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Thinner?😑😑😑 Boo...hiss... I just lost all interest in the high end Mini.

I want it 3x thicker and incased in clear acrylic. Bring back the Cube. Resistance is futile.
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If only I would have more time, I‘d gut my Cube and marry a modern mini with a slow-turning 180mm fan in there. Might add some fast L4-Cache (a.k.a. TB-SSD) for good measure. Perhaps even an eGPU would fit into the housing.

But my collector‘s heart is glad that I lack that time and the Cube stays original … ;-)
 
Let’s hope it’s not another failure of the aesthetic design like what they did to the new iMacs..🥲
Awww… but when it comes to Mac mini’s it’s the beauty inside that really counts.

Most of them I see get clamped to the back of a monitor or stuffed in a network closet or a/v cabinet anyway.
 
As someone who owns a mini server with high voltage power cord and an older mini with the power brick, I think for the mini, the brick wins.

Getting leverage to remove the power cord is difficult and sometimes means having to disconnect other cords. Removing the brick to mini power cable is not hard at all.

Also, the current mini power cord is polarized but not grounded. The brick is grounded. I prefer my power supply grounded…
 
I consider anything 4k and over a high-end monitor for an average consumer. If you want a pro product like the Pro Display HDR (overkill for the vast majority of people), then it should be no surprise that it's top dollar.

I linked to a 27" 5k LG UltraFine in another post that had basically the same PPI as the Pro Display HDR 6k. Obviously not as much screen real-estate, but should be more than enough for most folks. They seem to get great reviews, which "pretty crappy" products don't tend to get ;)
It is a hideous chunk of plastic.

It doesn't even remotely compare to what Apple can make.

And no, the generic 4K monitors on the market are in no way a replacement for an Apple display.
 


Last week, Bloomberg reported that Apple is working on a high-end version of the Mac mini with additional ports and featuring the same Apple silicon chip expected to debut in the upcoming redesigned MacBook Pro. Now, new renders from Apple leaker Jon Prosser have potentially given us our first look at this upcoming Mac.

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According to renders made by Ian Zelbo in collaboration with Prosser, and shared in a new YouTube video from Front Page Tech, the new Mac mini will retain a mostly similar design to the existing Mac mini but be smaller in overall size.


According to Prosser, the new high-end Mac mini will feature the same ports currently available on the Intel-based Mac mini, which includes four Thunderbolt, two USB-A, Ethernet, and HDMI. Another change reportedly coming to the new Mac mini is a "plexiglass-like" top, which will sit above the aluminum enclosure.

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Proser says he has "heard" that Apple is testing two-tone color options for the Mac mini, similar to the newly released 24-inch iMac. Finally, Prosser says that the new Mac mini will feature the same magnetic power port that debuted in the 24-inch iMac.

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Apple updated the Mac mini with the M1 Apple silicon chip in November, keeping in its lineup Mac minis equipped with Intel processors. Bloomberg has indicated Apple could scrap its plans to release this new high-end Mac mini but notes that regardless, it will eventually replace the current Intel models with ones featuring Apple silicon chips.

Article Link: High-End Mac Mini Said to Feature Thinner Design With 'Plexiglass' Top, Magnetic Power Port
Why TF would you have a card reader in the thing, you’d have to spin it around every time just to put in a card and that seriously dumb… and don’t say put it the front as that would be ugly and very un Mac. Only a small amount of users need a card reader and for you buy a dongle. Same with MacBook Pro
 
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Not real thrilled about the external power brick, though the M-series power characteristics might mean that taking the brick out also means taking out the cooling fan....then again that would also seem to preclude a dedicated GPU?

No way should the USB-C ports be that close to one another. I hope they actually understand how people tend to use those.
 
The 2006-2010 Mac minis had an external power supply. it was a white brick.
I know. I have one, it was a pain in the neck (instead of managing one cable you're managing 2 cables connected by a whacking great brick), it partly defeated the object of having such a compact computer and getting rid of it was a great step forward.

Bringing it back would be a step backwards.

Heck, the 1984 Mac had a mouse with a physical ball that got clogged up with fluff. It was revolutionary at the time. That doesn't mean that it would be a good thing to go back to it...

If you're ok with the machine being bigger, why are you not ok with it having an external brick?
What's the point of making something small if it means that you have to have two boxes instead of one? It's not like you can ever use the computer without the PSU (c.f. a laptop where you can use it without).
 
I’m fine with the external brick as I can hide it under my desk. If only they kept the same design power bravo over a few generations and stopped selling the device with power (only if it were a bit cheaper of course!).

this would align with apples environmental goals
 
Just out of curiosity, what’s the downside of the external power brick?

And another question: Apple has released a totally new Mac Mini not long ago, so why is it releasing even another one now, half a year later? I would understand if it was just additional options, like more than 16 GB of RAM, but this seems to be a complete redesign again. How does that make sense after such short time?
 
I think its rare someone would trip or tug the cord on a desktop. They are static in one part of a room and usually backed up to a wall

Apparently Apple doesn't think so, otherwise why would they go through all the trouble to redesign this aspect? Certainly mine is the way you describe, but I'm just one of millions.
 
Who the ever-loving hell seriously cares where the power supply is? I mean, really. Do you people sit at Starbucks with your little lattes and iPads, hovering above the forums link, just itching to rant about the most inconsequential things?

Date. Work on your career. Get married. Find a therapist. Grow a vegetable garden. Cook for old people. Learn woodworking. Travel the world. Volunteer at a dog shelter.

CHRIST.
 
Let’s hope it’s not another failure of the aesthetic design like what they did to the new iMacs..🥲
Meanwhile, the iMacs are selling like hotcakes, delivery times are into early July, people are hella excited about the colors, the design and the fun has returned.

The naysayers are just going to have to wait for the larger iMac or go buy some janky ass Dell, HP or Acer junk to get their fix of boring.
 
Not real thrilled about the external power brick, though the M-series power characteristics might mean that taking the brick out also means taking out the cooling fan....then again that would also seem to preclude a dedicated GPU?

No way should the USB-C ports be that close to one another. I hope they actually understand how people tend to use those.
The M1 has a dedicated GPU, whatever this mini has, will have a dedicated GPU as well. It’s just not going to be an AMD or an NVIDIA GPU.
 
Just out of curiosity, what’s the downside of the external power brick?
Instead of managing a simple cable, you're managing a cable with a massive brick in the middle that either takes up desk space or sits on the floor, getting kicked, trodden on, crushed between the desk and the wall, or worse hanging in midair, putting strain on the captive cable (and Apple have a dismal record on such things breaking and fraying). Instead of a standard figure 8/cloverleaf/kettle connector that can easily be replaced, you get a proprietary connector.

And another question: Apple has released a totally new Mac Mini not long ago, so why is it releasing even another one now, half a year later?
The M1 Air, 13" MBP, and Mini all just took existing products designed for Intel chips and converted them to M1 with the bare minimum of changes. That was (a) relatively quick and cheap and (b) kept the focus on the M1 itself rather than superficial design changes (...and avoided any risk of a new butterfly keyboard/flexgate/etc. spoiling the debut of the M1). Basically: mission accomplished, they've shown what Apple Silicon can do in a familiar product. The next wave is going to involve re-designing products to really take advantage of the M1 in terms of size, low power and cool running - the iMac being the first result.

I don't think any of the first wave of M1 Macs are likely to be around this time next year.

Apparently Apple doesn't think so, otherwise why would they go through all the trouble to redesign this aspect?
Because they wanted to make the new iMac incredibly thin. There isn't space for a power supply. It's not even deep enough to accommodate the depth of an IEC mains plug or standard ethernet plug.

The magsafe connector on the MacBook Pro was there to break away if someone yanked the cable. The magnetic connector on the iMac is there for the opposite reason - it is too shallow (and the cable too heavy) to be held in by friction, so it uses magnets to stop the connector falling out.
 
Who the ever-loving hell seriously cares where the power supply is? I mean, really. Do you people sit at Starbucks with your little lattes and iPads, hovering above the forums link, just itching to rant about the most inconsequential things?

Date. Work on your career. Get married. Find a therapist. Grow a vegetable garden. Cook for old people. Learn woodworking. Travel the world. Volunteer at a dog shelter.

CHRIST.
You're complaining about people ranting, and here you are...ranting. Let's take that mirror and point it at you: Why do you care so much what people are and aren't interested in discussing? If a bunch of people on a tech forum find it interesting to discuss the fine points of tech design (the horror!), what do you care?* Why get your knickers up in a bunch? Relax. Live and let live. Chacun à son goût.

*I personally think the question of how much the in-case TDP would be reduced by moving the power converter outside to be an interesting one. But that's just me.
 
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What's the point of making something small if it means that you have to have two boxes instead of one? It's not like you can ever use the computer without the PSU (c.f. a laptop where you can use it without).
Cause you can hide the brick somewhere else, it can fail independently, and its heat isn't dumped into the machine (which I'm not sure is an issue but maybe).

I get that it's ugly, but if you want function over form, it's probably got more pros than cons.
 
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But the point is with Apple silicon there is nothing more to “pack in.” The Mac mini doesn't need to be big because it doesn't concern itself with battery life and it doesn't need to accommodate any kind of user swappable components.

Its size need only be defined by the size of its logic board and the thermal constraints of the SoC: there is no reason for its enclosure to be any larger than that. And, given the efficiency and size reduction that the system-on-package design of Apple silicon entails, this necessitates a shrinkage of the enclosure.

Just look at the iFixit teardown of the current M1 Mac mini, where they took the Intel-era chassis and shoved an M1 logic board inside: it's mostly empty air inside that volume. That's a waste of space and materials.
IMHO They could/should have used an ATV size chassis for the M1 Mini. That would have been really impressive.

Server farms would be able to fit 4x as many units in a rack.
 
I don't think any of the first wave of M1 Macs are likely to be around this time next year.

Because they wanted to make the new iMac incredibly thin. There isn't space for a power supply. It's not even deep enough to accommodate the depth of an IEC mains plug or standard ethernet plug.

The magsafe connector on the MacBook Pro was there to break away if someone yanked the cable. The magnetic connector on the iMac is there for the opposite reason - it is too shallow (and the cable too heavy) to be held in by friction, so it uses magnets to stop the connector falling out.

Well, if that's the case, then I guess people should stop complaining about it since there was no other alternative.
 
It’s been 23 years. Can we let go of USB-A already?
Not until USB-C hubs that actually give you more USB-C ports are as common/cheap as with A. Seriously, even when I bought USB-C kb/m, each came with only a USB-A-to-C cable cause they know I'm not going to waste precious C ports on my PC on that (if I even have them).

Until then, USB-C will mainly be the omni docking cable that adapts to other stuff, not the thing you use by itself.
 
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Last week, Bloomberg reported that Apple is working on a high-end version of the Mac mini with additional ports and featuring the same Apple silicon chip expected to debut in the upcoming redesigned MacBook Pro. Now, new renders from Apple leaker Jon Prosser have potentially given us our first look at this upcoming Mac.

mac-mini-ports.jpg

According to renders made by Ian Zelbo in collaboration with Prosser, and shared in a new YouTube video from Front Page Tech, the new Mac mini will retain a mostly similar design to the existing Mac mini but be smaller in overall size.


According to Prosser, the new high-end Mac mini will feature the same ports currently available on the Intel-based Mac mini, which includes four Thunderbolt, two USB-A, Ethernet, and HDMI. Another change reportedly coming to the new Mac mini is a "plexiglass-like" top, which will sit above the aluminum enclosure.

mac-mini-back2.jpg

Proser says he has "heard" that Apple is testing two-tone color options for the Mac mini, similar to the newly released 24-inch iMac. Finally, Prosser says that the new Mac mini will feature the same magnetic power port that debuted in the 24-inch iMac.

mac-mini-ports.jpg

Apple updated the Mac mini with the M1 Apple silicon chip in November, keeping in its lineup Mac minis equipped with Intel processors. Bloomberg has indicated Apple could scrap its plans to release this new high-end Mac mini but notes that regardless, it will eventually replace the current Intel models with ones featuring Apple silicon chips.

Article Link: High-End Mac Mini Said to Feature Thinner Design With 'Plexiglass' Top, Magnetic Power Port
I don’t think it’s a ‘high end’ Mac mini that we’ll see. It would just be the Mac mini M2 or M1X. I mean, the new MBP won’t be a ‘high end’ MBP. But will simply be better and newer.

Or maybe they will just call it a Mac. Not mini, not pro. Just Mac.

Quit MacSplaining and gimme a computer, Tim!
 
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