Of course not, which will be very nice as far as fragmentation of the standard goes.
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Of course not, which will be very nice as far as fragmentation of the standard goes.
I just went from USB 2.0 to FW 800 and I am happy with that, it will be a while before TB makes it worth the upgrade, also those devices will be much more expensive I am sure of it.
Right. And Apple's decision to refuse to put Blu-Ray drives in their computers is a vastly different scenario.
Not so. Most high-end PC graphics cards are shipping with either DisplayPort or Mini DisplayPort among their connectors.
Max Resolution
Display Port 1.2 = 3840x2400 = 9,216,000 pixels
HDMI 1.4a = 4096*2160 = 8,847,360 pixels
Display Port has ~4% higher resolution at over twice the frequency
Can you really not comprehend this? 3840x2400>4096x2160
I really did not think I had to explicitly show the math....
That table you are looking at in the wiki article for display port is not one of max resolution, but one of
Before you cite a number, it helps to understand what the number is referring to
The max resolution for display port can be found in my previous links and countless others on the web and you will find it is 3840x2400 across the board
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4 2.5 Mbps lines
Maybe after the turtlenecked one is gone.
Ummm - you've missed the part that TBolt isn't "Display Port 1.2"....
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Before too long most technical folks (but almost no one on MacRumours) will realize that combining an old version of Disply Port with an effectively proprietary Display Port connector was a mistake.
Sony's innovation will establish the market, and Apple will sell a $199 dongle to connect mass market TBolt peripherals to Apple computers.
I don't understand why Intel haven't specified a standard connection for Thunderbolt?
Yea, I didn't miss that part. I was addressing the claim that hdmi provided higher resolution than display port, when it doesn't
Why TB utilizes an older spec of display port, I am not quite sure.
I don't understand why Intel haven't specified a standard connection for Thunderbolt?
Maybe some launch partner had a hidden agenda to promote a mostly proprietary Display Port connector?
Compared to the older spec of Display Port used in TBolt, HDMI does provide higher resolution.
We are talking about TBolt here, not some other theoretical port.
You can't even buy a TBolt peripheral yet, but Apple's design has already crippled Display Port. Bad idea.
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Apple made it free if you don't sue them for patent infringement over it. Mini Displayport is all over graphics cards and laptops.
Correct, this thread is about TB...but as you know, threads do go off on tangents and mosx was adament about HDMI supporting higher resolutions than display port. I merely pointed out that was not the case.
I imagine that TB will support the latest display port spec in due time as well
I will say I am slightly disappointed with these new ports in relative short time span.
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A quick check of Newegg shows at least 10x as many non-MDP graphics cards as other ports (standard DP, HDMI, DVI, ...). I didn't see any MDP-only cards.
I also didn't find *any* MDP equipped laptops in several minutes of checking (of course, I didn't check fruit-flavored laptops).
Please define "all over" and support the argument. They're out there, but it's a rare niche at the moment.
Oh yes, Your video card is "sexy"... Gee, you're so special and important!!
I hope some day I can feel real special because I own a video card!
But here's the one that actually sells:
And your laptop also has VGA and HDMI ports....
You're on an Apple message board complaining about appreciating the aesthetic value of electronics? Seriously?
I know, God you ought to see my new lawn tractor. I don't know how well it cuts grass, but it's so elegant and looks delicious sitting in my garage!
And don't even get me started on my sexy, magical, and elegant chain saw!
Not forgetting of course that most HDMI ports out there are HDMI 1.3a with a max res of 1920x1080@60Hz. I've only seen 1.4 ports on graphics cards thus far (along side a dual-link DVI port and 2 or more mini-displayports, using the back of my Radeon 6970 in my PC as an example)
"Sam" (John Deer CEO Samuel R. Allen) is supposed to announce a new model next month. I wonder if there will be a webcast of the keynote (I mean how could you possibly introduce a new lawn tractor without 1,000 screaming JD Fans in attendance). I'm so excited, I probably will call off work to watch the unavailing of the new tractor. Rumor is that besides green, it may also be offered in white (OMG OMG OMG)!!!.
My neighbor is a Ursus sufferer and he likes that Crappy and junky C360. Too bad he's too poor to buy a Deer!! hahahahahaha
Your analogy is completely ridiculous. If you were talking about the computer's battery using some new tech that wont be available for 4 years, then your analogy would fit. I'd say it's more like adding a thunderbolt port to said car. Yes, perfect analogy. The car still runs, but it's prepared for the future.
The discrete graphics chips in the MBPs support 4 or 6 displays.
If they had a DP 1.2 connector you could hook up 2x 30" 2D monitors, or 1x 30" 3D monitor.
Thunderbolt crippled the 2011 MBPs and iMacs.
But from what others have said in this thread (and from my own digging around) no MBP or iMac has supported DP1.2, regardless of what the discrete GPU supports. So it's not crippled so much as not enhanced, either in the 2011 release or in the 2009 and 2010 releases.
Previous MBPs and iMacs did not have DP 1.2 graphics chips, so they were not crippled.
The new ones are crippled.
Not enough bandwidth to support current version?
When display pipe needs to be fattest by far, I don't get the idea to share it with other data.
Maybe someone in Infiny Loop bought the argument: "XXX will be enough for everyone".
This time it was: "10 Gbit/s will be enough for all the displays in this world."