I wouldn't say that. 95% of their products are at the cheap/mid end of the market they're in.
Take a look at Richer Sounds pricelists...
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"High-Class"/"Elite" items: Mac, Moleskine, Starbucks - What else?
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I wouldn't say that. 95% of their products are at the cheap/mid end of the market they're in.
Take a look at Richer Sounds pricelists...
Indeed - if we are talking about elite brands then HK and B&O are much further up the chain than CA. I don't think the debate was about quality of the items they sell. Like Aston Martin are an elite brand but the cars they produce aren't really that reliable and have a tendancy to break down.bartleby said:
As far as sports cars go then Bugatti Veyron is the top of the tree.
They do make very good products, and tend to punch above their price.
They'd almost be the opposite of how I'd define "High-Class/Elite".
Of course not; as I said, though, quite often you'll find that items perceived as 'elite' are overpriced. To be honest, a lot of items that aren't perceived that way are probably overpriced. That's business. That doesn't mean that happens in all cases, or that elite always = overpriced.
You should probably ask the OP. In my opinion, it's hugely subjective. If you're looking for my specific opinion, I'd take it to mean a high value item, with generally above average build quality, reputation and customers that hold the company that produce the item in high regard.
imo, of course!
They're budget in the same way BMW is budget when compared to Aston Martin, I guess. There'll always be something higher up the food chain.
I don't think 'elite' necessarily means offering poor value for money. Somebody buying a Veyron might think they're getting great value for their million quid, if it's doing what they want it to. And that's pretty 'elite'. Same for private jets, if you wanted to take it right to the end of the spectrum.
No, they're cheap in the same way Ford are cheap.
Using Richer Sounds
Out of
14 cd players 10 are under £500.
24 Amps 16 are under £500
5 AV receivers all are under £400
9 DVD players all are under £150
The OP said "People pay a little extra"
Not really the "ELITE" price bracket...
Being the witless fashion addict I am, I thought the OP meant "moleskin" as in that fabric of thick cotton with the suede nap...
Anywho, is Hermes "elite" enough for a common ready-to-wear fashion house? I saw a coat there for $165,000 USD-- pretax, of course.
Anywho, is Hermes "elite" enough for a common ready-to-wear fashion house? I saw a coat there for $165,000 USD-- pretax, of course.
At no point did I say CA was elite, so let's stick to what's actually been said mate - and that is that, relative to other brands in the market place, they're a budget brand. I merely pointed out there are brands both 'below' and 'above' them, in terms of cost. And, indeed, reputation. I'm fairly sure nobody needs me to quote Richer Sounds prices for verification of this point.
If I'm ever in the market for one of their products, I'll be grateful for the prices you listed!
Sorry Bartelby for getting you in trouble, hope the pricipal doesn't give you detention for clarifying something for me.
He quoted me bruinsrme, so I was responding to him. Nothing to do with you really, mate, so I don't see any need for you to get personal with the 'pricipal' [sic] sarcasm. Bit childish, imo
@ suburbia - whoa, that's expensive! I'd say that's pretty 'elite', haha
I think the reason there is some disagreement in this thread is that the topic is so subjective. What one person perceives as elite, another might not. Do we measure the companies relative to other companies in the market place, as I do? Or measure them on their own merits, regardless of other companies?
Who knows.
Anyway, hopefully bartelby understands what I was trying to say with my post - that I think it's all relative. I edited the comment quoted above after a few seconds, because I felt I was rude in it. Unfortunately, it got quoted by bruinsrme in his beautifully eloquent reply
Cheers.
Acura, Lexus?
Can you say, I just payed $50,000 for a toyota camry with leather seats and a nav system?
LOL
SLC
Can you say, I just payed $50,000 for a toyota camry with leather seats and a nav system?
LOL
SLC
Omega, Apple, BMW, LV, the Centurion card, staying at the Ritz.
These come to mind. For inspiration, I can think of my GF and her wish list: Tiffanys, Mercedes, those just popped up.
These come to mind. For inspiration, I can think of my GF and her wish list: Tiffanys, Mercedes, those just popped up.
I totally agree that Moleskin are not in the same league....
however I go for :
Copic - the best design pens
Bell & Ross watches [the simple ones]
possibly wacom
Audi
Muji
It depends how you think of Apple - I don't regard them as elite items and Starbucks is at the bottom of the ladder for coffee..... unbelievable !!
Apple products are well designed, functional products that have good clean aesthetics.
that's all I can think of
Copics are great! They're not really that expensive when you consider that unlike the Prismas you can refill them.
Never heard of this Moleskine stuff before.
Mercedes Benz, Cadillac, Lincoln..................
Rolex, Omega.................
Coach, Loius Vuitton, Prada................
Perrier, Dom Perignon..........
caviar, truffles, escargot........................
I'm assuming if you can brag about having it, it counts.
Rolex, Omega.................
Coach, Loius Vuitton, Prada................
Perrier, Dom Perignon..........
caviar, truffles, escargot........................
I'm assuming if you can brag about having it, it counts.
Only one thing in this world that smells better than a fresh white truffle and… well… I'd be banned for saying.
Not Porsche. You read how they put cheesy materials and poor workmanship in many of their lesser models.
I'd put BMW on the list if they had the previous models. The current ones are slighted simply by the inclusion of the iDrive. Also Rolls Royce should be on the list.
I'd say GAP. Torrefazione Italia in place of Starbucks (be it known, however, I love Starbucks). I'm not so sure about Tiffany's.
When you really start to break it down, it's amazing how many names you'd can scratch because quality has receded so much in recent years.
Only one thing in this world that smells better than a fresh white truffle and well I'd be banned for saying.
A flower, right?
It always struck me that the really wealthy don't need or want all of those things.
Back in college and grad school, one of my buddies came from an insanely wealthy family. As in multiple vacation homes, and when travelling, you pick the place where you want to land and customs will come to you kind of wealthy.
One time, I was antique shopping with he and his father in Macau. His father gets a call turns to us and says he has to get back to the office in Hong Kong right away and the helicopter is coming for him. I don't remember exactly how it happened on the Macau side, but when we got to Hong Kong, we landed directly on the roof of his office building where the Hong Kong customs and immigration official was waiting. He stamped our passports and then left. All in the space of 30 minutes.
That guy drove an F-150. His son (my friend) drove a Ford Explorer.
It's not like they didn't know how to appreciate the finer things. I had my first two hundred dollar bottle of wine, my first real sixty year scotch, etc with them. But when it came to day to day things, they had so much money, the brand simply didn't matter. He never tried to hide his wealth, it's just he didn't give a **** because he was so damn rich, he didn't have to buy into status symbols. That kid didn't have a Tag, he had a Casio calculator watch because he was an engineering nerd, like me.
Back in college and grad school, one of my buddies came from an insanely wealthy family. As in multiple vacation homes, and when travelling, you pick the place where you want to land and customs will come to you kind of wealthy.
One time, I was antique shopping with he and his father in Macau. His father gets a call turns to us and says he has to get back to the office in Hong Kong right away and the helicopter is coming for him. I don't remember exactly how it happened on the Macau side, but when we got to Hong Kong, we landed directly on the roof of his office building where the Hong Kong customs and immigration official was waiting. He stamped our passports and then left. All in the space of 30 minutes.
That guy drove an F-150. His son (my friend) drove a Ford Explorer.
It's not like they didn't know how to appreciate the finer things. I had my first two hundred dollar bottle of wine, my first real sixty year scotch, etc with them. But when it came to day to day things, they had so much money, the brand simply didn't matter. He never tried to hide his wealth, it's just he didn't give a **** because he was so damn rich, he didn't have to buy into status symbols. That kid didn't have a Tag, he had a Casio calculator watch because he was an engineering nerd, like me.
Perhaps you don't keep up with yachts and the constant 1 upping that goes on with the wealthy who keep spending x00s of millions on new yachts only to make them 5 or 10 ft longer than the other rich boy
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/special-features/2915-worlds-largest-yacht-525-platinum.html
Look at the prices of the top 10 most expensive paintings ever sold.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipea/A0921837.html
the bottom painting is $60.5 million in 1999 and the top at $140 million in 2006
Paintings arent going this high because only 1 or 2 want them, and 'merely rich' people aren't the ones dropping the money on them. The uber wealthy are.
Then we have the billionaire who is building the first (and probably only for the foreseeable future) BILLION DOLLAR HOME.
http://www.forbes.com/2008/04/30/home-india-billion-forbeslife-cx_mw_0430realestate.html
Needless to say he's probably not going to take out a billion dollar mortgage
Also when you get a moment, look into the 'America's Cup' http://www.americascup.com/en/index.php , it's a yachting competition race where they have participants such as Larry Ellison of Oracle and Paul Allen of MS fame. Needless to say its not a cheap venture by any means.
Then you have London's Billionaires row, a stretches of homes that consist mostly of billionaires and uper echelon multi millionaires who probably could live less lavishly but chose not to.
While you might know some wealthy people who live like Buffett, doesn't mean the rest do. They are just better at hiding their fun (and funds
) than everyone else