Here's When Tesla is Expected to Add Support for Apple CarPlay

[batman75]

I think anyone who is so blown away by Tesla's software probably came from a car with no tech like a 2019 Toyota Camry. It is a really ignorant point of view which suggests limited awareness of vastly better products.

If it was as good as you people think they wouldn't be hemorrhaging EV market share like they are.

 

[Reason077]

I actually wonder how many folks that complain about phantom braking are still using v11 stack (or are not in the US). Phantom braking isn't really a thing when using the FSD stack (AP and TACC are still V11).

Yeah, pretty sure the vast majority of Tesla drivers globally have not paid for FSD (supervised). In many countries it's just not available, or only available on vehicles with the V4 FSD hardware.

On the latest Model Y's, you can't even switch between TACC and AP without stopping and going into the menus to change a configuration setting: the old one-tap for TACC, two taps for AP is gone. Which around here, effectively means you can't use AP at all since it's inappropriate for many roads, but TACC is essential.

With Tesla offering FSD (supervised) as a monthly subscription now, it's tempting to try it, but I fear if there's no ability to switch between TACC and FSD while driving it also won't get used (and if TACC still uses v11 as you say, there's no improvement to TACC by subscribing to FSD?)

 

[Reason077]

I think anyone who is so blown away by Tesla's software probably came from a car with no tech like a 2019 Toyota Camry. It is a really ignorant point of view which suggests limited awareness of vastly better products.

I've driven a lot of late-model EVs. Audi, Hyundai, Polestar, BYD, etc. Tesla's software (and infotainment hardware itself) is still significantly better than most modern car brands being sold in 2025. In fact, I'd say most (not all) of the competition doesn't even come close.

If it was as good as you people think they wouldn't be hemorrhaging EV market share like they are.

There are plenty of reasons why Tesla is losing market share lately, but having poor software is definitely not one of them.

 

[batman75]

I've driven a lot of EVs. Tesla's software (and infotainment hardware itself) is still significantly better than most modern car brands being sold in 2025. In fact, I'd say most (not all) of the competition doesn't even come close.



There are plenty of reasons why Tesla is losing market share lately, but having poor software is definitely not one of them.

It is because we know people who dont buy the car because of lack of CarPlay. That is in the category of reasons called "poor software".

BTW The autopilot also falls into this category due to the ramifications of not having redundant sensors, being prone to errors, and the fact that they lock people out of features due to false triage of whether the driver is "in control" of the vehicle.

It's a buggy product which is another way of saying "poor software".

I would say most EVs are better than Tesla's and that's why they are losing so much market share. Without a CEO change and a major rethink of their product strategy in a more customer centric way, they are doomed.

 

[strixton]

Was in a BYD taxi last week, love how it had Waze via android auto....the Tesla navigation doesn't zoom in and stay. Also Waze has saved me £££ and my licence by warning me via the community that a camera van is parked just around the corner, or an accident has just happened, or obstacle in the road etc...

Am guessing Carplay will occupy a section of the screen allowing you to use both the benefits of carplay and benefits of the existing system.

Bring it on.

 

[I7guy]

Assuming this isn’t bogus the holiday update would be a great time to deliver this.

 

[I7guy]

It is because we know people who dont buy the car because of lack of CarPlay. That is in the category of reasons called "poor software".

BTW The autopilot also falls into this category due to the ramifications of not having redundant sensors, being prone to errors, and the fact that they lock people out of features due to false triage of whether the driver is "in control" of the vehicle.

It's a buggy product which is another way of saying "poor software".

I would say most EVs are better than Tesla's and that's why they are losing so much market share. Without a CEO change and a major rethink of their product strategy in a more customer centric way, they are doomed.

Tesla shot for the stars and hit the moon. Most other ev makers don’t get out of the atmosphere.

When you say most other evs are “better” than tesla I put “better” in quotes as this is purely subjective.

Tesla software is significantly better than many other automotive softwares out there. You took a few items, generalized it and another name is hyperbole.

And by the way Tesla is losing market share to the rav4.

 

[RobertCraigWils]

Threaded Group Messages.

 

[diamond.g]

Yeah, pretty sure the vast majority of Tesla drivers globally have not paid for FSD (supervised). In many countries it's just not available, or only available on vehicles with the V4 FSD hardware.

On the latest Model Y's, you can't even switch between TACC and AP without stopping and going into the menus to change a configuration setting: the old one-tap for TACC, two taps for AP is gone. Which around here, effectively means you can't use AP at all since it's inappropriate for many roads, but TACC is essential.

With Tesla offering FSD (supervised) as a monthly subscription now, it's tempting to try it, but I fear if there's no ability to switch between TACC and FSD while driving it also won't get used (and if TACC still uses v11 as you say, there's no improvement to TACC by subscribing to FSD?)

You can switch down while driving but not up without being in park. By down I mean you can go from FSD to AP to TACC while in drive.

AP and TACC are still on the many year old V11 stack. When V14 dropped we thought it was going to get upgraded to using the same NN FSD uses minus the taking turns in the city part, but that seems to not have happened.

 

[batman75]

Tesla shot for the stars and hit the moon. Most other ev makers don’t get out of the atmosphere.

When you say most other evs are “better” than tesla I put “better” in quotes as this is purely subjective.

Tesla software is significantly better than many other automotive softwares out there. You took a few items, generalized it and another name is hyperbole.

And by the way Tesla is losing market share to the rav4.

They shot for the stars and hit the moon. And then they stayed on the moon while everyone else is half way to Mars.


Teslas future is they will be a component supplier and a self driving software vendor. I don't see them surviving as a car manufacturer without a significant pivot.

 

[I7guy]

They shot for the stars and hit the moon. And then they stayed on the moon while everyone else is half way to Mars.

No they already made it to mars.

Teslas future is they will be a component supplier and a self driving software vendor. I don't see them surviving as a car manufacturer without a significant pivot.

Ok. Tesla is doomed. Similar to Apple in 2011.

 

[I7guy]

I think anyone who is so blown away by Tesla's software probably came from a car with no tech like a 2019 Toyota Camry. It is a really ignorant point of view which suggests limited awareness of vastly better products.

If it was as good as you people think they wouldn't be hemorrhaging EV market share like they are.

As opposed to ford, which is considering canceling their f150 ev? There ight be a definitional difference with the word “hemorrhaging”. Anyway negative Tesla posts are without much substance.

 

[b.la]

?, mic button and "call Xxx" , and messaging? really? you're writing sms while driving....?

Yes, the whole point of having messaging capability in your vehicle is to be able to send and respond to messages while driving. In the Tesla, it is very distracting, with CarPlay, it is much more sophisticated and safe.

 

[b.la]

Not who you’re responding to, but I use both. For calls, Tesla’s isn’t bad, but I prefer CarPlay because my favorites are front and center and the car’s voice recognition doesn’t work well for me. (Don’t help my wife name is an uncommon, but similar sounding to a common name. It’s always a 50/50 shot if I call my wife or a coworker when I ask the car).

For messages, I get a lot. I have the car read them to me. If it’s a message from a single person, Tesla’s system works great (although again, voice recognition isn’t great for me). But it completely falls on its face with group messages. Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but it never tells me if it’s a group message or not (just “Person A wrote”, did they send that to me directly or in a group message? Tesla has no idea) and there is literally no way to respond to a group message though the car without picking up the phone, which is obviously not safe.

Don’t get me wrong; Tesla’s system is absolutely better than any other car manufacturer. It’s legitimately great. But calling and messaging is, in my opinion, definitely better in CarPlay. So I’ll handle calls and texts (and third party apps) via CarPlay and everything else via Tesla. Best of both worlds!

I agree, don’t forget the Tesla doesn’t allow you to receive or respond to messages outside of texts. No WhatsApp, teams, Webex, nothing.

 

[1rottenapple]

This is what I needed to do to gain CarPlay functionality. I would be grateful to have CarPlay in the main display. The display is a little buggy so en OEM solution from tesla with software updates would be a game changer.

 

[Reason077]

I would kill to have CarPlay in the main display.

Please, you don't need to kill anyone. It's coming soon!

 

[1rottenapple]

Please, you don't need to kill anyone. It's coming soon!

edited it

 

[mcled53]

Given how good Tesla's own system is, I find it hard to believe anyone thinking carplay is actually better. Outside of someone being hooked to specific apps they need carplay for, Tesla's native system is by far superior. at doing all the important things you need to do in a vehicle.

So you have never driven a car with CarPlay? It's all about personal choice. I've driven both and I perfer CarPlay.

 

[Nekronos]

So you have never driven a car with CarPlay? It's all about personal choice. I've driven both and I perfer CarPlay.

Setting aside your bad faith question, having a preference is one thing, claiming something is better another.

For vehicles that do not require much interaction with a main display for vehicle control - carplay is likely as good if not better in those instances - this would apply to many older vehicles and even some newish ones, usually cheaper models or vehicle lines, that have antiquated systems.

For vehicles that have robust systems/infotainments such as a modern Tesla, Rivian, Mercedes, BMW (likely a few others) and thereby have a lot of functionality that necessitates engaging with through native control - carplay tends to be objectively worse. That's not to say that carplay can't do anything better but that it is overall worse and leads to a subpar driving experience in those kind of vehicles.

 

[1rottenapple]

Setting aside your bad faith question, having a preference is one thing, claiming something is better another.

For vehicles that do not require much interaction with a main display for vehicle control - carplay is likely as good if not better in those instances - this would apply to many older vehicles and even some newish ones, usually cheaper models or vehicle lines, that have antiquated systems.

For vehicles that have robust systems/infotainments such as a modern Tesla, Rivian, Mercedes, BMW (likely a few others) and thereby have a lot of functionality that necessitates engaging with through native control - carplay tends to be objectively worse. That's not to say that carplay can't do anything better but that it is overall worse and leads to a subpar driving experience in those kind of vehicles.

Having a tesla since 2019 i disagree lol I prefer CarPlay

And at the end of the day it's an option we will be able to choose. If you don't like it don't use it.

My Jeep has CarPlay and I LOVE IT. Its so nice to browse my music from my phone on there or use my podcast. Hence why I installed a CarPlay display on my tesla. Yes you can get apple podcast on a tesla screen but that require premium $10 connection and frankly I am subscription-out. its annoying and I don't want to pay. I already have a **** ton of subscription it's another recurring bill I want to avoid. Yes it's $10, no it won't break the bank nor would I notice it, but I don't want to pay for it.

I don't want to pay spotify or apple music to have on my tesla screen when I listen to the same songs I listen to that I already own and my library is huge.

So I really hope the tesla CarPlay add on will be in this year holiday update.

 

[Nekronos]

Having a tesla since 2019 i disagree lol I prefer CarPlay

And at the end of the day it's an option we will be able to choose. If you don't like it don't use it.

My Jeep has CarPlay and I LOVE IT. Its so nice to browse my music from my phone on there or use my podcast. Hence why I installed a CarPlay display on my tesla. Yes you can get apple podcast on a tesla screen but that require premium $10 connection and frankly I am subscription-out. its annoying and I don't want to pay. I already have a **** ton of subscription it's another recurring bill I want to avoid. Yes it's $10, no it won't break the bank nor would I notice it, but I don't want to pay for it.

I don't want to pay spotify or apple music to have on my tesla screen when I listen to the same songs I listen to that I already own and my library is huge.

So I really hope the tesla CarPlay add on will be in this year holiday update.

Vehicle subscriptions like that are primarily paying for the data service itself i.e. that enables tesla's sentry mode.

I see the appeal of using your existing phone's data plan but I prefer a seamless experience in my vehicle with the upside of not heating and draining my phone's battery. Also with EVs, using the native system is better for battery conditioning/optimization. There isn't anything specific I need carplay for that my vehicle can't do.

Wanting to use the song library saved locally to your phone doesn't require carplay.

 

[1rottenapple]

Vehicle subscriptions like that are primarily paying for the data service itself i.e. that enables tesla's sentry mode.

I see the appeal of using your existing phone's data plan but I prefer a seamless experience in my vehicle with the upside of not heating and draining my phone's battery. Also with EVs, using the native system is better for battery conditioning/optimization. There isn't anything specific I need carplay for that my vehicle can't do.

Wanting to use the song library saved locally to your phone doesn't require carplay.

Dude I think you have no idea what you are talking about. Stop the chatgpt ish-posting lol having driven my model 3 prior to the addition of dog mode or sentry mode I think I know what you talking about.

Sure.. hahaha yah. lol what ever