Home button on back?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by MrXiro, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. MrXiro macrumors 68040

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    You think Apple will ever move the Home button and fingerprint sensor to the back of the phone?

    If they do that they can thin out the top and bottom bezels and thus make a smaller footprint on the phone. It'd definitely make the 5.5 inch model a little less unwieldy.

    Just a thought.
     
  2. Honey Badger macrumors 6502a

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    No.
     
  3. KuchiKopi macrumors regular

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    That would be the ugliest franken-phone imaginable. If Apple did this, I'd move to Android on day one.
     
  4. heisenberg123 macrumors 603

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    if you look at the inside of the phone there is not a lot of wasted space, the home button is not the only thing in the bottom area, and the top has 2 cameras and a ear piece

    the battery is already too small to some people and the current battery fills the whole space between the top and bottom bezel

    not sure its doable
     
  5. MrXiro thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I can think of a few Android phones that already have the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone. think about it... there is a lot of bezel at the top and bottom of the phone. You can have a shorter phone that is almost all screen but still properly proportioned.

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    Well with a new design would be new placement of parts, also they'd probably just shrink the die of the processor down some more for better battery life. Not to mention the "Plus" models have more than enough battery life currently.

    They could also give the Home button less "throw" so it doesn't push down as far...

    My thought is just that they're probably not going to go too much thinner with these phones... but look into shrinking the bezels and foot print.
     
  6. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    It would be pretty awkward scanning your thumb while looking at the screen for confirmation.
     
  7. mercuryjones macrumors 6502a

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    They will either go this route, or figure out a way to integrate the fingerprint reader into the display itself.
     
  8. sonicrobby macrumors 68020

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    or use your index... which would be placed behind the phone anyway...
     
  9. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    So have a solution that is only convenient with one finger?

    The top and the bottom bezels really don't bother me so I'm fine with it the way it is although integrating the scanner in the display sounds really cool.
     
  10. sonicrobby macrumors 68020

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    Im just saying, why would you assume to only use your thumb? Any of the other 4 fingers would be viable for a scanner on the back.
     
  11. myscrnnm macrumors 65816

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    Seems like a step backwards to me. By having the fingerprint reader on the front, I can unlock my phone even when it's resting on a desk or table. And the top and bottom bezels are there for a reason; so you can rest your thumbs there when holding the phone, especially in landscape mode.

    I'm all for making the bezels slightly slimmer (since almost every other phone out there has done so), but I don't think you need to move the fingerprint reader to the back to accomplish this.
     
  12. MrXiro thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I do tend to do this too. Unlocking while the phone is on a desk... though they could also implement something like the double tap on the screen and unlock via passcode which is still around when you swipe right on the home screen.

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    This article I read has some interesting features too in regards to fingerprint sensors. The phone itself has it on the back, but that isn't the point of the article.

    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/131...ingerprint-to-change-the-world-of-smartphones
     
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  14. ET iPhone Home macrumors 68040

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    Please do the world a favor and don't ever take up product design. :p:p
     
  15. scaredpoet macrumors 604

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    Yes, and they are neither popular nor ergonomic.

    i guess that depends on your definition of "a lot." If you look at the progression of the the front face of iPhone models over the life the product line, bezels have shrunken quite a bit.

    And this boils down to something purely subjective: Is "all screen" really a good thing? I don't think it is... I prefer to have something my fingers can grip on to without accidentally activating something on the screen. This is why the Samsung Galaxy Note Edge feels like a bad idea. I can easily see my fingers gripping the edge of the phone and interacting when I don't want it to.


    There can certainly be more shaving of the size of the bezel. Whether that makes sense is a matter of individual taste I guess. Personally I don't like the idea of having to reaching around the back of my phone to get my fingerprint scanned, when the back is currently something I almost never look at when I'm using my phone.
     
  16. ravage73 macrumors newbie

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    no. i had the lg g3 and while it was innovative, it just wasnt practical for everyday use.
    it would be cool to make the whole screen the fingerprint sensor.
     
  17. vgamedude macrumors 6502a

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    I want very tiny front home button, maybe even capacitive and the fingerprint scanner to be the apple logo on the back.
     
  18. MrXiro thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Why do you feel the need to be a jerk? Was merely entertaining a thought. Do me a favor and don't post to me ever again.
     
  19. Mr. Buzzcut macrumors 65816

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    1. NO!
    2. The phone only has one bezel - the frame around the screen.

    Not everyone cradles their phone the same way. It's crazy to design to a single hand position. If you make 30 different phones I guess that's okay but that's not Apple.

    I too poke at my phone while it sits on a table. Sensor on the back would not work for me at all.
     
  20. SMIDG3T Suspended

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    This. If anything it'll be embedded into the screen, Touch ID in a couple of years time. Then they can get rid of the bezels while they're at it too.
     
  21. meistervu macrumors 65816

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    On the contrary, this sort of thinking outside the box is what lead to innovation. If you don't have crazy ideas, then you should not take up product design.
     
  22. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Sounds like the OP wants something like the LG G3. Most reviews seem to be pretty positive about the positioning of the on/off switch and volume rocker.
     
  23. cloudsup macrumors newbie

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    I had the G2 and while i eventually got used to the back buttons, it took a while. They won't be right for everyone so it's good that there are plenty of other high end Android options for people who weren't into the back buttons.

    If Apple wanted to create a phone with back buttons they'd have to offer a regular option as well if they wanted to keep sales up. I don't see it ever happening.
     
  24. iThingsGurl macrumors 6502a

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    Chances are, Apple (and others) will figure out a way to integrate finger print sensor with the display in the near future. Then they can either have a full screen device with a virtual home button (like CarPlay) or they can move the home button to the side replicating Apple Watch's Crown.
     
  25. Judas1 macrumors 6502a

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    Why are people saying that it'll be ugly? The sensor is going to be in the back, hidden, and it'll look like the home button. The only issue is if it will work ergonomically. The answer is yes. Using your thumb to press the home button one handed is awkward. Having your index finger on the back of the phone is natural.
     

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