need to surrender their business to Apple.
That's not true. Apple requires the data as a condition of creating the experience. Also, if Apple's interface is replacing the other services with CarPlay (standard) including navigation, media, etc. the automaker misses out on that data entirely.They dont lose any data given Apple is tying into APIs on the onboard computers.
Apple isnt, for example, taking over the actual speedometer, just its UI.
That said one of the first things I’m doing when I buy a new car this year is pulling the fuse for the onboard network connections, I dont *want* to give ford my data (on ford specifically I will say I appreciate that they break out that fuse and the car is fine with it pulled, it makes it easier to disable than, say, GM)
All of those things are already true for og carplay. Apple gets more data also, sure, with ultra, but the car companies arent losing anything they would have had with the customer already using regular carplayThat's not true. Apple requires the data as a condition of creating the experience. Also, if Apple's interface is replacing the other services with CarPlay (standard) including navigation, media, etc. the automaker misses out on that data entirely.
This only becomes more important as in-vehicle experiences become driven by AI going forward. Automakers and Apple know that.