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The reason I joined MacRumors is to agitate for a portable Mac mini and portable display. Yes, I could get a battery powered M1 and screen combined in a MacBook but with major usability and speed and price compromises that make it useless for serious work and too heavy and hot and expensive for comfortable laptop use.
.... you think a Mac mini with a battery is going to be more usable as a portable than a... laptop? Ok sure. Good luck with that.
 
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Regarding the iMac which you brought up for some reason, seeing as though a power supply with desired power output requirements would not fit into the interior of the thin new iMac design requirements, it was an easy choice to make it external.
I don't think this is true. At best it's speculation. Apple hasn't released the power figures for the new iMac yet. But let's assume they're roughly 200W - which is consistent with the much more power hungry Intel iMacs. In reality, this iMac probably uses under 100W. There are power supplies capable of putting out 200W that are VERY small. Here is one that is 300W and impressively small. This company is putting out some very impressive designs too. The technology exists, they could have done it. They chose not to do it.
 
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I'm suggesting that a 6k Retina monitor is overkill for the vast majority of people 😂
I agree.

But I don't think the person you replied to, actually meant a 6k display specifically.

I think they just mean an Apple-{quality, design, spec} display.

MR is definitely an echo chamber, but amongst users here, a first-party Apple display in the 24-30" range with ~220 PPI (so, ~4.5 - ~5.5K) with essentially the same 'quality' as a modern iMac would sell like coconut water infused hot cakes.
 
I mostly don't have problems with my 2018 - because I disconnected Wifi (it's "on" for handoff stuff, but it's disconnected from any network), but it's definitely an issue. Being able to locate the wifi and BT radios away from the USB3 ports (which can produce interference) and not behind a solid aluminium top shell would no doubt help.
I know there were USB 3/BT interference issues, I had those in the beginning until a software update solved those issues. (For me)
 
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I agree.

But I don't think the person you replied to, actually meant a 6k display specifically.

I think they just mean an Apple-{quality, design, spec} display.

MR is definitely an echo chamber, but amongst users here, a first-party Apple display in the 24-30" range with ~220 PPI (so, ~4.5 - ~5.5K) with essentially the same 'quality' as a modern iMac would sell like coconut water infused hot cakes.

Here's a 27" 5k LG Monitor with 218 PPI for under $1300 on Amazon. Of course, I'd be more than happy for a first-party version, but when people are looking for large displays with high PPI from Apple, it should be no surprise that it won't be cheap.
 
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Bluetooth and Wifi don't like metal.

Plexiglass is likely cheaper and more shatter resistant than a large glass panel, and you are just plopping this thing on your desk, not carrying it in a backpack everyday.
Oh, but we could be carrying it in a backpack everyday, and even using it from our phones and laptops while it is still in the backpack, if they put a MacBook battery in it.
 
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... seeing as though a power supply with desired power output requirements would not fit into the interior of the thin new iMac design requirements, it was an easy choice to make it external...
um. you're missing the point. function should dictate design. you don't design a thin case and then say "welp, there's no space for a power supply so let's saddle the customers with an awful brick". you design correctly to begin with.
 
Another Mac redesign with external power
The very first mac mini had external power and it was a much better design than internal. Glad Apple is moving back to external. The power supply is usually the first component to fail and it's a lot easier to plug in a new one than leave your mac for a few days for repair. It's also nice to keep the heat away from the processor, though the power bricks don't get as hot as they used to.

If it's got the same power brick as the iMac, why would it have an ethernet port *ON* the machine itself?
Totally different applications. iMacs live on desks and the ethernet port is usually on the wall right next to a power outlet. Minis often get put on server racks, network closets, media server in the basement etc where having the ethernet port a few feet away from the computer is less than ideal.
 
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um. you're missing the point. function should dictate design. you don't design a thin case and then say "welp, there's no space for a power supply so let's saddle the customers with an awful brick". you design correctly to begin with.
Everyone here usually complains that nothing on Apple computers is user-replaceable anymore. Then apple makes the one component that is most likely to fail user-replaceable, and people complain....
 
Do they mean to suggest that the top of the casing is allegedly going to be acrylic? I wonder how closely this will resemble the pre-2010 Mac minis (aside from its overt thinness). I see a few possibilities...

It may be transparent acrylic, with a white background; it could be opaque plastic; or, it could be a matte acrylic with a white background, similar to how the design aesthetic is of the surface of a white Magic Trackpad 2. Whatever the case may be, I think I prefer it over the all-aluminum look.
 
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If you look at the tests, the top-end i7 Intel Mac Mini uses something like 3x the power (and, hence, generates 3x the heat) of the M1 Mini. There is plenty of potential for the M1X/M2/whatever to "grow" without exceeding the thermal capability of the Mini design. Odds are it will be the same chip destined for the 16" MacBook Pro, so it's not going to be huge, or extra power-hungry.

...and if it matters: just. make. the. mini. bigger. It could easily get 50% thicker and still be asked to dance at parties.
If you're ok with the machine being bigger, why are you not ok with it having an external brick?
 
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The point of MagSafe power cords isn't to prevent loss of power supply, but rather to prevent the connected device being pulled off its resting place and potentially becoming damaged if someone trips or yanks on the cord. Thus the "Safe" in MagSafe.

Also, I'm sure it's not going to disconnect with a super light pull, but would require more force so you shouldn't accidentally disconnect it.
DisplayPort and other cables have the opposite, a locking mechanism to keep the cable plugged in even if you pull on it. There's a good reason for that. Nobody likes adjusting a monitor and having some cable come loose.
 
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A giant "wut" at all the people complaining about the power brick.

You do understand how much heat those things generate, no? Considering how often people complain about how Apple is form over function, you'd think people would be happier about a design that puts function over form.
 
Finally someone in the design department is getting their moment to shine. Hopefully it will be glass instead of plexiglass. That thing will be scratched up in no time! Things are looking up for the Mac. They better not dissapoint with the MacBook Pro!
 
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Actually, with the magnetic power connector, they could put a in a Li battery inside the mini, so it can be portable, and also to safe guard against accidental pulls on the power cord.
The device you are looking for, is called a laptop.

Not only does it have a battery inside, it also has a built in display.

What is it with people suggesting desktops need batteries?
Laptops are great for light use on your lap, but don't work well at running stuff that max out the CPU and use usb accessories. Logic connected to interfaces, external drives, and big display. Using it in clamshell mode means you paid for a screen you don't use. But at least you don't need a UPS, and can use it unplugged. Putting a battery in the Mini solves many very big deal breaking problems.
 
Laptops are great for light use on your lap, but don't work well at running stuff that max out the CPU and use usb accessories. Logic connected to interfaces, external drives, and big display. Using it in clamshell mode means you paid for a screen you don't use. But at least you don't need a UPS, and can use it unplugged. Putting a battery in the Mini solves many very big deal breaking problems.
I’ll just go back and tell past me that using a laptop (on a desk, with an external display and the built display, and USB devices!) as a primary machine at least 5 days a week for... a decade, won’t work well. I’ll let you know what past me says.
 
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