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So I was thinking and wanted to see what your thoughts were. Do you think the 7+ (given same storage and color as the 8+) will hold its value higher/ higher demand in used market in 1-2 yrs?

The reason I say this is because the rear glass replacement cost on the 8 is much higher than 7 and in 1-2 years time, it will be hard for someone to purchase AC when buying used.

The only way I can see 8 depreciating less/ have more used market demands is if 3rd parties will figure out how to replace the rear glass in a cost effective way- but it’s hard to imagine since the rear glass is meshed together with other pieces of hardware on the phone (correct me if I’m wrong on this).

Are the 7 the last ‘durable, cost effective to fix’ iPhones?

Overall the used phone markets have dropped- even iPhones are cheaper in the used market than in the past, so I’m not saying any iPhones will hold value for extended amount of time. Additionally I love the 8/8+, but wanted to hear your thoughts on this topic. Thanks
 
So I was thinking and wanted to see what your thoughts were. Do you think the 7+ (given same storage and color as the 8+) will hold its value higher/ higher demand in used market in 1-2 yrs?

The reason I say this is because the rear glass replacement cost on the 8 is much higher than 7 and in 1-2 years time, it will be hard for someone to purchase AC when buying used.

The only way I can see 8 depreciating less/ have more used market demands is if 3rd parties will figure out how to replace the rear glass in a cost effective way- but it’s hard to imagine since the rear glass is meshed together with other pieces of hardware on the phone (correct me if I’m wrong on this).

Are the 7 the last ‘durable, cost effective to fix’ iPhones?

Overall the used phone markets have dropped- even iPhones are cheaper in the used market than in the past, so I’m not saying any iPhones will hold value for extended amount of time. Additionally I love the 8/8+, but wanted to hear your thoughts on this topic. Thanks

I don’t think people care about repairability.

The 7 plus is a slower and older model without features like wireless charging and so it’s worth less than a 8 plus today and that will continue.
 
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I don’t think people care about repairability.

The 7 plus is a slower and older model without features like wireless charging and so it’s worth less than a 8 plus today and that will continue.

Further, although it's only a piece of the big picture (and the most important piece might be RAM, which is the same on the 7 and 8), the SOC in the 8 is dramatically faster than the 7. I doubt many of us would notice it today in every day use, but it should give the 8 some legs in terms of future iOS updates.
 
Why would the lower spec device retain higher value?

The value curve has nothing to do with the original price or specs. A $25000 work truck would retain a larger portion of its value after a few years as compared to a $90000 Lincoln Navigator.
 
The value curve has nothing to do with the original price or specs. A $25000 work truck would retain a larger portion of its value after a few years as compared to a $90000 Lincoln Navigator.
Thats a complete apples to oranges comparison. We're talking about smartphones (apples to apples actually). The newer spec device with more features will always have a higher value - it's not rocket science.
 
Thats a complete apples to oranges comparison. We're talking about smartphones (apples to apples actually). The newer spec device with more features will always have a higher value - it's not rocket science.

That wasn't the OP's question. He was asking about which phone would "hold" value better. Obviously he would pay less for the 7+ compared to the 8+ today, and then its a matter of applying the depreciation rate for the 7+ and 8+ into the future, before you can arrive at the held value at any given future point. The depreciation rate can change in the future too.
 
Thats a complete apples to oranges comparison. We're talking about smartphones (apples to apples actually). The newer spec device with more features will always have a higher value - it's not rocket science.
First year depreciation hit tends to be the largest particularly if you've got top storage.
 
I think by next year same time, both iPhone 7 and 8 will have roughly the same resell value of roughy around $300.

Apple phones don't retain so much value these days compared to 4-5 years ago.

Heck I purchased Pixel 2 for half price within 2 months of release from OLX. I still use iPhone 7 Plus as primary.

My friend already uses this strategy to buy 1-2 month used phones with original receipt from used market and score 30-40% discounts. I think it makes sense considering the astronomical launch prices.
 
I think it’s worth noting the 6 and 6S have different resale prices today in the used market, so why wouldn’t the 7 and 8 at any point in the future?
 
It's also hard to guess what the 2018 iPhone lineup will be; SE2 - 7 - 8 - "LCD bezel-less" - X ("Series 2"? with Plus model?). It was easier to predict in the past.

Anyway, I bought a Jet Black 256GB 7 Plus just a month ago for 550 euros. That's a steal as far as I'm concerned, not too worried about future resale value.
 
It really depends on if the next iOS update doesn't work as well on the iPhone 7, or if the iOS AR ecosystem advances fast enough to where the iPhone 8 has an advantage. If those two things aren't the case, I can see an iPhone 7 with a replaced battery selling at the same price as an iPhone 8 in late 2018 or early 2019.
 
Thanks for all the replies!

Firstly, in regards to repairability, I think there will be people that care about that- I mean, take the X for example. Without AC it costs around $500 to replace the screen- for me personally, a piece of info like that will make me reconsider my purchase decision.

As for 8+ vs 7+, i should of better phrased the question- I should of asked whether or not the used market will demand the 7+ more vs the 8+ due to its repairability and chances of 8’s back cracking easier than 7 (since 7 is All aluminum).

I just feel that the depreciation for both phones after first year is approximately the same but since the 8 was announced and it’s glass back, I wonder if 7 has bounced back up in value a bit more due to overall lower ownership cost for the second hand owner vs 8.

Thanks
 
Thanks for all the replies!

Firstly, in regards to repairability, I think there will be people that care about that- I mean, take the X for example. Without AC it costs around $500 to replace the screen- for me personally, a piece of info like that will make me reconsider my purchase decision.

As for 8+ vs 7+, i should of better phrased the question- I should of asked whether or not the used market will demand the 7+ more vs the 8+ due to its repairability and chances of 8’s back cracking easier than 7 (since 7 is All aluminum).

I just feel that the depreciation for both phones after first year is approximately the same but since the 8 was announced and it’s glass back, I wonder if 7 has bounced back up in value a bit more due to overall lower ownership cost for the second hand owner vs 8.

Thanks

Anecdotally, I have heard of far fewer “cracked backs” with the iPhone 8 (and X) relative to the 4 and 4s models. I broke a few iPhone 4s glass backs myself. Maybe the glass is really harder.
 
I had this dilemma coming from Android. I wanted a 7+ for the glass back, but I went with the 8+ for the better specs.

2 years from now we will have the a13 on iOS 13. A 7+ and 8+ will probably both be lumped together as old lcd screen iPhones.

If they made an 8+ with metal back I would have it.
 
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