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i know first two are common functions in most PDAs, smartphones, so I would be surprised if iPhone won't have them.
 
So you've used a windows mobile PDA phone lately? You've browsed the web on it with 3G? What use are bookmarks? It's an html browser! Oh, can't wait to see what it's like photo browsing thousands of photos on the iphone. But browsing a decent collection of photos on a windows phone works great, esp with a 400mhz processor built in. Thousands of programs are also available for it already, how many for the iPhone?

Don't get me wrong, I still think it's cool. But man, you make it out to sound like the second coming of Christ and you've yet to see one in person.

Yet another one who misses the point. Who gives a sh*t if Windows Mobile has this or that feature; the iPhone is not about the features, but HOW they are implemented. I use WM on a fairly regular basis, and the UI SUCKS. This is why the iPhone will likely be a success.
 
One more thing....

I also forgot to mention that in the calendar image you guys didn't realize that the icon that you don't understand is really a button saying "Today" Just like we have the little middle button in iCal calendar

Again, clicking the following link, you can find some pics that i created so you can all see what i am talking about.

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0251962501/iphone/today.jpg
 
is the only way to lock the phone via putting it to sleep and waking it back up? seems like there should be a lock button somewhere, but steve made it sound like there wasn't...

Well the sample iPhone on the http://www.apple.com/ front page has this "slide to unlock" thing that suggests you'd have to slide your finger across the width of the iPhone's touch screen to unlock it. Something that would be hard to do accidentally while its in your pocket.
 
Ringtones are short!

I'm going to be optimistic about ringtones and say it's not going to be a separate kind of media to be sold. It's just that ringtones are short. You don't need a five minute tune for a ring. And as most people who make MP3 ringtones know, the beginning part of a tune isn't usually the best part to use for a ring. So you need to specify a chunk of a tune for each ringtone.

So I expect you will want a separate list of ringtones, short segments taken from regular tunes. I'll guess that iTunes will let you select part of any tune to use as a ringtone. It might be a list of tunes from your library, with starting points and durations. It think that's more likely than copying a chunk of a DRM'ed tune for a separate DRM'ed rintone file. The tab might have a little facility for isolating and previewing the part of the tune you want for your tones. It might be set up like the loops in Garageband. It might even accept such loop files. Nice!

I expect the store will sell short tunes expecially made for ringtones, at the standard $.99, but I also expect you can also use a chunk of any tune in your library.
 
I don't like the touchscreen lock feature. I've always loved having the ability to unlock/lock my ipods when they were in my pocket. With the iPhone it seems like it would be hard to lock/unlock it while it's in the pocket.
 
None of this was glossed over in my book. People that think it's just an apple branded smartphone need to go back and watch the Keynote. This thing is the most advance iPod to date. Amazing iPod! Can anyone's iPod do cover flow? And as far as a phone goes, how many of you can surf through your voicemails on the screen, in any order? Answer, none of you. Who has an actual web browser? Who has iPhoto basically built in? Have you folks looked at the split screen scrolling email? Same with the address book. People are just reading the specs and are like... uh, my treo has that or blackberry, or whatever. From what I've seen and used, they aren't the same. This thing is a sort of paradigm shift. Kinda like how the macintosh changed our way of thinking of computer interfaces and purposes, this thing may very well reshape our idea of a mobile phone/communication device. There were mp3 players before the iPod, but do they matter anymore? Not really. Even if it just sparks competitive innovation an copies (which it already has) then it's an important part of history.

I couldn't agree with you more! And, incidentally, I looked back at the original posts to this site when the iPod was introduced. It's a fun exercise. You'll see how many of the posts thought it was too late, too expensive, and was just like all the other players on the market at the time!
 
I use WM on a fairly regular basis, and the UI SUCKS. This is why the iPhone will likely be a success.

You are so right! I can't tell you how many times I've been tempted to throw my Treo 700w out the window because I pressed the wrong button. Bring on the iPhone!
 
Or, if it has to go over the store, you could create your own ringtone, build up a record label, get involved with Apple and let them get your ringtone over the iTunes store.
It's not unimaginably difficult...

http://www.apple.com/itunes/musicmarketing/faq.html


You don't need a five minute tune for a ring. And as most people who make MP3 ringtones know, the beginning part of a tune isn't usually the best part to use for a ring. So you need to specify a chunk of a tune for each ringtone.
Even in iTunes, it's very easy to tell a song to start playing from other than the beginning.

Setting a ringtone could be as easy as picking any song from your library, then picking the offset to start from. I wouldn't put it past Apple to even have an auto-offset, that scans the song and starts playing the ringtone at a loud part.

:D
 
is the only way to lock the phone via putting it to sleep and waking it back up? seems like there should be a lock button somewhere, but steve made it sound like there wasn't...

Maybe you just shake it?

;)
 
what would be really nice is if the contacts menu had a cover flow feature... so for kicks, you could scroll through your caller id pictures like album art, tap one to call them.... hmmmm..

We actually have something like that on Windows Mobile in Pocket Informant. Granted its not as fancy as CoverFlow (most WinMobile devices don't have the CPU/graphics to do something like CoverFlow) but its similar.
 
You know, I can sync all this stuff with my Motorola 551 flip phone. But I don't care, because it's crap.

EXACTLY!

I had Sanyo multimedia 6400 from Sprint (pronounce Devil) and have RAZR phone from T-mobile. Both pieces of **** in terms of usage. With RAZR, the phonebook is the most atrocious I had ever seen on a phone. Even after spending a lot of time, I could not figure out how to put icons behind home, work, etc numbers. so used my mac to build the address book and transfer to phone. so got those icons, however, now I see duplicate entries for many phone numbers and also the multiple entries. why couldn't they group one contacts phones together!:mad: it is so difficult to scroll thru. Does anybody here know how to set that right? Sorry this got little off-topic. But this is what i hate in the current phones. Sanyo phone looked great at screen and outlooks but completely useless functions. RAZR great from slim phone perspective but hardly useful UI. One thing is extremely good in these phones and rest all features difficult to the point of being useless and crap. So i will get iPhone at the end of this year. Hail iPhone! ;)
 
These were some pretty interesting things I hadn't noticed before. They're not exactly groundbreaking discoveries, but they're good things to know.
 
In response to the "Ringtone Store" on iTunes as described in the video.

Movies: $9.99 to $14.99
Games: $4.99
T.V. Shows: $1.99
Songs: $0.99
Free 30-second song demos: $0.00
Ringtones: $?.??

My point is if Apple lets people play 30-second demos of any song as many times as they wish, the only logical solutions for ringtones on the iPhone are free 30-second ringtones, like the demos they have in the store, or, selecting a clip of any song, of any length to be a ringtone. Most services charge $2.00 per ringtone. Apple can't do that because nobody wants a 30-second ringtone for $2.00 when you can get the whole song for $0.99. I could also understand $0.49 ringtones because they're cheaper that the whole song. For the "Ringtones" tab in iTunes, that could be so users can select the right clip of their songs for ringtones to sync as ringtones.
 
In Google Maps, about the "I can't make out the icon in the bottom-left corner".
This is just my opinion.
Maybe its a fork and knife logo for restaurants. Just a guess.
 
Voice? in Calendar screen

Any chance the button on the top left says voice?

It would be a really efficient mechanism for a todo especially if you were pressed for time and did not want to type it. The ultimate would then have the phone translate it to text like some of the services that are already out there.

Now that would be a sweet addition!
 
Maybe you just shake it?

;)

Nah, I say it works with the proximity sensor. When you are not in a call and hold the front against something, it could lock itself. This way, when you put it in your pocket, it knows "oh, something is touching the sensor. That does not happen when you use the phone. LOCK" The more I think about it, the more sense it makes. If you want to to lock it intentionally (when you wanna leave it on the table and require a PIN to unlock it), you could just touch the sensor for a second, or simply put the screen face down on your desk.

This is all just specultion, ou could as well double click the home button to lock it (sine 1 click takes you home, and you cant "go home" from home).

Other, less intuitive ways to lock the phone would be pressing a combination of the volume buttons and the home button, an on screen menu where you can select "lock", use the accelerometer (throw the phone high up in the air so it spins very fast) or just a lame timeout.

Steve did in deed not demo how you lock the phone, instead, he switched it on and off (...or did he actually lock it?).

EDIT: There's a "sleep/wake" switch on the top roght of the iPhone. What Steve did was putting it to sleep and waking it up again.
 
Ringtones

Cingular makes way too much money off of ringtones to just have that revenue disappear. It's not so hot that I have to pay for a ringtone of a song I already own but I know that will be the case.

What's funny however is that Cingular charges something like 2 or 3 dollars per tone and iTMS charges .99¢ for a song...it'll be interesting to see how that works out.
 
You raise a very good point, regardless, it's good to find out some new-ish stuff on the iPhone, things were getting a little stale.

Stale? It was only announced six weeks ago!

I don't remember seeing so much rampant and baseless speculation of an unreleased product. It's ridiculous, particularly the hype and hysteria.
 
I don't care about syncing rings with iTunes. I want to be able to create rings in Garageband.

Man, I feel like an idiot. That is such a simple and powerful idea. While composing full songs in Garage Band is fairly hard, composing ring-tone length pieces is easy! Integrating your own voice (or the voice of the caller) is all so easy and fun in Garage Band.

I hope Apple makes this intuitive to do.
 
disruptive business model

Cingular makes way too much money off of ringtones to just have that revenue disappear. .. What's funny however is that Cingular charges something like 2 or 3 dollars per tone and iTMS charges .99¢ for a song.

I think this is a going to be a big issue with Cingular, the owners of the songs, or both. The ringtone business is huge, and to allow purchased songs (or those ripped form your CDs) to become a ringtone will be very disruptive to this multi-billion dollar business segment.
 
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