High Sierra & MS Office for MAC Compatiability

[Elnlou]

I purchased a new MBP 15.4 in 3/2017. I have MSO for MAC Home & Student 2011 installed software. I upgraded my OS in 11/2017 from MACOSSierra 10.12.6 to MACOS High Sierra 10.13.1. My excel workbooks stopped working--i.e., not compatible.

I downgraded my OS back down to MACOSSierra 10.12.6 so I could continue to use my excel financial worksheets.

MS claims that Office 365 Personal works on high sierra but if you look at their website there are many unhappy folks with many problems including software incompatibility with MSO 365 and the stand along MSO 2016. I am only interested in word and excel. I know that you must have the latest version of Office to work on high sierra.

I would love to upgrade to high sierra but not until I'm confident that my word and excel will work with it. My financial life is on excel. I am most interested in the PAST SPECIAL feature in Excel where you can paste link, or just paste formulas, or values, etc.

Lastly, I would prefer the stand along MSO 2016 but you only get one year of upgrades and patches and support.

My question is what experience have you all had? I trust this site more than mso site.

Thanks in advance & HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

[mitstoshi]

Under 10.13.2, MS Office 2011 works well. One "problem (or not ?)" is that MS have stopped support and will provide no updates for Office 2011.

 

[Elnlou]

Thanks, Mitstoshi! I wonder is the MS non support really a huge issue if I only use MSO at home & not at work, school or a cafe?
[doublepost=1515964494][/doublepost]Any opinions on MSO 2016 vs MSO365? I really hate paying a monthly fee to use my spreadsheets.

 

[kohlson]

I have MS Office 2016, with the perpetual license (stand alone license). It works on my 2013 15-MBP with 10.13.2. Note that this is not Office 365 Personal. I have another system (Mac Pro) that is running 10.13.2. MS Office 2011 is installed and works fine. Someday it won't work, but for now it does.

 

[mikzn]

I use MS office 2011 on sierra and have tested briefly on High Sierra - but HS is not my working Mac OS and I just opened a few files etc.

MS-office-2011 - first off - IMHO- best value for money I have ever spent in software - and I bought 3 copies because of company / consulting situations - they all work up to and including (so far) High Sierra. that is a pretty good run and took a lot of support from Microsoft to make sure they work with these OS versions.

For a different perspective - a good friend of mine who uses excel extensively told me that because of Pivot Tables, some other financial functions and macros - that the upgrade was worth it for him as soon as 2016 appeared. He bought it and tells me I should upgrade every time we discuss software / MS OFFICE etc. On the other hand - I am not a fan of the subscription payments.

I don't think there is any Generic answer to upgrading MS Office - but it seems 2016 and the 365 version is a closer match to the windows version capabilities than ever before.

My situation is that I am happy with 2011 and they have been supporting it longer than I thought they would - awesome

I am expecting to upgrade soon

 

[chscag]

MS Office 2011 working great for me with High Sierra 10.13.2. I'm not an Excel user so can not comment specifically to that, however, Word and Powerpoint are fine. Also, MS did announce a while back that they would continue to develop Office apps for the Mac. No telling when they advance the next version though.

One thing should be noted about Office 2011.... it's a 32 bit app and Apple will likely kill off 32 bit apps with the next version of macOS which we may see later on this year. Office 2016 has been updated to 64 bits so that should be OK.

 

[mitstoshi]

Thanks, Mitstoshi! I wonder is the MS non support really a huge issue if I only use MSO at home & not at work, school or a cafe?
[doublepost=1515964494][/doublepost]Any opinions on MSO 2016 vs MSO365? I really hate paying a monthly fee to use my spreadsheets.

I don't think MS non-support is an issue at least for me using Excel primarily! I would skip 2016 and wait for the next upgrade 2019 maybe. Also subscription of MS Office 365 is not for me!

 

[Elnlou]

I would love to wait for the MSO 2019 upgrade but then I also have to worry whether it will be compatible with High Sierra and all the upgrades between now and then. It seems with every upgrade there are an assortment of software compatibility issues.

 

[chscag]

I suspect MSO 2019 will be compatible. MSO 2016 only requires Yosemite or later so it's a good bet that any new version of MSO will work with High Sierra.

 

[Bazza1]

I had Office 365 / 2016 as part of a job with a university, but I yanked it when I was no longer there and installed my 'old' 2011 Home & Student on High Sierra, though MS stated it would not work. Ans, as it turns out, this install was a week before they stopped supporting 2011, so I ensured I had all the updates applicable before the deadline.

I've had no real problems with it at all - beyond some documents (including Excel) take longer than they should / used to to open. And I daresay my mid-2011 Air is probably at the end of MacOS upgrade cycle now, so come October, both the OS and Office will grow old - though not useless - together on it.
Office 2019? The local - not 365 - version? Might work on my Air / MacOS, but MS keeping their cards close to the chest on that one - but my guess is they want us to be stuck with a subscription and relying on their online services and storage, so will make the compatibility window (as it were) very small indeed.

If my Office 2011 hadn't worked on my High Sierra Air, I probably would have gone to LibreOffice to maintain a local - not virtual - Office.

 

[Elnlou]

I had Office 365 / 2016 as part of a job with a university, but I yanked it when I was no longer there and installed my 'old' 2011 Home & Student on High Sierra, though MS stated it would not work. Ans, as it turns out, this install was a week before they stopped supporting 2011, so I ensured I had all the updates applicable before the deadline.

I've had no real problems with it at all - beyond some documents (including Excel) take longer than they should / used to to open. And I daresay my mid-2011 Air is probably at the end of MacOS upgrade cycle now, so come October, both the OS and Office will grow old - though not useless - together on it.
Office 2019? The local - not 365 - version? Might work on my Air / MacOS, but MS keeping their cards close to the chest on that one - but my guess is they want us to be stuck with a subscription and relying on their online services and storage, so will make the compatibility window (as it were) very small indeed.

If my Office 2011 hadn't worked on my High Sierra Air, I probably would have gone to LibreOffice to maintain a local - not virtual - Office.

I looked at LibreOffice and it doesn't seem to have the functions that are vital to my finance record tracking--i.e., "paste special" where you can past link & copy and paste equations, etc.

 

[biyahero1]

I purchased a new MBP 15.4 in 3/2017. I have MSO for MAC Home & Student 2011 installed software. I upgraded my OS in 11/2017 from MACOSSierra 10.12.6 to MACOS High Sierra 10.13.1. My excel workbooks stopped working--i.e., not compatible.

I downgraded my OS back down to MACOSSierra 10.12.6 so I could continue to use my excel financial worksheets.

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I would love to upgrade to high sierra but not until I'm confident that my word and excel will work with it. My financial life is on excel. I am most interested in the PAST SPECIAL feature in Excel where you can paste link, or just paste formulas, or values, etc.

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My question is what experience have you all had? I trust this site more than mso site.

Thanks in advance & HAPPY NEW YEAR!

MS Office 2011 working great for me with High Sierra 10.13.2. I'm not an Excel user so can not comment specifically to that, however, Word and Powerpoint are fine. Also, MS did announce a while back that they would continue to develop Office apps for the Mac. No telling when they advance the next version though.

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Well now I'm wondering if the fact that Excel spreadsheets stopped working for Elnlou might have something to do with the complexity of those spreadsheets... for example the PAST SPECIAL feature that he mentioned? Does anyone else who is using Office 2011 with High Sierra have a problem with Excel spreadsheets?

My financial life, like Elnlou's, is in Excel and I would prefer to never upgrade willingly to High Sierra 10.13.x than to lose the fuctionality of Office 2011. I am mostly just interested in Word and Excel and to a limited degree Outlook. But I need Excel everyday.

That is encouraging that "chscag" finds Office 2011 works fine for him on High Sierra, but he doesn't use Excel, and Excel functioning is of the highest importance to me.

Anyone else using Office 2011 on High Sierra have experiences they would care to share?

 

[Elnlou]

I still haven't upgraded my Mac OS to HS. I'll wait for MSO 2019 which is coming out soon, mid-2018. However, I won't download it till the end of the year. MSO 2019 supposedly will be compatible with HS and MS supposedly will support it for 5 to 7 years:

https://www.computerworld.com/artic...19-is-coming-heres-what-you-need-to-know.html

Any thoughts????

Well now I'm wondering if the fact that Excel spreadsheets stopped working for Elnlou might have something to do with the complexity of those spreadsheets... for example the PAST SPECIAL feature that he mentioned? Does anyone else who is using Office 2011 with High Sierra have a problem with Excel spreadsheets?

My financial life, like Elnlou's, is in Excel and I would prefer to never upgrade willingly to High Sierra 10.13.x than to lose the fuctionality of Office 2011. I am mostly just interested in Word and Excel and to a limited degree Outlook. But I need Excel everyday.

That is encouraging that "chscag" finds Office 2011 works fine for him on High Sierra, but he doesn't use Excel, and Excel functioning is of the highest importance to me.

Anyone else using Office 2011 on High Sierra have experiences they would care to share?

 

[chscag]

From that Computer World article you linked to, it appears Office 2019 will first be offered to Office 365 subscribers just as it was with Office 2016. And since it seems that Office 2019 will be geared toward business users, I expect that it will be bloated similar to Office 2016. I have begun to use Pages more and more and find that it suits my needs very well. The latest version of Pages has made improvements.

 

[campyguy]

Any thoughts????

Upgrade whenever you want. MS's Office has a name, it's just a name - just as Windows 10 is just a name for their now-perpetually updated version of Windows. MS is cutting off standalone licensing support in October 2020 FWIW, review the link there. I subscribe to O365 now, buying Home licenses on the cheap when they go on sale - several features of Office are available only with O365 licensing now. Office will be Office after that, it's not worth a few bucks to me as Office "2016" is getting regular updates and access to their Store fairly regularly now.

 

[Surrat]

You can easily track the Mac versions of Microsoft Office here:
https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...-for-mac-700cab62-0d67-4f23-947b-3686cb1a8eb7

The final version of 2011 is 14.7.7, its Microsoft AutoUpdate doesnt work anymore, but you can download the newest AutoUpdate installer on that page, and run that with Office 2011 just in case they surprise us with an update.

Anybody running Office 2011 check your version, and if your not on 14.7.7 make sure to update it.
You can also download the full installers for 2011 or 2016 there (unregistered of course).

 

[MacGizmo]

I've heard of similar issues with Adobe stand-alone apps getting mixed-in with the CreativeCloud subscription apps. I guess the lesson is to stick with perpetual license versions, or delete them before you install the subscription versions.

 

[Elnlou]

Upgrade whenever you want. MS's Office has a name, it's just a name - just as Windows 10 is just a name for their now-perpetually updated version of Windows. MS is cutting off standalone licensing support in October 2020 FWIW, review the link there. I subscribe to O365 now, buying Home licenses on the cheap when they go on sale - several features of Office are available only with O365 licensing now. Office will be Office after that, it's not worth a few bucks to me as Office "2016" is getting regular updates and access to their Store fairly regularly now.

I've heard of similar issues with Adobe stand-alone apps getting mixed-in with the CreativeCloud subscription apps. I guess the lesson is to stick with perpetual license versions, or delete them before you install the subscription versions.

I'd like to update my current MSO for Mac 2011 v14.7.2 to v14.7.7. I missed the window of opportunity before MS stopped upgrading and support. Is there a website with a safe download to upgrade (if that makes sense).

 

[chscag]

Have you tried manually running the MSO updater from within Office 2011? That should download the latest updates to Office 2011.

 

[Elnlou]

Have you tried manually running the MSO updater from within Office 2011? That should download the latest updates to Office 2011.

I checked it out but I'm starting an update for MSO for MAC Home & Student 2011 for v14.7.2 and I can't seem to find the next update which would be v 14.7.7. I'm very behind and am quite lost.

 

[campyguy]

I'd like to update my current MSO for Mac 2011 v14.7.2 to v14.7.7. I missed the window of opportunity before MS stopped upgrading and support. Is there a website with a safe download to upgrade (if that makes sense).

You're lucky I bookmark this stuff... The English language link, with the option to select a different language. BTW, use Bing to search for links related to MS products - just a tip...
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=55942

 

[Elnlou]

You're lucky I bookmark this stuff... The English language link, with the option to select a different language. BTW, use Bing to search for links related to MS products - just a tip...
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=55942

Wow. Thank you! I believe if I can find my way to v 15.38 I can then upgrade to MacOS High Sierra and preserve my financial workbooks. I will have to diligently backup every thing during each step.

My goal would be to install the perpetual MSO for MAC 2019 64 bit application when it comes out later this year and some how preserve my current workbooks from the MSO for MAC Home & Student 2011 version in the 2019 application.

Any suggestions would be great. Hoping it's possible. Thanks again!!!

 

[kohlson]

I believe if I can find my way to v 15.38 I can then upgrade to MacOS High Sierra and preserve my financial workbooks.

MSO 2011 works on HS. At least it does on the flight of MBAs in our family, plus a 2012 iMac and a 2010 Mac Pro. I believe it is "not supported" by MS, so at some point in the future it may not work, but it works now. If you're concerned, get MSO 2016, which is available in either perpetual or subscription. I have a perpetual license, and it works as expected. The current rev is 16.14.1.

 

[biyahero1]

I would love to wait for the MSO 2019 upgrade but then I also have to worry whether it will be compatible with High Sierra and all the upgrades between now and then. It seems with every upgrade there are an assortment of software compatibility issues.

I can't image why it would not be. Even Office 2011 for Mac Home and Business continues to work fine for mw with the latest High Sierra 10.13.5. It is a 32 bit app so eventually it may stop working because of that, but Office 2016 for Mac is 64 bit so should work fine and the future Office 2019 for Mac would be 64 bit and should work fine as well.

You might try here: https://primeosr.com/office-programs/ and get Microsoft Home and Office 2016 for Mac at a very attractive price. I just got it but haven't bothered to install it yet since 2011 still works fine and because of the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it!". also I don't know if they are still offering it but when I bought it there was a promo to either get a backup install CD OR a free license for Office 2019 Home and Office fof Mac when it comes out, so I opted for that.

 

[Elnlou]

MSO 2011 works on HS. At least it does on the flight of MBAs in our family, plus a 2012 iMac and a 2010 Mac Pro. I believe it is "not supported" by MS, so at some point in the future it may not work, but it works now. If you're concerned, get MSO 2016, which is available in either perpetual or subscription. I have a perpetual license, and it works as expected. The current rev is 16.14.1.

Lots of folks say their MSO 2011 works on HS. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case for me.
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I can't image why it would not be. Even Office 2011 for Mac Home and Business continues to work fine for mw with the latest High Sierra 10.13.5. It is a 32 bit app so eventually it may stop working because of that, but Office 2016 for Mac is 64 bit so should work fine and the future Office 2019 for Mac would be 64 bit and should work fine as well.

You might try here: https://primeosr.com/office-programs/ and get Microsoft Home and Office 2016 for Mac at a very attractive price. I just got it but haven't bothered to install it yet since 2011 still works fine and because of the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it!". also I don't know if they are still offering it but when I bought it there was a promo to either get a backup install CD OR a free license for Office 2019 Home and Office fof Mac when it comes out, so I opted for that.

I checked out the website and the offer still seems to be there. Do you know if it is 64 bit?? So, when you're ready you will download it from a link they provided in an e-mail? Do you feel this website is legit? The website owner hides the country of origin. I'm just being cautious.

I'm trying to understand the procedure or process of how to upgrade. Forgive me if I'm dense about it.

If you have to uninstall MSO for Mac 2011 in order to install MSO for Mac 2016 or even MSO for Mac 2019 (if I decide to wait for that) how do you access your Excel files in MSO for Mac 2011? When you uninstall a program, do your Excel 2011 files remain and the upgraded program just opens them, hopefully, uncorrupted and in tact?