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Higher-End 4.7 and 5.5-Inch iPhone 6 to Get Sapphire Displays, Higher Price Tags

jrswizzle said:
I don't think the 5.5" iPhone will launch at the same time as the 4.7" iPhone either.....

And I think Apple will quickly do away with the difference the next generation. I just think if we are getting some sapphire display, it'll be split by line rather by storage space.

You could say the same thing about those who want a 32 GB phone but also want sapphire. Do they just have to "suck it up" and pay more for the 64 GB just so they can get sapphire?

Honestly, it would make the most sense if all this sapphire business was purely related to the iWatch and NONE of the iPhone models got sapphie displays this go around. Next year, they all would (well, all the new models would).
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Hey I think if Apple's going to use sapphire it should be on all flagship models. But if there is a supply issue I'd rather they limit it based on price than screen size. And Apple just happens to use storage size as their price differentiator. IMO screen size is more of a compromise than storage. If I really wanted sapphire and was willing to pay more for it I'd take the additional storage. :)
 
NT1440 said:
The truth is that article has nothing to do with 5C sales...I'm not sure why you posted it? :confused:
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The truth is Of the 301.3 million smartphones shipped last quarter, I believe that includes the 5C. Then further on, Android, however, was the "primary driver". That’s why I posted it. Can you not read?
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Walmart, Target, etc. all were heavily discounting earlier this year to reduce their inventory.
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I've seen price discounts on the 5S. Did it not do well?

I see Android constantly in "buy 1 get 1" deals - flagships. Did they not do well?

As others have pointed out, Cook's words had to do with the MIX of iPhones - they expected the demand for the 5S and 5C to be more equal when it was more skewed the 5S's way. You take that to mean the 5C tanked - or perhaps the 5S was just a bigger success than people thought.

Regardless of what you say, there isn't a smartphone ever that can be the second best selling smartphone in the world (only behind its beefier brother) and be considered a "failure".

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Rogifan said:
Hey I think if Apple's going to use sapphire it should be on all flagship models. But if there is a supply issue I'd rather they limit it based on price than screen size. And Apple just happens to use storage size as their price differentiator. IMO screen size is more of a compromise than storage. If I really wanted sapphire and was willing to pay more for it I'd take the additional storage. :)
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We shall see soon my friend :D
 
jrswizzle said:
It is artificial differentiation to you and I. But to Apple, who might have better profit margins on the 5.5" and therefore more room to work with, it might make sense.

Luckily, we get to find out the TRUTH in less than 4 weeks.
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I guess the question is how much is Tim Cook's Apple driven by bean counters obsessing over profit margins. Honestly when Apple announced the iPad mini at $329 I assumed they priced it that way so when a retina version came they wouldn't have to increase the price. I was a little surprised to see the $399 price tag but that's probably why they gave it the same internals as the Air. I still think the $399 price tag might be contributing to the slower iPad sales.
 
I haven't read all the comments so sorry if this has been stated already, but I wonder if the two models that were alluded to by Thai officials are actually the "High End" 4.7, and the regular 4.7 as opposed to a 4.7 and 5.5. With still 0 part leaks for the 5.5, I'm finding it harder to believe that this phone will actually surface. I hope I'm wrong as I want the 5.5, but if all we get is a 4.7, I'll end up choosing the Saphire version for sure.
 
Rogifan said:
Ok then what if there was something you really wanted but Apple restricted it to the smaller display just because, for no apparent reason. You'd still suck it up no complaints?
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They have restricted the entire current lineup to a small display, and yes, I bought one nevertheless.
 
H2SO4 said:
The truth is Of the 301.3 million smartphones shipped last quarter, I believe that includes the 5C. Then further on, Android, however, was the "primary driver". That’s why I posted it. Can you not read?
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I CAN read. The question is why do market idiots chase shipment numbers and marketshare when TWO companies in the entire smartphone industry are taking 90+% of the PROFIT.

What is the point of moving millions of Luminas when you are only breaking even at best on them?

It's not a matter of reading comprehension, it's a matter of looking at the state of the market, chasing marketshare for the sake of marketshare is a fools errand and only leads to a race to the bottom in terms of profits.
 
NT1440 said:
I CAN read. The question is why do market idiots chase shipment numbers and marketshare when TWO companies in the entire smartphone industry are taking 90+% of the PROFIT.

What is the point of moving millions of Luminas when you are only breaking even at best on them?

It's not a matter of reading comprehension, it's a matter of looking at the state of the market, chasing marketshare for the sake of marketshare is a fools errand and only leads to a race to the bottom in terms of profits.
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I didn’t ask about who was breaking even I was referring to the numbers. That should have been obvious from the linked post. You read but maybe didn’t comprehend?
 
I'd like to buy an iPhone 6 Fragile Edition then! Seriously though, I'm not sure I'm willing to pay, say, $50-100 extra for sapphire glass. Glass that I have never, ever needed.
 
hoits2000 said:
iPhone 6 with 4.7" Non-Sapphire Display (May be a Sapphire Composite)
32GB 199.99
64GB 299.99

iPhone Air with 5.5" Sapphire Display
16GB 299.99
32GB 399.99
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Keep dreaming. iPhone won't start at 32GB. Why would Apple change something that most people didn't complain about (16GB storage capacity)?
Let's forget about 5.5" this time and go with one new screen size per 2 years.

2014 (Subsidized)
iPhone 6: 16/32/64GB at $199/$299/$399
iPhone 5S: 16/32/64GB at $99/$199/$299
iPhone 5C: 16/32GB at at $0/$99

2015
iPhone 6S (Sapphire?): 16/32/64GB at $199/$299/$399
iPhone 6 (6->6C to differentiate w the look?): 16/32/64GB at $99/$199/$299
iPhone 5S: 16/32GB at at $0/$99

I think Apple may finally differentiate the look of iPhone somehow (by phone color chassis?) to make sure that there's no confusion at Apple stores for the S model vs previous year model like 5S/5->5C/4S in 2013.
 
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H2SO4 said:
I didn’t ask about who was breaking even I was referring to the numbers. That should have been obvious from the linked post. You read but maybe didn’t comprehend?
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Hence why asked what is the point.

You can choose to just look at the numbers, but you'd miss the forest from the trees. I don't think there is any point in just looking at shipment numbers.

There is no dispute that the iPhone line, in its entirety, is the most profitable phone in the world. That's a hell of a failure for sure a small marketshare. :rolleyes:

So that's what I was getting at, that your post seemed entirely pointless when considering business success or failure.
 
Running out of things to report on so making them up now..

Average joe won't care about what the screen is made from so stupid and won't help apple sell more.
 
i think this is pretty clear with today rumours..
there will be 2 models iphone 6 and something like 6c..the high end will be sapphire and the 6c not
 
I just hope they still offer a 4" that I can slap a ZAGG screen shield on. It's always worked perfect for me in the past, so there's no reason to change. They fit in my shirt pocket, even in a Mophie case, and have never scratched.
 
SilianRail said:
Didn't the 5C bomb? What's the point in confusing consumers and hurting the brand with garbage devices that nobody wants?
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Yet it still manages to outsell many flagship Android devices from what I've read. The reports of the iPhone 5C being a failure seem greatly exaggerated.

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recklesslife85 said:
Ones the 6 and ones the 6c - you wait and see.
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That's what I've been thinking.
 
Trius said:
I'm not buying it (figuratively speaking). I don't see them releasing two different versions of the same phone, one with sapphire and one without. Maybe on the 5.5 inch only.. but I'd be very surprised if a sapphire display is an optional feature on the 4.7 inch phone.
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Yeah, I think that would lead to confusion at the purchase point. I think it’s OK to have variations across models, but not variants within a model line.

i.e.,

This I could see:

4.7”, all variants, all storage capacity, no sapphire
5.5”, all variants, all storage capacity, sapphire

... but not something like:

4.7” 16 and 32GB no sapphire, 64 and 128GB models, sapphire.

Color gamut, mysterious CPU clock changes and PPI aside, the retina iPad vs. Mini was a simple story: 7.9” vs. 9.7”, they’re the same. This is one is bigger, it’s a little heavier, the display is bigger, this one is [you get the point].
 
Serban said:
i think this is pretty clear with today rumours..
there will be 2 models iphone 6 and something like 6c..the high end will be sapphire and the 6c not
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If there's a 6C, you should've seen the leaks by now. 2 models could be GSM and CDMA.
 
JHankwitz said:
I just hope they still offer a 4" that I can slap a ZAGG screen shield on. It's always worked perfect for me in the past, so there's no reason to change. They fit in my shirt pocket, even in a Mophie case, and have never scratched.
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Yes, they still offer 4" for the next 2 years: 5S/5C.
 
D.T. said:
Yeah, I think that would lead to confusion at the purchase point. I think it’s OK to have variations across models, but not variants within a model line.
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Somehow everybody manages that confusion when buying a laptop. And there are already different storage variants, and with the iPhone you have different option in not only storage, but cellular connectivity as well. Yet no one seems to be confused about those.
 
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