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So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.

Wow, did you even read Glen's post?
 
So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.
What exactly are you reading into his post, because I really can't see it?
 
And that's why I can't hate Paris. I feel desperately sorry for her.

So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.

It seems to me you missed the conclusion of his post, which is that he doesn't hate her at all. Or is this also not clear?
 
Let's be honest here. Hilton's representation and her family aren't the only ones trying to turn this into a circus. The justice system is also to blame for their incompetence. I applaud the judge for trying to do the right thing, but this little two-step by the sheriff is inexcusable.

May I quote an article from TheRegister: However, the Los Angeles City Attorney was none too impressed with Hilton's release, and filed a petition "demanding LA's Superior Court to show why Sheriff Lee Baca should not be held in contempt of court for releasing Ms Hilton".
 
Does this mean she deserves to be trashed and put down the way she has lately? I can't tell you how many times i've seen death-threats or death-related jokes saying she should die, that she should be hanged. This is nothing but hate that people are spewing and it's wrong. Nobody deserves to be treated this way, no matter how rich they are.

Fact is that all her life she is treated the way she is because she is rich, and for no other reason. Would she be invited to any party if she wasn't rich? Would people sell porn videos of her if she wasn't rich? Would anyone buy clothes she sells if she wasn't rich? People either seek attention or they don't. If they seek attention, like she does, they can't complain about attention when it doesn't suit them.

Apart from that, I can't see how you would think that she is being treated badly in any way. 45 days in jail for dangerous and drunken driving in a very heavy car with enormous horse powers, while on a three year driving ban, when she has apparently been driving in spite of being banned all the time, doesn't seem inappropriate at all.
 
Do they keep murderers in minimum security jails in the USA? Over here those are full of shoplifters and the like :confused:

According to the LA Sheriff, something like 90% of the people in custody in county jails are merely awaiting trial. In that light, I do think Paris is getting harsher treatment than anyone else would have in LA county, because the jails are so packed that they release most people with similar charges into the monitoring program.

They should have come up with a compromise where after serving a portion in the jail, where she would be released into the monitoring program, but at a half-way house or something, and not her own residence.
 
45 days in jail for dangerous and drunken driving in a very heavy car with enormous horse powers, while on a three year driving ban, when she has apparently been driving in spite of being banned all the time, doesn't seem inappropriate at all.

It is inappropriate.

It is much too lenient.
 
paris who

sorry to barge in on this thread without reading much first, but I just gotta say, "I can't stand the slut....She is the type of bitch that seems to hang her funky bits out at any every opportunity for every advantage..... gives our daughters SweetFAll to aspire to and now I can't help laughing when I see her crying on the news because she has to go and do her time.....What a wimp, thinks she can do the crime cause she can afford to get outta doin the time. *uc* her. She deserves every minute she got, and she's lucky she doesn't have to do extra for the bad behaviour she's done on the out-side"... end if end.rant
 
What exactly are you reading into his post, because I really can't see it?

It seems to me you missed the conclusion of his post, which is that he doesn't hate her at all. Or is this also not clear?
Let me condense the post in question (no disrespect to the OP, who isn't actually arguing with me. Not yet, anyway.):

I hate [things applicable to Paris]
I hate [things applicable to Paris]
I hate [things applicable to Paris]
But actually, folks, I don't hate her. I just feel sorry for her.

I'm not arguing she shouldn't be subject to the full penalty of law - whatever it takes to have a permanent effect on her - but when brutal, animalistic, Nazi-like mentality kicks in I have to resist.
 
According to the LA Sheriff, something like 90% of the people in custody in county jails are merely awaiting trial. In that light, I do think Paris is getting harsher treatment than anyone is would have in LA county, because the jails are so packed that they release most people with similar charges into the monitoring program.

They should have come up with a compromise where after serving a portion in the jail, where she would be released into the monitoring program, but at a half-way house or something, and not her own residence.

She drove drunk, she showed no remorse, and she ignored the judges orders (kept driving and getting caught, and took no DUI classes.)

She was sentenced to jail because of those three things, and when she got the back door rich kid deal with the LA Sheriff anyone can see the judge going nuclear.

Luckily the judge calmed down and didn't cite Paris for contempt for not showing up in court the next day and the Sheriff for ignoring his order of "no home detention."

I doubt the judge sees her as anything more than the typical lying sack of alcoholic **** at this point, because she is sure taking the normal stance as one in court these days.

Ty Pennington likely will get a better deal than her for his DUI, since so far he has owned up to it, all he has to do is follow through on it and make the effort to comply.

As far as her getting harsher treatment for a DUI, anyone who goes before a judge time after time on the same DUI will get slammed at some point.
 
She drove drunk, she showed no remorse, and she ignored the judges orders (kept driving and getting caught, and took no DUI classes.)

She was sentenced to jail because of those three things, and when she got the back door rich kid deal with the LA Sheriff anyone can see the judge going nuclear...

I guess until we have statistics to back up Baca's claim that 90% of his inmates are waiting for trial and that the majority of the other 10% are violent offenders, we won't know exactly how much (if any) of a rich-kid deal there was. I have a feeling that the extent of a rich-kid deal is that she could afford to bring in her own doctors where the majority of inmates couldn't afford to do that. Also, the sheriff's decision to allow the monitoring at her palace was stupid...if a shift to monitoring was to occur, they should have found a more appropriate residence.

However, if the sheriff is correct went he says that most people with similar offenses are shifted to the monitoring program after serving 10% of their sentence, then Paris is being treating more severely that other LA county inmates.

I personally would love it if all offenders carried out there complete sentence in jail, and also would have loved it if her sentence was a little harsher. But apparently that's a rarity for non-violent offenders in LA county.

The perfect solution would have been to keep Paris in the monitoring program until her fellow celebutant DUI offenders Ritchie and Lohan are sentenced, and sentence them all to a 150 mph head on collision driving Honda Civics on Pay-Per-View, proceeds going to MADD.
 
The perfect solution would have been to keep Paris in the monitoring program until her fellow celebutant DUI offenders Ritchie and Lohan are sentenced, and sentence them all to a 150 mph head on collision driving Honda Civics on Pay-Per-View, proceeds going to MADD.

I am generally a very forgiving, kind, loving kind of person. But the above strangely makes me chuckle.
 
I However, if the sheriff is correct went he says that most people with similar offenses are shifted to the monitoring program after serving 10% of their sentence, then Paris is being treating more severely that other LA county inmates.
She pissed the judge off, most people are idiots, but they don't piss the judge off.
 
I think a lot of you don't realise how much of a shock it is for her to go from her every day life style to an 8' X 12' cell with a stainless steel toilet bolted to the wall.

She's in there all by herself with absolutely nothing to do and no one to talk to until she gets to go outside for one hour a day. Just try to put yourself in her place for a moment and think about it. How would you feel?

She's never been incarcerated before in her entire life. She's never had to endure any form of punishment what-so-ever. Can you just imagine the kind of shock value she's experiencing right now?

I think the same could be said for most of us here. It would certainly be a shock to me to go from sleeping 6AM-11AM, using my PowerBook to post here and other places, to having a stainless steel toilet about 2 feet from my bed, and a cell mate that may or may not want to make me his bitch. I really doubt that if I did happen to go to jail (for something I did), I would have any petitions going around asking The Don to let me out.
 
I saw on the news that she said she wasn't going to appeal and would serve out her 45 day sentence in full. Guess she had enough.

Also saw that the sheriff that let her out after only serving 3 days has a history of getting "donations" from the Hilton family. Uh-oh.
 
So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.

not just a nice car. that chick has cars that any guys/gurls would want (L: 360 spider R: slr mclaren):

paris-hilton-mercedes-slr-04.jpg


i've seen her driving a range rover as well if coupes ain't your cup of tea...
 
not just a nice car. that chick has cars that any guys/gurls would want (L: 360 spider R: slr mclaren):

paris-hilton-mercedes-slr-04.jpg


i've seen her driving a range rover as well if coupes ain't your cup of tea...

She received $2m plus a Ferrari (I think it was a 360 Spider, but red) for lending her name to a pair of clubs (Miami and LA I think). All she has to do is show up twice a year.
 
Paris Hilton's statement (taken from TMZ.com) June 9th, 2007

Today I told my attorneys not to appeal the judge's decision. While I greatly appreciate the Sheriff's concern for my health and welfare, after meeting with doctors I intend to serve my time as ordered by the judge.

This is by far the hardest thing I have ever done. During the past several days, I have had a lot of time to reflect and have already learned a bitter, but important lesson from this experience.

As I have said before, I hope others will learn from my mistake. I have also had time to read the mail from my fans. I very much appreciate all of their good wishes and hope they will keep their letters coming.

I must also say that I was shocked to see all of the attention devoted to the amount of time I would spend in jail for what I had done by the media, public and city officials. I would hope going forward that the public and the media will focus on more important things, like the men and women serving our country in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places around the world.
 
Paris Hilton's statement (taken from TMZ.com) June 9th, 2007

It's great that this is what she's saying, but what i want to see is if she actually applies it to her own life. But that last bit is true, why do we care so much? Much more pressing matters going on in the world.
 
why do we care so much? Much more pressing matters going on in the world.
"I would hope going forward that the public and the media will focus on more important things, like the men and women serving our country in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places around the world."

Move on to something else with substance? How substantive should it be?

"According to preliminary data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), in 2006, 17,941 people were killed in alcohol-related crashes - an average of one every half-hour. These deaths constituted approximately 41 percent of the 43,300 total traffic fatalities. Drunk (those at or above an illegal BAC of .08) drivers were involved in 13990 fatalities in 2006." MADD Online Stats

We care because of the number of fatalities caused by irresponsible, self centered drink and drivers who sneer at the suggestion of justice evoked by a court of law while they insist they are really not part of a growing problem, believe society should wink at their crime, minimize its significance and focus on other important, pressing matters.

Ms. Hilton's scenario was magnified because of her celebrity status, it's true. But it still is representative of a legitimate problem.
 
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