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Landscape typing everywhere... that's all I wanted! I'll be getting one in June or July assuming they figure out how to jailbreak 3.0 so I can use it with t-mobile.
 
That's a huge burden on data, surely. 16GB of iTunes syncing over the air?? Maybe over local networks... but then... use USB man!

I personally am interested in syncing music over wifi, preferably automatically on a schedule. What I want to do is have an iPod touch that permanently stays in my car, and have it automatically sync with iTunes shortly before I leave for work every day. I bet something like that might be possible with a jailbroken iPod touch.

I wish Apple would make a car stereo :)
 
Some really great features, I can't think of anything other than flash that I was expecting to eventually come to the iPhone.

With the peer to peer connection does that mean that would allow for (If someone created it) printing from the iPhone to a home network printer? If so SWEET~! If not...awwww....
 
tell me a phone that all that stuff...and ill buy it....let alone one that does what my 3g already does so well....like music..no other phone even comes remotley close
and dont mention the pre cuz it aint even out yet

I also want to know what device has every single feature available to mankind, it sure ain't the Pre. :p
 
It is a big deal, Apple works with different carriers, so they want all of them on board at once which is why it's taking so long.

Most probably not! More likely: AT&T's 3G network can't handle too much traffic, therefore tethering has been forbidden in the US. Apple did not care about other markets (which have much more advanced mobile networks) so there is no tethering support until now. Now they are terribly late with tethering support so why not blame the carriers ;).
 
Landscape typing everywhere... that's all I wanted! I'll be getting one in June or July assuming they figure out how to jailbreak 3.0 so I can use it with t-mobile.

You mean unlock, not jailbreak and AFAIK they still haven't found how to unlock the iPhone 3G unless they have and are holding off on releasing it until the new iPhone comes out like they were planning to do with the iPod Touch 2nd Gen untethered jailbreak.
 
That's a load of ****, have a read of good ol' Wikipedia

Equally, tethering requires NOTHING carrier side. If your phone has a data connection all tethering is, is sharing that data connection over bluetooth. What Apple actually mean is that they're providing the functionality for the carriers to limit/charge on top for. Other than that tethering is purely a phone > computer thing.
Really? So if you were to have a few million more people tethered at once on the network your saying that the carrier would have to do nothing because their infastructure will handle it fine?

The 3G was already reported to force carriers to update simply because of the loads from people browsing, what do you think will happen when even more come flooding in?

If the carrier isn't ready, they aren't ready. Id much rather wait then have crappy service.
 
IIRC, MMS is part of 3G, and since the first-gen iPhone does not support 3G....

As far as the update goes.... It seems that they have addressed just about every complaint people had. The stereo-bluetooth is interesting, I wonder whether iPod touch gets support for that....

The iPhone was one of the few phones that didn't support MMS. 3G is not required at all. Basic flip phones can even send a picture message.
 
I've been p**sed off by DLC for a few years now, especially in console games where these big publishers sell you an unfinished £50 game and then expect another £5 to unlock the rest of it. Thats pretty weak and I'm never going to pay for that.

But if a game cost £5 already and they're going to sell DLC for a couple of extra quid then, that doesn't sound so bad. So long as they don't go ridiculous and stop releasing full games because they could always charge for the rest later (poor, poor practice).

Big thumbs up to everything else though. I don't see any point in MMS now we have rich email on the go, but copy/paste, turn by turn GPS, spotlight is a huge plus. I hope that works with the photo library too.

So Push Notifications work how? You run the app on your phone but when you close it the app carries on running on a server somewhere, and when something "new" occurs in the app it sends a notification to your phone? That sounds kind of cumbersome so it can't be right.
 
The MMS hardware limitation is a software one as they are more than capable of sending and receiving MMS. This is false differentiation by apple and an attempt to force you to upgrade.

They are referring to the ipod touch w/ the hardware comment.
 
Really interested in the Bluetooth and accessories AND STEREO bluetooth.
This opens up a whole new world for the iPhone in the car IMO.

I hate the in-app spam though. I hope we can turn it off, or I'll be buying apps from those that don't have that. It will annoy me. Yet, I have faith that Apple won't let anyone annoy me. I'll withhold judgement.
 
Darn well better be. This was one weak update for us consumers.

Is it too much to ask for Apple to flat out copy the Pre feature-wise? I mean Palm copied Apple with multi-touch and the like.

They did say no to background processes though, didn't they? Please change that, it's the most attractive part of the Pre. GIVE UA MULTI-TASKING! :(

Lets compare the Pre and the iPhone side by side... oh wait.. the Pre isn't out yet....

Go away troll...
 
Really? So if you were to have a few million more people tethered at once on the network your saying that the carrier would have to do nothing because their infastructure will handle it fine?

The 3G was already reported to force carriers to update simply because of the loads from people browsing, what do you think will happen when even more come flooding in?

If the carrier isn't ready, they aren't ready. Id much rather wait then have crappy service.

Data is data is data. There's no difference from 2GB of data usage on your iPhone from 2GB of data usage from tethering. Why should AT&T care how we use that data? Because they want to charge us for it, simple as that.
 
Darn well better be. This was one weak update for us consumers.

Is it too much to ask for Apple to flat out copy the Pre feature-wise? I mean Palm copied Apple with multi-touch and the like.

They did say no to background processes though, didn't they? Please change that, it's the most attractive part of the Pre. GIVE UA MULTI-TASKING! :(

1st: Let's see how well background multitasking works on a real Pre, in real life, with 3rd party apps FIRST.

2nd: The Pre has a MUCH, MUCH faster processor and more RAM. You can bet iPhone 3.0 (the hardware) will also and perhaps that will be a feature (true multitasking for 3rd party apps) in future hardware revisions but it appears it is IMPOSSIBLE for 1st/2nd gen hardware without too many sacrifices.
 
Still, why cant the iPhone 1st gen have stereo bluetooth? It can be done. Going into voicemail with music playing, then select the bluetooth headset. The music would play through it. (In older versions)

Soooo....
 
You are missing the point. Tethering is free to use in (most of) Europe. There is no special plan, nothing to turn on. You pay for a data service (aka GPRS, EDGE, or 3G) and that's it. The carrier does not care what data and from what device you are transmitting. Why should they?

No.

Tethering will never be "officially" free in the US. You can guarantee that. I don't care what Europe does. For any foreseeable future, tethering will incur a cost.

Soooooo, the iPhone is capable, when will AT&T officially allow it?
 
So Push Notifications work how? You run the app on your phone but when you close it the app carries on running on a server somewhere, and when something "new" occurs in the app it sends a notification to your phone? That sounds kind of cumbersome so it can't be right.

1. Apple runs a central Notification server that services push messages to, which in turn are pushed to your phone.
2. A Notification service, as part of the iPhone's OS, always running, receives the notification, which includes the name of the app and the type of notification.
3. The notification is displayed as a badge on the app's icon, text messages, or played as a sound.

The individual apps on your phone don't have to be running for this to happen. Not cumbersome at all.
 
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