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I don’t agree - there are still lots of businesses who don’t accept mobile payments and lack of universal acceptance is hindering end user adoption.
Actually you do agree. You just read my comment as if I was stating all businesses accept mobile payments now. In fact I was stating the opposite, albeit in the wrong verb tense. I said businesses followed when I should have said businesses are following, kicking and screaming.
 
You mean Apple's "town squares"? No thanks. When they first opened, Apple's stores had a nice workshop vibe. Now they resemble a crowded bus station. The Genius Bar was convenient until they introduced online diagnostics. And shipping a defective product to them for service was less troublesome than waiting in a queue at the store.

the store is awful experience now
 
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If Forstall isn’t one of the 9, then forget it. Apple is rudderless, it’s making money but it’s safe. There’s no passion, and that there is, is fake; see Cook’s forced and false, “We love our users” on the recent ABC interview when questioned about Battery/CPU throttling.

He’s a walking Steve Jobs sound board that doesn’t believe in the words he’s using.

Was Scott an *******? Yes. Was Jobs an *******? Yes. People at Apple are said to no longer “need to fight for the products” (that’s from Bob Burroughs) and that it shows in the lack of care and passion that goes into an Apple product.

Cook has moulded an Apple in his image; boring, monotone, safe and second rate.

Sure, they make a ton of money, most of which comes from previous good faith and fandom, but Cook has always been the numbers guy, never never been the product guy, and the people who are the product guys (Ive, Federighi, Schiller) are just as bad.

Someone mentioned Federighi for the next CEO? No. The guy is a cringeworthy, canned laughter, wannabe stand up comedian.

Bring in someone who doesn’t take ****, who’s arrogant, who only demands the best, who’ll tell people, “That’s ****, do better”, someone who’ll make people fight for their ideas, show passion for their product.

Forstall was onstage at an event recently chatting about the first iPhone and creating it and his eyes, his entire face, lit up. I’ve not seen that genuine passion from anyone at Apple, since Steve passed away.

Yes, Steve chose Tim to succeed him, but we ALL know he’s picked the wrong guy before ...
 
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Just think where Apple could be today, if the "10-year" anniversary iPhones were all-about "10-bit" extended "color" capture & display !

They (Apple's Upper Mgmt) blew it BIG time !

In fact, their pitch could have simply been "check this out, we've now got 10-bit color at 10 years" ! ... even Mark Cuban could have understood that phrase (I believe he was on CNBC earlier today) !


Consider how this would have played-out, starting in Sept 2017, with NO mention of any OLED iPhone:

X: 4.7" LCD for $649, w/ 10-bit color, both capture & display, & with 3 GB of DRAM

X Plus: 5.5" LCD for $749, w/ 10-bit color, both capture & display, & with 4 GB of DRAM

At 10 years, Apple removed the Hardware Home Button, and with it a great capability (the ability to efficiently manage DRAM), and instead gave the world Face ID, & Animoji ... when it (the 10-year iPhones) should have been ALL-ABOUT 10-bit color !

Tim Cook is NOT an intelligent man, and has proven it every step of the way ! ... a well-trained Monkey could run Apple better than Cook does ! ... at least on the strategy side ... cronyism is the ONLY word that could be used to describe Apple's board ... otherwise, they would have acted long ago.

And specifically, it needs to be 10-bit extended color "capture" via AVCaptureVideoDataOutput, or it's meaningless.
Very few people know what 10 bit color even means. It’s commonly referred to as HDR (even if not 100% technically accurate) and that is a much more widely recognized term...
 
Not up to Apple. Complain to your banks. The reason for the initial surge in Apple Pay adoption by CC companies was that it gave them a unified platform (NFC Payments with the same CC fees) where the Big 3 (Amex, MC and VISA) could lock in users. Remember what was in the works by the big retailers... CurrentC. As Apple announced Apple Pay, all of the CurrentC retailers started to remove NFC payments from their POS systems. Win for the credit card companies. Why? Because CurrentC required AHC access to your bank account so there would be no CC fees for them. But AHC access also has no fraud protection. So imagine what would happen if CurrentC got hacked. It's creators MCX were handling Home Depot and Target transactions when they got hacked!

I agree on this - partially. It's not about the banks only, also about the fees raised by Apple. At least this is the case in Germany according to the economy focused media. Yet the banks over here struggle a lot currently and though try to block every competition...well, that's free market economy.
 
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Genuine question. They block apps that are used for pornography but they allow apps like, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, etc.. All of which are used to distribute pornography. Where do they draw the line?
 
I just don't believe they've added enough value to using my credit card via a phone vs using my actual credit card. Either everything in my wallet has to go digital (I'm looking at you drivers license!) or the digital cards have to add more value than physical ones (rewards programs?)...it's pretty much that simple to me.

I'm not disagreeing with your view on this, but I will say that Apple Pay adds a number of features to my debit cards and credit cards that you may have overlooked. The first is security: while I don't think you can leave your cards in the safe at home in the USA just yet, in Canada and Europe I really don't need them, and as a result I feel much more comfortable using the cards in new places, or leaving the cards at home.

Second is speed -- I mostly use my Apple Watch for this, but I can pay for things so much faster than I can getting out my wallet, and getting out my card (which I keep in sleeves that must be removed first, because otherwise the cards wear out faster -- I spend money like crazy!). Works beautifully with most transit systems as well, which is a big time-saver.

Finally, while it has never happened to me thus far, if my iPhone or Watch were to get stolen or just mislaid, that information is very safe (see security above) but also I can track the stolen/mislaid device and likely get it back. I'll never have to call ever credit/debit card issuer and have them put a block on my account and send me new cards (a right hassle) ever again.

I definitely would like to go entirely wallet-free all the time, and would like Apple's Wallet to do more with loyalty/reward cards, but we'll get there -- the fundamentals have to be covered first, and that isn't going to happen until Apple Pay/Contactless Card payments are accepted nearly everywhere.
 
If Forstall isn’t one of the 9, then forget it. Apple is rudderless, it’s making money but it’s safe. There’s no passion, and that there is, is fake; see Cook’s forced and false, “We love our users” on the recent ABC interview when questioned about Battery/CPU throttling.

He’s a walking Steve Jobs sound board that doesn’t believe in the words he’s using.

Was Scott an *******? Yes. Was Jobs an *******? Yes. People at Apple are said to no longer “need to fight for the products” (that’s from Bob Burroughs) and that it shows in the lack of care and passion that goes into an Apple product.

Cook has moulded an Apple in his image; boring, monotone, safe and second rate.

Sure, they make a ton of money, most of which comes from previous good faith and fandom, but Cook has always been the numbers guy, never never been the product guy, and the people who are the product guys (Ive, Federighi, Schiller) are just as bad.

Someone mentioned Federighi for the next CEO? No. The guy is a cringeworthy, canned laughter, wannabe stand up comedian.

Bring in someone who doesn’t take ****, who’s arrogant, who only demands the best, who’ll tell people, “That’s ****, do better”, someone who’ll make people fight for their ideas, show passion for their product.

Forstall was onstage at an event recently chatting about the first iPhone and creating it and his eyes, his entire face, lit up. I’ve not seen that genuine passion from anyone at Apple, since Steve passed away.

Yes, Steve chose Tim to succeed him, but we ALL know he’s picked the wrong guy before ...

Many years ago (early 90s) I was involved in buying a lot of Apple computers for the company I worked for. What we could do with them (and postscript) compared to PCs the rest of company had to use was spectacular really. (We were experimenting with going straight to printing plate while they were bragging about finally getting 256 colours etc.)

We adored the hardware and associated software but hated Apple's attitude to us. Eventually things got so bad that along with a load of other key customers we were invited to a seminar at Stockley Park in order that they could prove they were really listening to us. It was hilarious... An Apple guy stood up and gave a presentation about how wonderful they were which didn't really address our concerns. There was then a question and answer session in which we expressed our concerns one after the other. The Apple bods responded pretty much to each question with the attitude that if we really didn't like what Apple was doing we should basically all just go and buy PCs. Eventually it got pretty heated and the Apple bods made a swift stage exit...

I never really bought in to the one man company thing but perhaps I'm wrong as it's beginning to feel very 1993 again...
 
I'm surprised a Cook successor is already being floated at 'every' shareholder meeting, is he really that old? We certainly need to get someone with a different background than supply chain in the driver seat. Possibly someone with public relations, UX & UI design experience, that and hardware QA. All have been severely lacking over the last few years.

'Tim cook hopes to still be alive to see the elimination of money'

AKA

Tim Cook wants to take all the money in the world pay no tax on it and horde it so there's none left.
 
I think Craig Federighi or Phil Schiller should replace Tim Cook when the time comes, i don't think it will be a long time yet Tim is doing very well with Apple and should stay on as long as possible!
 
Cook admitting "payments taking off slower than we thought" reminds me a lot of how they responded to the trash can Mac Pro not being what pro's wanted. A day late and a dollar short. I just don't believe they've added enough value to using my credit card via a phone vs using my actual credit card. Either everything in my wallet has to go digital (I'm looking at you drivers license!) or the digital cards have to add more value than physical ones (rewards programs?)...it's pretty much that simple to me.
None of what you described is Apple's fault. They can't make businesses accept NFC and drivers licences are regulated per state, so it'll take the states to stop dragging their feet and implement a way for that to happen similar to Iowa. Also, in terms of rewards programs, that's still up to the individual businesses. If I remember correctly, Apple added in the ability to have rewards.
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Right there with ya! If I could have Driver's License, Concealed Weapons Permit, and an E-Key option for my Jeep (either NFC or Bluetooth LE) on my Apple Watch, I wouldn't need a wallet, keys, or phone at all!
None of these are Apple's problem. You can start a Tesla without your key fob and an iPhone app, and your state concealed weapons program just needs to develop either an app or Apple Wallet card for your permit.
 
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Cook also said he hopes he'll still be alive "to see the elimination of money."

Sinister.
 
It's not something that just "comes up". He stated it's on every agenda. As a publicly traded company, and especially one of Apple's size, there's almost always (as there should be) succession plans not just for retirement, but contingency in the case of death, illness, etc.

Exactly. Tim said it's on the agenda of every BOARD meeting. Along with succession planning for other positions. Tim said that one of his most important tasks is to groom multiple successors for the Board to choose from.
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Okay but low-key does anyone else see the guy in the photo provided with the story walking to the SJ theatre with his dog? Curious what the context is there. I thought maybe a service dog, which it very well could be, but the angle doesn’t easily show a harness on the dog stating such a role.

There were 2 or 3 dogs working security (I was there). They had a body harness complete with id tags identical to those that employees wear. We also went through a bag check and metal detectors (which didn't work too well--they seemed to be tuned way up). The breakfast was nice, and we were offered coffee and water while we waited in line to enter the campus as the dogs looked us over.
 
“Apple has internal candidates ready to succeed Tim Cook, which is a topic that comes up at every shareholders meeting.”

I would think most appropriate fit to replace Tim Cook when that time comes, would be Jeff Williams In my opinion.

The guy who does the Star Wars theme song? ;)
 
The added security isn't enough of a feature for you? Personally I don't love using my credit card at smaller stores which might not have a particularly secure set up. Or using them in Taxi Cabs which definitely don't have a secure set up. And since my phone is generally in my hand already as I'm waiting in line, it saves me a step reaching for my wallet.

So I really like Apple Pay.
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The hair pretty much guarantees that he would win any competition for future CEO. I suspect Cook will never want to retire, so Federighi will be too old to be CEO when Cook steps down. But if it were today, I think Fed would get the job.
Other than for a bigger paycheck, what would motivate any high level exec to take the job? I'd ask the same question about someone wanting to be President of the U.S. The money alone can't be the reason. Engineers and tech folks don't usually make the best CEOs, either by inclination or talent. That's why it was Jobs, not Woz', who made the best fit at the helm of Apple. I have no idea who would be the best fit of the current Apple exec's. I think they might be better served getting someone outside the current employee set. As a humorous suggestion, what if Bill Gates were to come out of retirement and take the job? That would be incredible and just ooze of irony, but it wouldn't be much more of a shock than Steve Jobs' comeback.
 
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Is the buy back what they did a while ago when they split our shares?
They've been buying back the past few years. Apple basically buys it's own stock, so then there are less shares of stock in the public, and they save money when paying dividends. They also end up "owning" more of their own company, so other large stockholders can't really force them to do anything. It tends to be good for the company and the stock price.

The split was mostly done to get the price below $100/share for various reasons. Some companies like to keep the price low so typical consumers can buy it. For instance, google price is over $1000/share, so many can't buy a single share.
 
They've been buying back the past few years. Apple basically buys it's own stock, so then there are less shares of stock in the public, and they save money when paying dividends. They also end up "owning" more of their own company, so other large stockholders can't really force them to do anything. It tends to be good for the company and the stock price.

The split was mostly done to get the price below $100/share for various reasons. Some companies like to keep the price low so typical consumers can buy it. For instance, google price is over $1000/share, so many can't buy a single share.

To be clear, existing shareholders end up owning more of the company. Apple retires the shares that it buys back, they aren't held as treasury shares.

So if you own 100,000 shares of AAPL, instead of that representing, say, 0.0017% ownership of Apple (as it might have without a certain amount of shares having been bought back), it might actually (with those shares having been bought back) represent 0.0019% ownership of Apple.
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Security is a huge advantage. While you're not responsible for charges from a stolen card, you're still paying for fraud somewhere (fees, interest, higher retail prices). Besides, I like the idea of giving a big f u to criminals by making it difficult for them to profit off stolen cards/numbers. That and not having to go through the hassle of getting a new card and having to update my details everywhere I use my card.

Apple Pay is also very convenient (at least in Canada where tap & pay cards are accepted almost everywhere). When I go out to the pub with friends I only take my Apple Watch. No wallet or phone to get stolen/lost, I can still pay for everything and if I get an important text/call I can still receive it. It's quite liberating to go out with nothing in my pockets I have to think about.

I think Cook is talking more about the US market, where tap & pay is not nearly as popular as in other countries.

Yeah, convenience is a big part of why I use Apple Pay. I appreciate the increased security as well.

In my experience, using Apply Pay (whether from my iphone or from my Apple Watch) is much quicker than using a physical card. Not only do I not have to carry credit cards and pull them out to use them, but using them - even starting with them in my hand - is slower than using Apple Pay.

Everywhere that I use physical credit cards, there's a delay in the transaction going through. And sometimes I have to sign something. With Apply Pay, the transaction happens meaningfully instantaneously (on my end). I move the iPhone or Apple Watch close to the scanner and, without any perceptible delay, it gives me the indication that the transaction has completed. And, unlike the experiences I've seen others describe, I've never had to do anything else - e.g., sign something or enter a pin or tap to confirm - when I've used Apple Pay.
 
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