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I am so glad I don't do that stuff any more. I lost a lot of hearing due to the jet engine that lived under my desk all those years. I hope heaven (or hell depending) doesn't have any fans.

This is very quiet fan. Because of non retina iMacs weren't updated, I finally gave up and ordered proper gaming hardware (including this fan) as my 2011 iMac replacement. I expect that my new box will be quieter than iMac and with much better gaming performance.
 
Are we even doing films in 5k yet? I thought 4k was the big push. I guess apple trying to get a head start on everyone.

I dont think its about filming in 5K, but rather having the real estate to work with pictures better and allow viewing all 4K footage in one screen.
 
I'm still holding on to my custom gaming PC. I have no issues gaming at 1080P so I'm going to Boot Camp the Retina iMac and try playing games at that resolution. If it keeps up with my GTX 760 then I'll put it on Craig's list.
 
I'm heading back to work but glad to answer any questions. The display is simply breathtaking and it seems fast as hell so far.

Can you confirm how many Hz the screen is running at? (Should say in System Preferences -> Display, or if not by going to the Apple menu -> About this mac -> More info -> System Report -> Graphics/Displays)
 
Care to elaborate? Or you can just wax hyperbolic :cool:

Of course. After upgrading to Yosemite many users, not all (and I don't know percentages) lost the ability to use internet. For some it's only Safari, for others it's all the programs. In my case it's both, meaning that it's slow in general and worse in Safari. Apple support community is full of complains and no word from Apple. I understand that Yosemite is new but this is a huge mistake. You can't offer a system upgrade and drop internet usability, unless Apple thinks that internet is only for Windows users. For some people it's not being able to work any longer. I was expecting Apple to say something immediately, a deep apology in tears and an immediate fix, but they have been silent. This is how much they care.
 
In all the discussions about when it's cost effective to run a MP vs an iMac, I'm constantly amazed that almost never is virtualization ever brought up. By having an 8-core I can run most any programs I want in either OS side-by-side devoting 4 cores to Mac and 4 cores to my VM with absolutely no performance hit on either side. Way back when I had the original MP '06 4 core (and currently have a 2011 MBP quad core) and let me tell you a dual core side-by-side doesn't cut it.

I state it all the time. In fact that's why I got he Mac pro. I do absolutely no video or photo work. But lately I'm down to 2 virtual machines instead of my usual 4.

Also bought 2 dell up2414q's. If they suck then I'll send them back and really consider the iMac.
 
You're comparing a pick up truck (Mac Pro) with a sports car (iMac) ... yeah the iMac looks nicer and is faster. But I wouldn't use it to do any heavy lifting.
I consider the nMP more of a sports car, but a sports car that mainly runs Final Cut Pro, which I couldn't care less about.

I'm perfectly happy with the old truck model myself, just wish it had been upgraded.
 
These aren't video game graphics

Exactly.

Here is something that I have not seen addressed anywhere:

The maxed out 2014 iMac is ~$3600. It would have an AMD Radeon R9 M295X with 4GB

The 2013 iMac would have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M with 4GB

The 2014 has 4x the number of pixels to push around. Is the 2014 GPU really 4x as powerful as the Nvidia? I doubt it!

Let's see a comparison of game / simulation frames per second. My hunch is that the 2014 would be hard pressed to do *as well* as the 2013.. it's 4x the pixels! There may be a saving grace here and there (with all those extra pixels, you can crank back on anti-aliasing, for one thing)
 
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Of course. After upgrading to Yosemite many users, not all (and I don't know percentages) lost the ability to use internet. For some it's only Safari, for others it's all the programs. In my case it's both, meaning that it's slow in general and worse in Safari. Apple support community is full of complains and no word from Apple. I understand that Yosemite is new but this is a huge mistake. You can't offer a system upgrade and drop internet usability, unless Apple thinks that internet is only for Windows users. For some people it's not being able to work any longer. I was expecting Apple to say something immediately, a deep apology in tears and an immediate fix, but they have been silent. This is how much they care.

It sucks that you're having issues but it sounds like you are in a pretty small group of affected people. To counter your anecdotes with more anecdotes, I've upgraded lots of Macs to Yosemite and I've had no problems. I haven't seen this problem mentioned in the tech media either. Not to diminish your experience but I think it's a little much to demand that they openly weep about your computer troubles.
 
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Can you confirm how many Hz the screen is running at? (Should say in System Preferences -> Display, or if not by going to the Apple menu -> About this mac -> More info -> System Report -> Graphics/Displays)

Sorry, I don't think that's in either place. Here's a screenshot of the System Report screen. Glad to find this out for you in some other way though - DM me.


http://imgur.com/gallery/wRrz4VY/
 
You're right, I really shouldn't have responded to that comment about the mini, posted by...you.

You're right, and I shouldn't have responded to a mini comment posted by someone else. That's how threads go off topic. That's why I made the comment about fussing about Mini's being off topic.
 
Well of course it beats the base nMP. The base nMP isn't all that impressive of a workstation in terms of cpu performance. It isn't bad but it is very easy to beat by other modern quad core machines.

It is kind of a no brainer that a newer generation 4.0ghz cpu was going to be faster than a older generation 3.7ghz cpu. Heck in some cases even the 2013 i7 iMac was faster and that was only 3.5ghz.

The main advantage of the base nMP is the extra Thunderbolt ports when you need the extra throughput for multiple devices and the dual graphics cards.
 
Apple just doesn't refresh its lines faster than about a year anyway, and if Skylake is coming up in nearly a year.....well.....
That's a big if, Skylake is already woefully late and Intel will mostly likely want to get more out of Broadwell. Intel has massively blown their schedule before, look at how late Itanium 2 was.
 
I am so glad I don't do that stuff any more. I lost a lot of hearing due to the jet engine that lived under my desk all those years. I hope heaven (or hell depending) doesn't have any fans.

True... but I really wonder what kind of magic Apple is using to keep these chips cool.

The Retina iMac is using the same Core i7-4790K that Intel ships with a stock cooler that is much thicker than the iMac itself.

Apple much be paying their engineers very well to come up with a thin cooling solution!

I'm looking to build a Windows box with the Core i7-4790K and I'm really temped to go with one of those closed-loop watercooling solutions.

But even air-coolers are much quieter than they used to be.
 
True... but I really wonder what kind of magic Apple is using to keep these chips cool.

The Retina iMac is using the same Core i7-4790K that Intel ships with a stock cooler that is much thicker than the iMac itself.

Apple much be paying their engineers very well to come up with a thin cooling solution!

I'm looking to build a Windows box with the Core i7-4790K and I'm really temped to go with one of those closed-loop watercooling solutions.

But even air-coolers are much quieter than they used to be.

I can't do any fan at all any more it just makes me nuts. Really I need me PC to be silent these days. Any noise at all and I don't even consider it. I bought my MBA at the time because a misinformed web review site said it was fanless. It's close enough though, at least since apple patched the fan bug on Mavericks.
 
Sorry, I don't think that's in either place. Here's a screenshot of the System Report screen. Glad to find this out for you in some other way though - DM me.


http://imgur.com/gallery/wRrz4VY/

Hm, you're right, sometimes it doesn't say apparently. I'm 95% sure it's running 60 Hz, but it would be nice to get that confirmed.. Sadly I don't know how to check that either ;). Maybe some gpu test has a "enable vsync" option that will lock the framerate to the display refresh rate, but otherwise I'm out of ideas. Anyone else know?
 
The performance of the CPU is one thing but it'd be interesting to see how the 5k output is affecting the performance of the GPU.
 
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