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iPhone Air (4.7") - No sapphire

16 GB $199/$649
32 GB $249/$699
64 GB $299/$749

iPhone Pro (5.5") - Sapphire

16 GB $299/$749
32 GB $349/$799
64 GB $399/$849

A larger screen with sapphire doesn't make a phone "pro". If Apple purposely restricts the best materials and specs based on screen size they will piss off a lot of people. What if I want sapphire display (and am willing to pay for it) but don't want a phablet? Since we've seen hardly any leaks for 5.5" device I'm highly skeptical it exists. You might be right about 16GB still being base model but I think that's stupid as well. Keep that for the low end/free on contract model and start the flagship model at 32GB.
 
What do they mean - increased component costs? its a brandnew phone, just as the 5s was last year. I doubt that the costs will vastly increase.even a sapphire screen may be a bit pricier, but these iphones are already expensive.

I dont think apple can afford to make iphones even pricier, as they are already amongst the most if not THE most expensive phones.
 
Just give me the cheapest iPhone 6, and I'll be happy. If thats the glass one, then fine. I'm putting a tempered glass protector on it...that'd be my sapphire display. :p
 
Considering my phone is my most-used device other than my work-issued laptop, I'd pay up to $1k off-contract for an iPhone IF THE PHONE WARRANTED THE PRICE. I don't want to pay a bunch of extra coin for features I don't need, however - "even better" camera, more than 64gb storage, built-in kickstand (lol) etc.

If they add valuable features like water-resistance, scree-break-resistance, etc. - definitely would pay more than I pay now.

There are some nice third-party solutions like this: http://www.liquipel.com/shop/treatment/treat-my-phone/

OT: I just hope they come out at the same time D:
 
Even if it does, the "facts" are:

(1) There is speculation of sapphire on only higher end models.

(2) Those sapphire models may cost more.

Essentially, we've confirmed that people are guessing about stuff. Wow.

You forgot to add 5.5" model. I consider that as big a guess as anything.

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Here's what I think the on-contract pricing for the iPhone line could look like, based on these reports:

iPhone 5c - 8 GB - free
iPhone 5s - 16 GB - $99

iPhone 6 (4.7", non-sapphire, 32 GB) - $199
iPhone 6 (4.7", sapphire, 32 GB) - $299
iPhone 6 (4.7", sapphire, 64 GB) - $399

iPhone 6 (5.5", non-sapphire, 32 GB) - $299
iPhone 6 (5.5", sapphire, 32 GB) - $399
iPhone 6 (5.5", sapphire, 64 GB) - $499

Thoughts?
What is your off contract price for the 5C?
 
iPhone 6 - Redesign
iPhone 6s - Sapphire Display

iWatch will be used as a 'test' to see if sapphire is suitable.

Creating too many variations is against Apple's model. I highly doubt someone will be willing to pay $100 more for a 'scratch-resistant' screen, when they can easily apply a $10 screen protector. Gorilla Glass is already durable.
 
This is the same company that keeps saying its AppleTV model is a hobby and it made them a billion dollar in the past few years.

If Apple cancels the product, it's a dud. If Apple says the mix wasn't as wide as they expected, meaning they half expected iPhone 5S to consume more of the iPhone sales, it is not a dud. Tim said they saw much more folks picking iPhone 5S than iPhone 5C. Which is probably because of the high cost, it should've been free or 99$ on contract and 299$ on sale.

They're still making billions off 5C, that's a not dud. That's a success that several Android phone companies can't even barely met.

Apple's pretty much so far off the typical company's scale, that what they say isn't what a typical company would do in the market.

Have you considered that a product that is a dud by apple standards, still sells more units than android companies would dream ? By your logic the iPod shuffle 3rd gen was a success, based on sales versus other MP3 makers, trust me it was a turd, and a dud by apple standards.
 
"demand" for a 5.5 iPhone 6 will be huge! Its the first time a iPhone of this size hits the market. The Note has been out a while. I think Apple can up the price based on this alone.

The Note 4 is expected to be announced on Sept 4th as well, the week before Apple's announcement. I'm still hoping for a 5.5" iPhone too (otherwise I'll settle for 4.7" iPhone), but it'll be interesting to see what the Note 4 will have.

Other international markets like China *really* love huge phones... if we don't see the 5.5" this year, maybe it'll pop up next year.
 
What if I want sapphire display (and am willing to pay for it) but don't want a phablet?

Then you'll just have to suck it up. Just like the millions and millions of people who want an iPhone but would not want a tiny 4" display.
 
I'm not buying it (figuratively speaking). I don't see them releasing two different versions of the same phone, one with sapphire and one without. Maybe on the 5.5 inch only.. but I'd be very surprised if a sapphire display is an optional feature on the 4.7 inch phone.
 
iPhone 6 with 4.7" Non-Sapphire Display (May be a Sapphire Composite)
32GB 199.99
64GB 299.99

iPhone Air with 5.5" Sapphire Display
16GB 299.99
32GB 399.99

I'm predicting an elimination of the number convention and a switch to Apple's traditional naming convention:

iPhone C - least expensive, color (currently iPhone 5c)
iPhone mini - midrange, 4inch screen (currently iPhone 5s)
iPhone S - high-end 4.7 inch screen (currently "iPhone 6 4.7")
iPhone Air - high-end 5.5 inch screen, ultra thin (currently "iPhone 6 5.5")

with Pro models of both the S and Air having sapphire.

Alternatively,

iPhone C - least expensive, color (currently iPhone 5c)
iPhone mini - midrange, 4inch screen (currently iPhone 5s)
iPhone Pro - high-end 4.7 inch screen (currently "iPhone 6 4.7")
iPhone Pro Air - high-end 5.5 inch screen, ultra thin (currently "iPhone 6 5.5")

with pro models again getting sapphire.

OR

iPhone C - least expensive, color (currently iPhone 5c)
iPhone mini - midrange, 4inch screen (currently iPhone 5s)
iPhone Pro - high-end 4.7 inch screen (currently "iPhone 6 4.7")
iPhone Air - high-end 5.5 inch screen, ultra thin (currently "iPhone 6 5.5")

with S versions of the Pro and Air getting sapphire
 
I think you are spot on except that i doubt they'll segment the two types of iPhone 6's that way.

16GB will still exist. Get used to it. Sapphire will either come to all or just the 5.5". Look at how retina displays have been introduced. iPad (9.7") got it first, Mini gets it later. MBP's get them first, MBA's perhaps get them next year.

My guess is Apple intends for Sapphire to be used across all lines - not as a "premium" feature that segments their lines. But if the yields aren't there they may start with the 5.5" and then include the 4.7" next year.

And I think the price increase for more storage will go down to $50 from $100.

The difference is the iPad mini didn't launch at the same time as the retina iPad. Could be the first model didn't get retina because Apple didn't have battery life and thermal considerations figured out yet. Or the price point would have been too high.

Even if there are yield issues with sapphire I think Apple should still make it available to all flagship models, just limit it to the most expensive model. That way the only consideration is price and you don't have to compromise based on screen size. Apple basically did away with that compromise with iPads; would be a shame for them to reintroduce it with iPhones.
 
what a way to keep separating the people...

What a way to keep DIVIDING the people. "On this side you have the 'have-nots' and over here are our elite supreme beings the 'haves', bravo, they can afford our "exclusive premium crystal phone"... Bravo :D

I am gonna get one and just wear it and buy the not so elite one as a dumb phone and pay way so much for the cell plans and still manage to NOT have a life :D I'm so excited for the release of this socially dividing TOOL. Yah human division and class system :D "Don't look at me you worthless cheap iPHONE (C)rap user hmmph!"

(Sarcasm comic voice in the vein of Robin Williams!)

Love it so much.

I love you all.
 
Whats the most you guys would pay for a premium phone? I see a lot of people on here complaining all the time. Nickel and Dime.

Personally, if the 5.5 started at 399 and went up to 599....I wouldn't complain. Nor do i think i would complain at entry level 499 pricing if the phone is stacked with high end parts. 2GB, 13MP Camera, Sapphire, etc.

Here in Australia the 5S 64GB is $1129 (outright). IMO Apple would have a hard time pushing sales for the 6 if it was anything beyond $1299. $1300+ seems excessive from a marketing perspective, especially in comparison to a MBA 11" at $1099 / 13" $1199 for 128GB.
 
Why is this a pipe dream? $299/$749 for the 16GB 5.5" would put it on par with the Note series.

I don't think Apple is worried about price, all the iPhones sell just fine and they don't need to rival with Samsung devices on price.

Besides, have you seen what Apple still sells the unlocked, contract-free iPhone 4S for? $450 for an 8 GB model that's nearly 3 years old.
 
Then you'll just have to suck it up. Just like the millions and millions of people who want an iPhone but would not want a tiny 4" display.

So if the 4.7" got sapphire and the 5.5" didn't would all the phablet lovers just "suck it up" and not complain? It's easy for people who are getting what they want to tell others to "suck it up". ;)
 
This is definitely a story cooked up by Apple's marketing team.

It reminds me of the period before the iPad was released when the price was predicted to be $999. During the iPad introduction keynote, they acknowledged those rumors to make the $499 price seem impressive.

I bet that at the iPhone event next month they'll brag about how some thought it couldn't be done, but they've managed to produce enough sapphire for the whole line of iPhones with no price increase. Wow!
 
If Apple is only planning to use sapphire in the higher-end models of the 4.7 and 5.5-inch iPhone 6, that could explain why a sandpaper test on a leaked iPhone 6 front panel revealed that it was not made of pure sapphire.

There's no mixture of sapphire and glass, only layers of each.

So if the top layer scratched, it was not made of sapphire, period.

Even if the BOM increases by $10-$15, Apple's profit margins will still fall in the 60% range. Margins will be similar or slightly higher on the 32 GB and 64 GB models EVEN IF they reduce the cost of the storage bump from $100 to $50.

Apple loves their profit margins. If they were going to give away BOM increases of $15, they'd price their memory increments better.

Didn't the 5C bomb? What's the point in confusing consumers and hurting the brand with garbage devices that nobody wants?

The 5C didn't bomb per se. It just didn't do as well as Apple had predicted. Many retailers... especially in China... were left with extra inventory at first, while missing out on 5S sales because its production was too small for demand.

As for garbage products, I wouldn't call an iPhone with Gorilla Glass that.
 
I still think Apple will put sapphire on all or none. I'm gonna bet they have enough sapphire to do it. One thing this article doesn't mention is the entire 3 year supply of sapphire screens they bought already made. I'm sure that will help even if the sizing is wrong it can be cut to cover all the camera lens and home buttons leaving their plant to just produce screens.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...y-of-45-sapphire-displays-says-canonical-ceo-
 
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