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These kind of findings are the things that make me feel like a touch screen iPod isn't coming for awhile. Unless the iPod comes with wifi, half the widgets and apps on the front screen will have no use on the iPod. Is it going to be a giant black screen with one "iPod" button in the middle?

I guess unit conversion and things like that could be somewhat useful, but all this new stuff for the phone makes me fearful for the pod. :confused:

Why wouldn't a touch screen iPod just wake up directly in the iPod app? If it's just an iPod then just don't give it a home screen. Not sure why that would be hard.

I think logistical reality is the key driver here. They won't release a touch screen iPod right now because they are using their manufacturing capacity to pump out iPhones, which are very different to iPods. I think the next iPod will be similar to it's current form so it can be made in their current facilities.

I think we'll get one eventually, but not this year. They have a LOT of iPhone launches to do this year. :)

be well

t
 
The other listed "UNSUPPORTED APPS" can go away along with the Notes and Clock APP. Absolutely worthless.:p

Hardly worthless, I use Notes for my grocery list. And the Clock app is my alarm, plus I have family in the Philippines and in Hawaii. If I want to make a call, it's good to know when they are awake.
 
The other listed "UNSUPPORTED APPS" can go away along with the Notes and Clock APP. Absolutely worthless.:p

I think a large percentage of people use the Clock app. I use it daily for my alarm clock and for a stopwatch when I work out. As far as notes go, I could do without it. I think I have only used it once or twice in the month that I have had the phone. I guess it might come in handy if I need to write down a number or something I need but don't want to store on my phone.
 
Hardly worthless, I use Notes for my grocery list. And the Clock app is my alarm, plus I have family in the Philippines and in Hawaii. If I want to make a call, it's good to know when they are awake.

You should check this out...

One Trip Shopping List

I played with it for a run to the supermarket and it works nicely. Apparently can even work when you're offline, but I happened to have a WiFi connection in Kroger so I'm not sure if that works or not.
 
TBH, Apple is turning me off by waiting so long to release a new iPod. I was in line for an iPhone and realized I just couldn't afford it. I bought the first generation Nano as a fill-in until a new large model came out and I've been waiting almost 2 years for a decent replacement.

The only thing I'm surprised with is the other companies not releasing something 100x better than the current iPod. The iPhone has an amazing iPod + all the apps/internet, yet, I have to wait for an affordable option so Apple can release their phone all over the world.

I'm all about Apple products, it's just discouraging when the technology is there and we all know we're waiting due to profit margins. :mad:
 
New revisions of Safari yet?

So back in the weeks before the iPhone was released, there were stories popping up about "a new version of Safari" as the iPhone was being tested. Have any of you web-gurus seen "newer" versions of the iPhone's Safari hitting to indicate that we might be in for an update? This year?

Jim
 
rows of icons

4 apps > 4 icons > 1 free row / 4 free app spaces on iPhone display

But if they ever have more than 16 it would be a problem. They'd have to invent some way of reaching the apps that are off the screen. Some kind of weird "scrolling" thing, probably with and up-arrow and a down-arrow you'd have to press to shift the display.
 
Since when do radios require wifi?

Ever since EDGE was invented. There is no way EDGE could efficiently stream radio. My old Sprint 3G phone could only stream well on EVDO which is much faster than EDGE. Apple will be at the mercy of ATT's slow network with any bandwidth-intensive app.

EDIT: This is, of course, assuming we are referring to streaming radio. AM/FM obviously doesn't rely on a network connection...
 
I, like many others here, am getting sick of this site being dominated by the sodding iPhone.

We have Page 1

We have page 2

I do now think it's time we had Page iPhone.

This isn't sarcasm. I've been visiting this site for many years now. And regardless of my seemingly perpetual 'newbie' status (I was a reader and member long before 2005), I'm starting to feel reluctant to click on my 'macrumors' bookmark because all I'm gonna be reading about is, as good as it might be, a bloody telephone.

I'm not kidding. I've had enough.
 
But if they ever have more than 16 it would be a problem. They'd have to invent some way of reaching the apps that are off the screen. Some kind of weird "scrolling" thing, probably with and up-arrow and a down-arrow you'd have to press to shift the display.

Or flick, the same way everything else on the iPhone scrolls :) And customize what buttons are there, like the iPhone's iPod screen does.

I do now think it's time we had Page iPhone.

This isn't sarcasm. I've been visiting this site for many years now. And regardless of my seemingly perpetual 'newbie' status (I was a reader and member long before 2005), I'm starting to feel reluctant to click on my 'macrumors' bookmark because all I'm gonna be reading about is, as good as it might be, a bloody telephone.

I'm not kidding. I've had enough.

We DO have page iPhone, and most iPhone stuff goes there. On a slow news day like today, when there hadn't been any Mac news for 3 days, why not post something significant like a solid rumor of new iPhone features? The only thing MORE significant would be final NEWS of new features. But this is, after all, a rumor site as well.

The iPhone runs Mac OS X and is very significant to the Mac platform and to many Mac users.

Additionally, avoiding iPhone articles is as simple as not clicking them :)

If you're complaining not about today's story but about the last few weeks, I can explain the mystery: the reason there were so many iPhone stories for a time is that... the iPhone was new--and it was news. One should not assume because the iPhone launch had many stories to follow it, that the same level of coverage would continue forever. That hasn't happened.

Meanwhile, what non-iPhone Mac news has anyone missed because of the iPhone coverage? New Macs will come, but in the last few weeks they did not. The iPhone did.
 
I, like many others here, am getting sick of this site being dominated by the sodding iPhone.

We have Page 1

We have page 2

I do now think it's time we had Page iPhone.

This isn't sarcasm. I've been visiting this site for many years now. And regardless of my seemingly perpetual 'newbie' status (I was a reader and member long before 2005), I'm starting to feel reluctant to click on my 'macrumors' bookmark because all I'm gonna be reading about is, as good as it might be, a bloody telephone.

I'm not kidding. I've had enough.

sorry man, did you remember all of the itv and ipod rumors? Just suck it up like everyone else.
 
I dont see an app for contacts/address book. Could that be phone?
Radio app could be the app that initially attempts to connect iPhone to AT&T.
 
I dont see an app for contacts/address book. Could that be phone?
Radio app could be the app that initially attempts to connect iPhone to AT&T.

Yes, the Phone app already on the iPhone has your contacts/address book. (And you can make use of in Mail as well.)

(It sounds like these apps are--or were--or will be--real user-accessible apps, with visible names--not invisible functions like connecting to AT&T.)
 
They don't have to be apps. Or even features. There are lots of examples of the use of "com.apple" that have nothing to do with actual software applications.
 
When is a rose not just a rose?

... I'm starting to feel reluctant to click on my 'macrumors' bookmark because all I'm gonna be reading about is, as good as it might be, a bloody telephone.

Well, look. The iPhone is not really just a telephone. It's a functional demo of a major shift in the future of our potential for portable computing, telecom and entertainment. So it's newsworthy and will stay that way while a whole lot of businesses rejigger themselves and try to catch the wave.

The iPhone has clearly already become a major heads up notice to telecom and entertainment industries, plus related suppliers. Not to mention the Congress of the United States of America, many members of which are now scrambling out of a lot of corporate beds and trying to sound like they were never there to begin with.

Why is this? Because the iPhone has so many desirable features and --even as the fledgling it is-- it puts the current, very ugly state of anti-consumer telecommunications policy and practice in the USA into an extremely bright light. The average Joe and the average CIO are both looking at the iPhone and saying "Wait a minute. Why can't I get one of these things? Why can't I just flip my SIM card into the thing and roll on? Why I gotta live where one carrier dominates? Why I gotta think whose tower my call bounces off? WHO MADE THESE RULES UP ANYWAY?"

( sound of scurrying... could be rats leaving sinking ships... could be clerks typing drafts of new legislation... this time not written by the carriers? )

Of course, being a rural American I am laughing a little bit at all this outrage. I've been ranting for years about how come I can't get a signal in this 20-mile-long dead zone, what am I, a second class citizen, blah blah blah.

Well so I'm used to having to drive 20 or 30 miles to be able to use a cell phone. At least now with my iPhone along for the cruise, it's worth the drive. Plus I finally have a cellphone worth turning on when I'm someplace never heard of a cell tower. Like my kitchen. Gotta love that WiFi.
 
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