Highly considering an iPad Pro...Worth it?

[emembee]

Doesn't command+tab do the same thing?

On my mini the cmd-tab only shows maybe 6 apps, definitely not all running ones, obviously can't speak for the pro as don't have it yet . Other issue with create would be folding it and using touch/stylus, how easy is it?

In summary, I think I need to decide if I will use the pro more with keyboard or with touch, if the latter then get apple, else get logitech ...

 

[mrex]

Stick with a laptop if you want to have a keyboard and mouse intermediate between you and the device. The iPad is designed for touch, it is that sense of direct contact which makes the experience immersive.

Why do we have even a keyboard then, ypu can type with the on screen keyboard?

For me the biggest problem with ipad is the lack of the mouse and hence i have to use the ipad to control the cursor or navigating by touching the screen when mirroring the screen.

 

[Night Spring]

On my mini the cmd-tab only shows maybe 6 apps, definitely not all running ones, obviously can't speak for the pro as don't have it yet . Other issue with create would be folding it and using touch/stylus, how easy is it?

In summary, I think I need to decide if I will use the pro more with keyboard or with touch, if the latter then get apple, else get logitech ...

Ok. Cmd+tab on the Pro does show only the last 6 or so apps (haven't counted). But are you sure this key on the Logitech shows ALL running apps? Have you seen it in action? And if it does bring up the full multitasking view, can you "swipe" through the apps from the keyboard?

Anyway, you are right that the Logitech is for people who want to use the iPP mostly with the keyboard. Also, I believe it almost doubles the weight of the iPP. I don't know whether you've taken that into consideration.

 

[Sam5281]

I've spent too much time and money in the last few months on getting my Apple set-up right. I've finally settled on:

1. iMac -- I've been without a desktop Mac for two years. I can't believe I survived! The new retina iMac is fantastic. No regrets.

2. iPad Pro -- Very impressive, but mostly using it as a consumption device. My old iPad Air 2 looks comically small to me now. Bought the Smart Keyboard but sent it back: I can type well enough on the virtual keyboard, and I'm not really using it for content creation so rarely need to type. Bought the Apple Pencil: I'm sure it's great but I hardly use it.

3. MacBook (new retina 12") -- I had hoped the iPad Pro would be my new "laptop" but it just didn't work out for me. I use Microsoft Excel all the time and the iOS version is too cut-down for me and clunky to use. I occasionally use Adobe InDesign and that's not available on iOS. Plus I'm just so used to using a laptop. It's so much easier to type on, especially when I'm half-working and watching tv and it's literally on my lap.

Of the three, for me the iPad Pro is the luxury which it is difficult to justify. Had I not bought it from John Lewis (in the UK) who are bloody awful at taking things back and giving refunds I might have sent it back.

But that's not to say it's not a great piece of kit. I think the iPad and the MacBook are two different things: they have individual strengths and weaknesses. Most people could probably survive with one or the other. As an Apple junkie I've gone for both. The iPad Pro is great for watching movies in bed, much better than the MacBook would be. And sometimes it's nice to interact directly with content via a touch-screen, that being limited to a trackpad.

Oh, I really like the iPad Pro in split-screen mode: that works very nicely when I'm teaching.

I think this pretty much sums up all I've been looking for. (Sorry not to reply to each in the group talk - didn't realize it would generate this many responses).

Main benefactor I'm looking for out this is the ability to work on documents / type easily from other spaces in my home IE: Couch / or somewhere more relaxed after sitting at a desk for 5 hours straight. As I said my MBP force shut down on me the other day after what I think to be an overheating/breathing issue after working on it resting on a pillow on my couch (vents could not breath).

Specs on my current MBP: Late 2013 - Retina - 16GB - 2.3 Core i7

Maybe I am better off looking into a new retina 12" macbook - though though I'd most probably experience the overheating if in the same working environment. I can see how it would be difficult to navigate an iPadpro/ even with smart keyboard on a an other environment then a desk setting.

 

[sjleworthy]

i love my Pro. if it was at all possible i'd probably procreate with it, but, if i didn't have powerful works computers at home and needed a laptop for my personal life, I'd probably plump on a macbook rather than an ipad, purely on a software issue.

but, because i have zero need to a laptop the Pro is just the ticket.

 

[Leo90]

It is worth it and it will replace your MBP in several occasions specially for travelling. However, I recommend getting the 128GB model.

UPDATE: On the last day I could return my iPP, I decided to do so. It is a really nice device but it was not worth the 800 pounds I dropped on it. I would've kept it for sure if it was 700 pounds. Anyway, I got an iPad Air 2 and I am doing eveything I used to do on a Pro but with increased portability.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

I have a desktop Mac and just purchased an iPad Pro 128GB for on the go (with the funds from selling my MacBook Pro). I absolutely adore my iPad Pro (I also have the Pencil and a decent Bluetooth keyboard. I would buy this ten times over. Even with a glass screen protector, the pencil is perfect for art and note-taking. I code my website, write (Ulysses and eventually Scrivener, but Ulysses works right now). For my use case (where I use my desktop a lot of the time), the iPad Pro is perfect. It has completely replaced my MBP.

 

[Sam5281]

UPDATE: *HELP*

Okay - actually writing this in fear as my MBP just restarted itself on it's own. Its in it's Twelve South holder / connected to Thunder-display - so overheating not possible as I reported similar behavior while using on my couch.

Am college student writing many research oriented papers (work in pages) - and if it were not for my habitual OCD habit of saving documents every 10 minutes - my work would be completely gone. Might be a topic for another thread but this is scary - and again making me consider another device.

 

[Night Spring]

I can see how it would be difficult to navigate an iPadpro/ even with smart keyboard on a an other environment then a desk setting.

If you are holding the iPP on your lap with the smart keyboard, reaching up to the screen to navigate shouldn't be difficult at all. In fact, reaching for a mouse on a desktop will force you to make larger arm movements than reaching out to tap the screen.

 

[Cnasty]

So I just left the Apple Store in Dallas after finally getting a good 30 minutes alone with an iPP. Kids and wife usually rush me out of the store

Anyways, what a great device. I tried the pencil for the first time and loved the ability to browse the Internet with it and scroll and such. There were a lot of scratches on the screen so worried over time the pencil may cause some of that to occur. Either way it would be a great addition for work and marking up work agendas but would probably get a screen protector.

Keyboard was ok. It was a little too tight for my liking and it didn't feel very good to type on but this was a very short demo and would take time to get used to. I did love the form factor when folded and as a display holder. Would probably pair with silicon back case for complete , thin coverage.

I know color is subjective but I have only bought space gray Apple items ever before but to me the white looks fantastic on such a big device for notes, Internet browsing and how it meshes with iOS. Black didn't look as good to me and I never watch movies on it but would read a lot so maybe white is better.

How did you guys decide???

Moral of the story, I didn't leave with one as I still have a 2015 rMBP and need to decide if I am keeping it around or not with the pro. I'm so wishy washy.

 

[The Game 161]

So I just left the Apple Store in Dallas after finally getting a good 30 minutes alone with an iPP. Kids and wife usually rush me out of the store

Anyways, what a great device. I tried the pencil for the first time and loved the ability to browse the Internet with it and scroll and such. There were a lot of scratches on the screen so worried over time the pencil may cause some of that to occur. Either way it would be a great addition for work and marking up work agendas but would probably get a screen protector.

Keyboard was ok. It was a little too tight for my liking and it didn't feel very good to type on but this was a very short demo and would take time to get used to. I did love the form factor when folded and as a display holder. Would probably pair with silicon back case for complete , thin coverage.

I know color is subjective but I have only bought space gray Apple items ever before but to me the white looks fantastic on such a big device for notes, Internet browsing and how it meshes with iOS. Black didn't look as good to me and I never watch movies on it but would read a lot so maybe white is better.

How did you guys decide???

Moral of the story, I didn't leave with one as I still have a 2015 rMBP and need to decide if I am keeping it around or not with the pro. I'm so wishy washy.

I decided I wanted it to match with my iPhone. Liking going black so far. Still got to wait longer for the pencil though.

 

[artfossil]

I know color is subjective but I have only bought space gray Apple items ever before but to me the white looks fantastic on such a big device for notes, Internet browsing and how it meshes with iOS. Black didn't look as good to me and I never watch movies on it but would read a lot so maybe white is better.

How did you guys decide???

White phone. White iPad Air 2. White Watch band. White wireless earphones. So, not a hard choice to pick . . . white. I do think the white looks very smart with the Apple Smart Keyboard.

 

[Cnasty]

White phone. White iPad Air 2. White Watch band. White wireless earphones. So, not a hard choice to pick . . . white. I do think the white looks very smart with the Apple Smart Keyboard.

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I actually love the Smart Cover, silicon combo in white with the white ipp as it looks amazing.

Decided I want to try the white so this may be the combo I go with.

 

[upritbass]

Let's be real clear here ... it is nothing more than an oversized iPad ... bears absolutely no resemblance to a portable computer.

How funny. Let's be real clear here ... the iPP is a portable computer, unless the definition of "computer" has changed recently.

I'm just upset that there is no interface for paper tape. Or card reader. Or 7-track tape. Or 9-track tape. Or... Times change, interfaces change, it's still a computer.

 

[The Game 161]

I actually love the Smart Cover, silicon combo in white with the white ipp as it looks amazing.

Decided I want to try the white so this may be the combo I go with.

I think it will be worth it no matter what you choose

 

[bnmcj1]

12 inch screen is just too small at laptop distance. Feels so cramped. Still, the iPad Pro is just a toy. Would not own any of them, but MacBook would be more useful. To use an iPad Pro for work is possible, but only creates problems. Yes, you can solve those problems, but tasks could be done 10 times faster on a MacBook.

 

[nightlong]

12 inch screen is just too small at laptop distance. Feels so cramped. Still, the iPad Pro is just a toy. Would not own any of them, but MacBook would be more useful. To use an iPad Pro for work is possible, but only creates problems. Yes, you can solve those problems, but tasks could be done 10 times faster on a MacBook.

Which tasks? Your tasks, not everybody's! Like a lot of other people I do professional work on iPads, they are certainly not "toys" to me. They do some things better than computers, and vice versa, they are different tools.

 

[bnmcj1]

Which tasks? Your tasks, not everybody's! Like a lot of other people I do professional work on iPads, they are certainly not "toys" to me. They do some things better than computers, and vice versa, they are different tools.

Every time a keyboard is connected to an iPad, you know tasks get really slow compared to a true computer. The experience is horrible.

 

[sjleworthy]

Every time a keyboard is connected to an iPad, you know tasks get really slow compared to a true computer. The experience is horrible.

Its all personal i suppose.

The portability and the keyboard for my Pro makes admin for my business just as fast and easy as any laptop. I'm especially loving it with my new wireless laser printer.
Where do you get your info from? Pro and keyboard are as fast and efficient as any other 'computer' on the market. Perhaps your demo was broken.

This 'toy' certainly pays its official way in my business. Yes, the core of my business is handled by pc's (even powerfull laptops are useless here) but the day to day running and client / contract managing is certainly well covered by my 'toy'
Ultimately, my pc's can more than handle the Pro's tasks, but the portibility is great. I can manage my business life wherever and whenever. My pc's dont let me do this, and a laptop is too overspecced for this too.

 

[Night Spring]

Every time a keyboard is connected to an iPad, you know tasks get really slow compared to a true computer. The experience is horrible.

What? Have you even used an iPad Pro with a keyboard? Nothing slows down! Typing a page of text takes the same time on a computer as on the iPad. The bottleneck is your typing speed.

 

[The Game 161]

Every time a keyboard is connected to an iPad, you know tasks get really slow compared to a true computer. The experience is horrible.

Not with the pro it isn't

 

[nightlong]

Every time a keyboard is connected to an iPad, you know tasks get really slow compared to a true computer. The experience is horrible.

Your experience was perhaps unique. I have never experienced this and have never heard of it before in these forums or from people I know who use iPads in many different ways. And yet you say "every time a keyboard is connected to an iPad .... " as though you, with no time for them and wouldn't own one, have been conducting a major international study of this phenomena.

 

[emembee]

Moral of the story, I didn't leave with one as I still have a 2015 rMBP and need to decide if I am keeping it around or not with the pro. I'm so wishy washy.

Unless money is the overriding factor (which I agree may be so ignore this!), it makes more sense to use as an addition to a mac or pc - then anything you really feel you can't do with iOs, just switch over.

With iCloud, Dropbox and OneDrive, so much is now covered with document availability and you can pick up where you left off. I know there are hoops to go through to move some stuff around, iCloud apps are the worst IMO, they won't open files in Dropbox, not sure if this is Apple or 3rd party though.

Also very quick entries or trying to get complex stuff into Excel may be a problem but there are compromises on all hardware. Can't wait to get mine (Tue/Wed this week).

 

[Night Spring]

iCloud apps are the worst IMO, they won't open files in Dropbox, not sure if this is Apple or 3rd party though.

What do you mean? Copying files to and from Dropbox is relatively simple, and I recently discovered that iWorks files can now be kept in Dropbox, so you never have to have them in iCloud.

 

[bnmcj1]

Not with the pro it isn't

Yes it is.. Gorilla arm is a faulty input. Copy, paste and selecting things takes forever compared to a mouse/trackpad.