I’m not saying USB-C is bad, I’m saying mandating the connector into law is stupid. Who is going to invest then tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a new port when they have to get it approved after the fact by a regulator who has already shown an unwillingness to change the standard of other “required” connectors when a better one comes along. No one - so innovation stops. Because regulators who couldn’t get hired to answer the phones at a tech firm think they know better than engineers.You act like there can't be a small bump for the charging port if phones actually get that thin, that phones without wired charging are required to have a USB-C port (when they're not), that alternatives like lightning (which isn't much smaller) don't have performance limitations when they do (the pin count on a lightning connector means it maxes out at USB 3.0 speeds), and that the EU doesn't have provisions for updating the standard if the need to becomes evident (they do).
In terms of capabilities, no phones are anywhere close to touching the ceiling of USB-C (currently 240W and 40/80 Gbps depending on the implementation). There's no innovation being blocked here, and even without EU regulation, USB-C would be the wired standard for a long time to come (just like USB A before it). If a company does develop a revolutionary port so much smaller and more capable that this standard should be revisited; they could put it beside the USB-C port to prove its worthiness since (as described) it would take up hardly any space...
Laughable! How is Apple stopping real innovation with their hardware and software choices? They’re not - Android exists, other phone manufacturers exist - and all of them would love to make a must-have feature the iPhone doesn’t support.Apple blocks a lot more real innovation through their hardware choices, OS and app restrictions than any imaginary innovation "blocked" by the EU.
And wireless syncing is markedly less reliable than wired syncs.Wireless syncing is markedly slower than wired syncs.
I’m not saying USB-C is bad, I’m saying mandating the connector into law is stupid. Who is going to invest then tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a new standard when they have to get it approved after the fact? No one - so innovation stops.
Remember the EU tried to mandate micro-USB. MICRO-USB! Anyone who knows that and still thinks the EU mandating a charging port is a good idea needs to have their head examined.
Laughable! How is Apple stopping real innovation with the hardware and software choices? They’re not - Android exists, other phone manufacturers exist - and all of them would love to make a must-have feature the iPhone doesn’t support
Wireless is garbage for large file transfers over AirDrop. If it worked reliably for large files, I'd be more okay with the move. As it is now, I have to use an online storage service to move anything larger than a gig between devices. I have been submitting feedback to Apple for every iOS and iPadOS beta to allow wired transfers to the Files app. It's ridiculous that you currently can't do that, especially when iPads support Thunderbolt and iPhones support USB3.I can count the number of times my iPhone 16 has been plugged in on one hand. People here complaining about file transfer speed? I bet saying 5% of iPhones transfer data via a cable is widely over-estimating it. I suspect most people would be fine if Apple threw a MagSafe charger in the box (which they probably will, whenever this gets released, at least for the first go-around).
I’m not suggesting a portless phone is a good idea, but because of the EU’s idiotic decision to dictate what port phones are allowed to use, portless phones are coming. We’ve already seen phones that are as thick as the USB-C port and the regulation hasn’t even been in effect for a year. So if there’s not going to be micro USB-C because the EU thinks it knows better than the Apples and Samsungs of the world, then portless phones will be the solution.
I don't see any major value of wireless charging, especially it is heavier, hotter, a lot more expensive, and still need a cable.
Over the years, there have been rumors suggesting that Apple eventually wants to make an iPhone without any ports, allowing for a completely wireless charging experience. An iPhone without ports has been speculated about, and Apple has even published patents for an all-glass iPhone with no ports or buttons.
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Apple apparently considered making its dream a reality with the upcoming iPhone 17 Air, but ultimately decided not to do so. In his latest Power On newsletter, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman says that one of Apple's ideas for the iPhone 17 Air was to design it without a USB-C port, which means it would only charge via MagSafe.
Apple did not end up going in that direction, because there were internal concerns that eliminating the USB-C port in the iPhone 17 Air would get the company in trouble with regulators in the European Union.
With the iPhone 15 lineup, Apple transitioned away from Lightning and adopted USB-C for iPhones because of an EU law that passed in 2022. The law requires technology companies to use a "common port," aka USB-C, for charging purposes. Technically, the law only applies in the European Union, but it was easier for Apple to make the change worldwide than to develop a special USB-C iPhone in Europe and continue using Lightning elsewhere.
Along with potentially angering the European regulators, getting rid of the charging port on an iPhone entirely would undoubtedly upset customers. When Apple eliminated the headphone jack from the iPhone 7, there was a lot of pushback from iPhone users, and other smartphone brands like Samsung spent plenty of time making fun of Apple's choice before ultimately following Apple's lead and removing headphone jacks from Android smartphones.
The iPhone 16 models now support MagSafe charging at up to 25W, and can fast charge with MagSafe and a 30W power adapter. Fast charging allows an iPhone to charge to 50 percent in 30 minutes, and the faster MagSafe charging puts wireless charging on par with fast charging over USB-C. With fast charging available with MagSafe, there wouldn't be a downside to eliminating the USB-C port in terms of speed, but there would be far less flexibility because USB-C chargers and cables have become so universal.
Though Apple isn't adopting a port-free design for the iPhone 17 Air, it's not an idea the company is abandoning. If the new super thin iPhone sells well, Apple will revisit portless iPhones and slim down the rest of the iPhone lineup, too.
Article Link: Here's Why Apple Hasn't Made a Portless iPhone
who is wirelessly charging gigantic car batteries?Of course Apple will go to portless / totally wireless eventually. As soon as they think it's feasible. That has been Apple's trajectory over the decades. Always first to abandon something that's on its way out but has an adequate modern substitute. And almost always, after a lot of whining and mocking, the entire industry quickly follows.
My guess is that Apple has engineers working furiously on getting data transfer to be wicked fast and reliable, even if it means building a new chip or architecture to assist. Because as several here pointed out, that's a remaining weakness and barrier to going fully wireless / portless.
Wireless is the future. Look how far it has come, to where we are wirelessly handling individual 4K movie streams without even thinking about it. Wirelessly charging batteries, even gigantic car batteries. Wireless extreme fidelity for live music and Hollywood film production. When they figure out wireless energy transmission at rates powerful enough to run lightbulbs at a distance, the world will be a whole different place.
But of course one thing will never change: there will always be a cadre of grumpy geezers complaining about whatever it is.![]()
There are a number of places trying and working on inductive charging...who is wirelessly charging gigantic car batteries?
The EU has nothing to do with it. The law explicitly says that if a device only charges wirelessly then (of course) there’s no requirement to charge with USB-C.
It would also eliminate A LOT potential buyers. In general. This is not like not having a headphone jack. They know that and that's the reason.It would also eliminate any potential buyers that need wired CarPlay.
True! People who write this articles are misinforming people.Absolutly BS - its only if you have a Chargnig port.
The EU law (Directive 2022/2380) mandates a common charging port only if a device has a physical charging port. It does not require companies to include a port if they opt for wireless charging instead.
if it was then what about my toothbrush, it has wireless only, and my robot lawnmower it has a normal contact switch charging, and same for my robot vacuum cleaner
- Apple Watch – No USB-C, only charges wirelessly.
- Samsung Galaxy Watch – Same, wireless charging only.