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Yes. I might also get it.
I'm hoping the gold one will be pretty cheap, hopefully cheap enough to justify the fact that it will be completely useless in two-three years.

But it really seems that not that many will get it.
Many on this forum, who are usually the most ardent pro apple buyers seem uninterested for the most part.
Most watch forum users are not interested.
Many people say, I will buy it next year or something like that.

Something tells me that it's one of those Apple objects that is going to be very distinct and exceptionally desirable once seen in person, and this will likely drive a lot of purchases.

I remember that the iPod (Dock Connector) was one such Apple device, as was the iPod mini (the original metallic one). When you held them in your hand you were just like -- oh crap, I want one of these things.

The current iPod touch is very much that way for me now, as are the iPads, which is why I'm very excited about the new form factor of the iPhone, which really follows that design language.
 
I personally think the gold watches will be way more than $1200. I am thinking more inline around $5000. It is gold after all.
 
I personally think the gold watches will be way more than $1200. I am thinking more inline around $5000. It is gold after all.


yeah that's what I think too.
It will be safely out of reach for mortals, who have to make choices with money, like whether to buy the apple watch or save up for another gold watch.
 
People offload $3K macbooks all the time for the newer version.
Much of the value if a year-old Apple anything is any indication.

Yeah, I agree, as a fashion + “some tech” device, I don’t think the buyers of the higher end will be as prone to swapping out every year. Does it continue tell time, make payment, display a FB alert _and_ look good? Probably yes. :)

Well it's supposedly only 12.5mm.
Do you know anything about how thick watches usually are?

Certainly there should be many sport watches that are thinner but for the most part, they are not.

Panerai: thicker
Most Rolex: thicker
Most Breitlings: thicker
Most hublots: thicker

Not sure how thick APs are but I'm pretty sure most are thicker than the Apple watch.


I posted something along the same lines just after the keynote (in a couple of he aWatch threads). If you look at many mid-high[er] end watches, they’re generally 11-13mm, and I’m not talking giant “bling” watches in the 48mm+ size, I’m talking reasonable, classic designs from Rolex, Breitling, Tag - a Daytona in 40/41mm is 11.5-12mm.

Has the 12.5mm dimension been “officially” released and I wonder if that’s an absolute measure including the convex sensor array which doesn’t really factor in the wear height (which looks like it would be ~1-1.5mm lower).
 
You guys are seriously discussing whether the Apple Watch Edition would be a higher end watch ? It would be still a trivial electronic device in a gold case, very different to real watches. I know that Apple as of now sells the Edition made of gold, not gold plated. But seriously, would that make sense from a marketing perspective ? The Edition looks good. Gold plated certainly attractive for quite some customers. Net profit high due to minimal additional costs.
 
On another note, the website shows only 6 designs for the Edition. They can always come up with a few more, but it won't be mix-and-match between the bands and the watches (if you look closely, the crown is color-matched to the band)

I would think that the crown must be exchangeable. Don't know how hard it is. You might buy a new band, and they mount it and replace the crown as well. Or it might be designed so that you can wear a different band with matching crown every day of the week.

I’m glad to hear some talk about the color on the crown, I noticed it after all the pics were released on apple.com.

So yeah, I’m curious too. Is that a whole crown replacement? A small insert (which seems like it would be very tedious to install/remove)? Is that something that will make it to final production (it wasn’t even addressed, though it’s a tiny detail).

Hmm...
 
Yeah, I guess I probably live a sheltered life in a small Michigan town, but I don't see a lot of people wearing gold anymore. I'm more of a white gold / silver / titanium / tungsten / brushed aluminum / chamfered edge / bulging camera type of guy. But not everyone is like me, and that is a really good thing.
 
What? How far into the keynote (hhmm)? At the 1hr 40m mark, Tim said it starts at $349, but that was all he said about pricing that I saw.

Sorry. I was just joking about the high-end price. I was looking into the future at the next keynote about the :apple: Watch and Tim Cook downplaying how ultra expensive it is. :p
 
As an expert in metals like jewelry, I think with the fact that its 18K gold the casting molding and all the labor involved (although not a lot of gold) the price seems pretty fair to me i was expecting more. And it still woulda sold too.
 
I've seen estimates run up to 3k or 5k for the watch in 18k gold. 1.2k is probably just for the scrap value of the gold, plus labour and hours and the fact it's "premium" I can see Apple charging in the 3-5k range for it.
 
Good point. At least with a nice Swiss watch, there's some resale value in it where you can recover some of your money. But with a recently retired version, which will probably happen every 12-18 months, there's very little resale value. And if each version of the Apple Watch is leaps and bounds better than the one before it then the resale value is almost non-existent. Just like if you have a recently retired iPad or iPod, you have to sell it off quickly in order to get anything. The Apple Watch is a technology product, not a nice Swiss watch with a considerable resale market. You have vintage Swiss watches and an industry built around just that, but you will never have viable vintage Apple Watches as the interested parties will always want the latest and greatest in that product.

I don't know if these things will get upgraded every 12 to 18 months, I could see them coming out with different styles or other models with other functionality, but not necessarily a replacement. That remains to be seen. It also remains to be seen how many years these actually work within the Apple Eco system. It's not running ios8, it has it's own OS that's a different variation. I think more of our questions will be answered in due time.
 
No kidding as well.

equality seems to be the better option than discrimination

This has nothing to do with communism. Discrimination is crime, where I live.
 
No kidding as well.

equality seems to be the better option than discrimination

This has nothing to do with communism. Discrimination is crime, where I live.


Where is the discrimination?
So confused.
Are we still talking about apple watches?
 
Please read posting #443

Back to topics.

I don't get why people get so excited about the AW Edition. No matter if it costs $1200 or $4000+, it will never be a high-end watch.

A higher price makes no high-end watch.

Heck, even a reputable stainless steel Swiss Chrono can be far north $5000 and I don't consider all of those watches as high-end pieces. Yes, the AW Edition is a nice ... computer/watch ??? But high-end ? IMO, no.
 
you mean you'd rather force your equality religion on everyone else

This is a little off topic. But since it's being discussed....

First off, no company is supposed to even ask what religion you prescribe to, but there are companies (small businesses) that only hire people from certain religions out there. I've seen coffee shops that are Christian based where all of the employees are Christian. I've seen that Fish symbol promoted by a lot of companies which is what some Christian business owners do, but that's more in small businesses. I've known some small companies that prefer to hire people that are into L Ron Hubbard as most of the employees were part of that religion. Unfortunately, some of these small businesses do only hire Christians or people from a certain religion. I mean, every church is only going to hire people that belong to that religion, so to me, it sounds like religions themselves discriminate in how they run their churches (which are non-profit businesses), but they get exemptions because they are churches. Go figure that one out. :)

But what about people that don't prescribe to any religion? What about them? They don't even talk about that. I know plenty of people, including myself, that don't prescribe to any specific religious group. I wonder how Apple deals with people that don't belong to any specific religious group.

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I've seen estimates run up to 3k or 5k for the watch in 18k gold. 1.2k is probably just for the scrap value of the gold, plus labour and hours and the fact it's "premium" I can see Apple charging in the 3-5k range for it.

You know, you are absolutely right about this. They do say that the case is made from 18K Gold and not gold plated, so since 18K Gold isn't 100% pure gold, they have to figure out a way to make the case have proper strength since Gold is typically a soft metal and cases made from gold can get gouges in them if they don't have the right metallurgy.

I think it would have been more cost effective and just as good if they simply did a PVD Gold sputtering with Titanium Nitride decorative finish and used Stainless Steel since SS is harder and less likely to get gouges than Aluminum. At least it wouldn't cost as much as making the case from 18K Gold.

I guess we'll all find out more about the pricing early next year.
 
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