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IIRC, MMS is part of 3G, and since the first-gen iPhone does not support 3G....
3G has nothing to do with it. MMS = SMS + WAP access.

Crippled? LOL.

What a warped sense of reality some of you people have. And cheapness.

Ironically the original iPhone owners are paying Apple more money than the 3G owners(overtime), yet we get called cheap because we are getting (potentially) locked out of a feature that should work just fine.
 
3.0 for iPT?

What are the odds that some of this functionality will come to the iPod Touch?
 
1st: Let's see how well background multitasking works on a real Pre, in real life, with 3rd party apps FIRST.

2nd: The Pre has a MUCH, MUCH faster processor and more RAM. You can bet iPhone 3.0 (the hardware) will also and perhaps that will be a feature (true multitasking for 3rd party apps) in future hardware revisions but it appears it is IMPOSSIBLE for 1st/2nd gen hardware without too many sacrifices.
Well said, let's wait and see what the Pre delivers in real life, the new iphone coming in the summer will be faster, let's compare then.
 
No.

Tethering will never be "officially" free in the US. You can guarantee that. I don't care what Europe does. For any foreseeable future, tethering will incur a cost.

Soooooo, the iPhone is capable, when will AT&T officially allow it?

Europe is technologically ahead of North America overall. France is easily 3 years ahead, especially with respect to commerce technology.
 
Great update, but did they discuss things items:

1.) Video recording
2.) Voice Dialing

Sure, MMS and copy/paste are good to have, but voice dialing is IMPERATIVE, especially when trying to attract businesses.

On the positive side, the biggest new feature is the ability to control other hardware. I've always thought how great it would be for TV and stereo manufacturers to built this into their electronics. Then branch into home appliances, thermostats, etc.
 
The MMS hardware limitation is a software one as they are more than capable of sending and receiving MMS. This is false differentiation by apple and an attempt to force you to upgrade.

Says who? I thought it was weird that there would be a hardware limitation that would prevent MMS, but who is going to upgrade just for MMS. If they wanted to force people to upgrade they could just say that all of iPhone 3.0 was unavailable on the 1st gen iPhone.
 
No.

Tethering will never be "officially" free in the US. You can guarantee that. I don't care what Europe does. For any foreseeable future, tethering will incur a cost.

Soooooo, the iPhone is capable, when will AT&T officially allow it?

For my side, I don't care what AT&T (US) does ;). Apple should have a phone at least with features of a phone I can get from my carrier for $1. Till now, it does not have such a phone... (tethering, mms, bluetooth profiles)...
 
I wonder how long take for someone to hack the new mms feature onto the original model phone.

For anyone complaining that this should have come out two years ago, I agree, but consider how much time it took Apple to go from nothing to a working functional device. It's simply taken from then til june to do this thing. Would you rather they simply waited from then til now to release anything at all?

Clearly, they decided let's get it to a point, bare-bones or otherwise, where we can put them out there. If people like em, they'll buy em. If it's a success, we'll be in that much better position further down the road. Because they did. And we did. And they are.
 
That's a load of ****, have a read of good ol' Wikipedia

Equally, tethering requires NOTHING carrier side. If your phone has a data connection all tethering is, is sharing that data connection over bluetooth. What Apple actually mean is that they're providing the functionality for the carriers to limit/charge on top for. Other than that tethering is purely a phone > computer thing.

maybe you are right but this is what gizmodo asked and they aswered

Jason Chen:
Q: Is there a physical hardware problem on the first-gen iPhone that prevents it from doing MMS.
A: It’s a different radio, so it is a physical issue.
 
I'm very unhappy about having to pay for more items in the sims 3... 59p for some extra stuff? You can buy another app for that :l not a decent one, mind.

i thought you made money in the sims, and brought stuff that way anyway :S

-Sam
 
Lets compare the Pre and the iPhone side by side... oh wait.. the Pre isn't out yet....

Go away troll...

You're response is silly. Fact is Pre feature set is more impressive than the iPhone. Whether or not it is out yet is not a good response. Congrats on the copy and paste though! Woo hoo, 2004 for the win Apple!

How about you go away, you spoiled rotten brat? This is one serious update and is the launching ground for some amazing new functionality coming to iPhones everywhere through 3rd-party developers. The OS is just one layer of the user feature set.

Why is this person a spoiled brat for being displeased with the update? All the functionality they are adding has been available elsewhere for years. You should ask yourself why you need to defend apple? The iPhone OS is great because of the interface, it's the functions for the iPhone that are sorely behind the rest of the industry.
 
I wonder how long take for someone to hack the new mms feature onto the original model phone.

For anyone complaining that this should have come out two years ago, I agree, but consider how much time it took Apple to go from nothing to a working functional device. It's simply taken from then til june to do this thing. Would you rather they simply waited from then til now to release anything at all?

Clearly, they decided let's get it to a point, bare-bones or otherwise, where we can put them out there. If people like em, they'll buy em. If it's a success, we'll be in that much better position further down the road. Because they did. And we did. And they are.

Can't you already jailbreak and get a MMS app?
 
I bet my money on Apple adding some new hardware-specific features by the time the new handset ships. So stay tuned (or hold on for another 3 months).

But I'm pretty siked about all the new APIs added to the OS. Apps that talk directly to accessories will open A LOT innovation. Just off the top of my head, I can think of things like multi-touch DJ-ing, video conferencing, high-rez camera add-ons, etc. The new APIs will blow the Pre OS out of the water. For now.

Apple also added a lot of new features that make this a more business-friendly phone, like search in email, landscape keyboard, syncing of notes, better calender-ing, push notifications, etc.

And adding new business models to the App store should make developers happy, especially those who've been complaining about how 99-cent apps dominate the app store.
 
That's a load of ****, have a read of good ol' Wikipedia

Equally, tethering requires NOTHING carrier side. If your phone has a data connection all tethering is, is sharing that data connection over bluetooth. What Apple actually mean is that they're providing the functionality for the carriers to limit/charge on top for. Other than that tethering is purely a phone > computer thing.


You can't be that dense. On both topics.
 
maybe you are right but this is what gizmodo asked and they aswered

Jason Chen:
Q: Is there a physical hardware problem on the first-gen iPhone that prevents it from doing MMS.
A: It’s a different radio, so it is a physical issue.

You honestly expect them to say, "oh yeah it is due to us wanting them to upgrade to the new iPhone". do you?
 
i am on a family plan (4 people) through ATT. Seeing as MMS will cost money. How much roughly will mms cost?

I pay $20 a month for unlimited texting for one phone on my family plan. I think there's a $30/month unlimited texting for all phones plan as well.

**I've been doing this for some years, but I don't have an iPhone. I liked having MMS years ago :p
 
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