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Hidden Widgets References in iPhone?

These kind of findings are the things that make me feel like a touch screen iPod isn't coming for awhile. Unless the iPod comes with wifi, half the widgets and apps on the front screen will have no use on the iPod. Is it going to be a giant black screen with one "iPod" button in the middle?

I guess unit conversion and things like that could be somewhat useful, but all this new stuff for the phone makes me fearful for the pod. :confused:
 
donlphi said:
Maybe it is a built in FM transmitting program? Is that even possible considering the guts of the iPHONE?

Listen to your music in your car without hooking it up to some wire.
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They sell those adapters that do this. It would seem like a technological step-back, though, when WiFi and Bluetooth exist. Now we just need Apple to make a car stereo, (and a super battery.)
 
Hmm, if Apple does want to put iChat on the iPhone (clearly a common sense function to include, once working, and rumoured to appear in a future update) then why isn't there an entry for that there? Why remove the iChat entry, but not these others (regardless of whether they are cancelled or incomplete features). I guess it is less sensitive, and with different developers you get different levels of competance at ensuring consistency with shipping builds.

But yes, these seem like nice widgets to have on the phone. Maybe one day there will be an applications screen, and a widgets screen, and you can flick left and right through them (like switching 'tabs' in iPhone Safari). Or a settings feature where you can order your home screen apps.
 
LillieDesigns said:
These kind of findings are the things that make me feel like a touch screen iPod isn't coming for awhile. Unless the iPod comes with wifi, half the widgets and apps on the front screen will have no use on the iPod. Is it going to be a giant black screen with one "iPod" button in the middle?
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No! The main screen will contain icons for all the usual iPod menu options - you know: Music, Photos, Videos, Extras, Playlists, etc.

:)

Rod.
 
donlphi said:
It would be great if it supported XM or Sirius radio (via internet connection). I just downloaded the Sirius radio for OS X and thought it would make an amazing app for the iPhone.

The other listed "UNSUPPORTED APPS" can go away along with the Notes and Clock APP. Absolutely worthless.:p
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Funny, I look at just the other way-- no interest in any sort of Radio, but the Translate, Convert and YellowPages widgets from Dashboard would be really selling points for me. Those first two would be indispensable for anyone who travels.
xelphy said:
Eventually: You could have like 20 apps and u flick it up and down to scroll -- where the mini 'dock' never moves. And I'm sure at some point we'll be able to customize this stuff.
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I suspect we're going to see the iPhone interface behave more like System Preferences. When the icon count starts to get too high, they'll combine stuff to avoid having to hunt through too many icons.
 
Perhaps one or more of these will be revealed in the rumored software update that people have been talking about and saying is on its way since June 30th. Seeing as this update was rumored to be close to happening many weeks ago, I am starting to doubt we are close to any update. I think the first one will probably come with Leopard and include some nice new features including some of these widgets. I personally would like the radio one and the translator. I guess time will tell if these will actually become widgets on the iPhone.
 
Hattig said:
Hmm, if Apple does want to put iChat on the iPhone (clearly a common sense function to include, once working, and rumoured to appear in a future update) then why isn't there an entry for that there?
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As long as AT&T can charge for SMS messages, there will be no iChat. Just as there will be no Skype. The SMS interface is "iChat mobile".

Now, maybe if AT&T realizes they're converting customers over at 40% rate, or whatever it was, they'll decide world domination beats $0.02 per SMS message and things will change.
 
I don't think atts edge network has the bandwdth for web radio - not unless the buffer is 15 seconds. Maybe if att ever rolls out faster edge speeds around 120k/s, well see it.

Also on the ichat note above i think its entirely possible that well see ichat use sms rather than internet.
 
What does iChat have to do with att charging for sms messages? Nothing. Apple simply chose not to include it, that's all.

IM applications are available for other smartphones in att's inventory that rely on internet instead of the sms system. It's not like this would be the first phone on att's network that have free IM.
 
Macrumors said:


Apple has long suggested that new iPhone applications would be coming in the future, with hints that new Google applications would also be arriving for the iPhone.

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I'd love to know what this might mean for iPhone and GrandCentral. I've had a grandcentral account for a few months and Google just bought them a few weeks ago.

If they can be integrated so that my GrandCentral address book, gmail address book, iphone address book and macbook pro address book are all merged and synced (merge gmail address book and grandcentral address book into one "online address book", and then keep that synced with the others) that would be awesome.

What would also be awesome is if iPhone's visual voicemail is somehow merged with GrandCentral's visual voicemail, which can be checked from a web browser.

And finally, it would be awesome if I could make a call that shows up as coming _from_ my universal grandcentral number, as easily as I could from the number assigned to the iphone account, using the iphone.

I eagerly await a native GrandCentral app!
 
krimedog said:
I think we're likely to see an implimentation similar to the iPod feature on the iPhone. Where you can click More (...) and configure which icons YOU want on the home screen.
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Yep, that would work great. Ability to re-order would be nice while they're at it.

LillieDesigns said:
I guess unit conversion and things like that could be somewhat useful, but all this new stuff for the phone makes me fearful for the pod. :confused:
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An iPod could use a touchscreen for.... iPod functions :) Not for Internet and voice stuff, but for music and video. And for those things like Notes and World Clock that iPods already do that don't use a network. Nothing about a touchscreen UI demands Internet.


AidenShaw said:
And those who fail to see why a couple of resource entries makes this a "significant" Mac story. :mad:
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And yet significant enough to post and complain about :D

But I agree, it IS a shame that this minor story bumped down the 3-day old Leopard Dock story. I was still enjoying that one and now I have to scroll :)

poeticfolly said:
We've had this info for a week....
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Thanks for the link. (As the MR article states: "These strings have been known for some time")
 
Radam said:
I hope if they give us more things for the iphone, that we will be able to pick and choose which new ones we want on our phone. because like if someone doesn't use the stock thing but would like the yellow pages, they could replace the stock thing with yellow pages.
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Now you're hitting on something! Mini dashboard interface within iTunes to manage you apps. Great Idea! :)
 
fastbite said:
Mobile radio is overrated. I was one of the ones asking for radio on the ipod -- then the radio adapter came out, I got it and use it twice. Pointless. Maybe on the iphone would be different, but I doubt it.:)
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I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE a freaking radio in the ipod!! I don't care what everyone else says how it doesn't belong in a iPod. I would use it all the time because I am once again sick of my music and would like to listen to the radio. I like to listen to the morning shows on the way into the office. It is a nice change from constantly listen to music and they help keep you up with current events.
 
mrtune said:
What does iChat have to do with att charging for sms messages? Nothing. Apple simply chose not to include it, that's all.

IM applications are available for other smartphones in att's inventory that rely on internet instead of the sms system. It's not like this would be the first phone on att's network that have free IM.
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It seems pretty clear that Apple had to go through some intense negotiations with carriers to enter this market. There appears to have been a lot of give and take. Apple also appears to be getting a percentage of the ongoing revenue stream.

Apple obviously chose not to include iChat, but the question is "why?". It's not like an IM client is particularly hard to do...

I won't be surprised if the uptake and customer conversion rates lead to a change in thinking, but not including a free alternative to a pay service seems like the conservative approach.
 
Macrumors said:
These strings have been known for some time, and may simply represent some left-over widgets from Mac OS X itself. Apple's Mac OS X Dashboard features Phone Book, Translator, and Unit Converter on the standard installation of Mac OS X. This, however, would not easily explain the mobile radio widget reference.
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The easy explanation of mobile radio is that, like the iPod, there will be an AM/FM tuner accessory and the iPhone would provide the interface to change bands and tune stations in.
 
xelphy said:
Question: how does iPhone correlate w/Google's future acquisition of 700mhz band?
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5 years from now when the at&t deal ends there will be no ipod/iphone product line; the two will have merged completely. only those who travel frequently and those in remote areas will need a cell phone contract.

everyone else will get unlimited voice/data/texting for a single monthly price. no minutes, no overage, no funky charges.
 
crees! said:
The easy explanation of mobile radio is that, like the iPod, there will be an AM/FM tuner accessory and the iPhone would provide the interface to change bands and tune stations in.
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I agree, or they may make it compatible with the current Apple FM Radio / Remote which I miss dearly. :(
 
SirOmega said:
I don't think atts edge network has the bandwdth for web radio - not unless the buffer is 15 seconds. Maybe if att ever rolls out faster edge speeds around 120k/s, well see it.

Also on the ichat note above i think its entirely possible that well see ichat use sms rather than internet.
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ATT would have a problem, but the 3G networks in Asia and Europe would be more than adequate for these app's. It is to bad the iphone did not come out on Verizon or another 3G US company. At least we have wifi available on the iphone. :cool:
 
dashiel said:
5 years from now when the at&t deal ends there will be no ipod/iphone product line; the two will have merged completely. only those who travel frequently and those in remote areas will need a cell phone contract.

everyone else will get unlimited voice/data/texting for a single monthly price. no minutes, no overage, no funky charges.
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I thought that would happen when I got my iphone, but I have found I actually prefer seperate devices for music and the rest.
 
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