Chip slot works
. Service code not enforced yet, probably until Apple Pay is "officially on"
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Home Depot to Officially Support Apple Pay Following Retail System Upgrade
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. Service code not enforced yet, probably until Apple Pay is "officially on"It's nothing like if they stopped taking Visa. HS officially supports Visa. They do not officially support NFC payments beyond the card Touch-toPay systems. As in Apple Pay is not officially supported. Is it annoying that they shut it off w/o explanation? Yes. Were they obligated to give one? No.
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It's important to note that Target supports ApplePay in-app. They're expirementing with mobile solutions and they have said that they're not opposed to Apple Pay in the future. They're hedging their bets which in my book is fine.
So they will, and they won't, and now they will.
They were for it, before they were against it, and for it, and...
It might save then from their past sloppiness with credit card data...
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Not the ones at our Home Despots...
They were for it, before they were against it, and for it, and...
It might save then from their past sloppiness with credit card data...
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For those that have EMV chips in their cards, you could always use that until Apple Pay is enabled again. Their readers have the slot for Chip payments
Not the ones at our Home Despots...
Chip slot works
Apparently PIN doesn't get asked at all for those who have a chip and PIN card (Diner's Club, etc.) and debit cards get run as credit when chip's used. It's not completely there yet.
I so hope you're right because the more I use it, especially now with the watch, I just want to use it everywhere. And totally would if I could.
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Man I hope you're right
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Target is a big one for me. So annoying that they support it on their app but not in store. I so hope that changes soon.
What's wrong with just skipping over a sorry that doesn't interest you?
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Isn't TouchID or at least passcode needed for ApplePay to work?
Not only that but they'll be getting a device account number not your real card number.
Same here, but with a Capital One MC. Until today, my debit card wasn't available on Apple Pay so the C1 card was the only thing I could try. I'd use it in the self-service lanes, where everything would look like it was going through, then instead of saying take your bags and leave it would say "See Attendant". I've tried it multiple times since December, and never has it worked, despite the very clear NFC symbol on the checkouts.
So, no, ApplePay doesn't "just work" on all NFC terminals. Apparently that can be messed up, and Home Depot managed to do it for at least the past several months. Maybe the Home Depot around the corner from my house will bet new POS readers and then things will work again, because especially with Home Depot's security lapses I'd feel a lot more comfortable using one-time card numbers.
ApplePay doesn't rely on proximity for security, and thus doesn't worry about trying to guess proximity by measuring the strength of an RF signal. ApplePay relies on cryptographically signed tokens passed between the device and the internet and the terminal. The device will not generate a cryptographically signed token (can not, in fact) without positive fingerprint-based identification. Each token can only be used once.
All in all, ApplePay is about the most secure payment system possible without becoming unusable.
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ApplePay on non-NFC devices allows you to pay through other apps without surrendering your credit card info to each of those apps, increasing both convenience (you don't need to re-type your CC number in every app) and security (what the merchant gets is just a one-use token, not a card that they have to be certified to handle securely).
Id love to see Apple Pay work at RiteAid, as there's one close by, but I'm not holding my breath - last week they replaced their existing credit card readers (the ones with non-functioning NFC readers) with shiny new ones, with bigger brighter screens... and no NFC reader. They still don't have on-screen signing, they hand you a paper receipt to sign. Sigh.
You do realize that the new terminals have NFC under the screen right? They just have to enable it. They have the Verifone MX925. Same for electronic signatures and more. The NFC readers on new terminals are built in, no longer an add on to the top of readers like older ones.
Umm, first of all it's not glossed over by Apple. They say it clearly. Secondly, it's not glossed over by the media. The media typically don't understand, or bother to research completely the technology on which they report. They usually either try to whittle their stories down to a short blurb that ends up oversimplifying the point of the story until it becomes actually inaccurate, or completely miss the nuances of a story, or even put half-truths in a story in the hopes of getting clicks.
Third, you can't use it anywhere with NFC if the merchant doesn't turn it on, or as with some merchants, such as apparently is the case with Home Depot, comes back later and turns it off.
Yeah, we get it. You think that people who take the position of the OP are somehow dogmatically indentured to Apple and Apple Pay, and that it is comical for someone to base their shopping decisions on whether a store accepts it.
But what you always seem to miss with your eye-rolling and patronizing posts is that this is not, in many instances a case of a merchant who hasn't decided yet whether to support NFC payments, or hasn't gone through the upgrading of their systems. As was reported earlier today in a story regarding Home Depot this is often a case of a merchant who supported NFC payments previously quietly turning off said support with no explanation, or in some cases clearly stating that they are turning it off because they are going to be participating in a a "much better for the consumer" payment service, such as MCX.
And this is the point that your ridiculing and ironic posts miss (Or, as I believe deliberately ignore):
This is not about whether Apple Pay has 99% saturation today, tomorrow or next week. This is about whether a system that is more convenient, secure and private for the customer is going to be allowed to grow on its own merits, or if it's going to be subverted by interests that run contrary to the customers' true best interests.
As I stated in an earlier post, It's particularly galling to me that a store/company that was supporting a particular technology up until Apple Pay made its debut would go out of their way to remove said technology. It was fine to take and support NFC payments before, but then Apple brought about the Apple Pay ecosystem, which, while a great self-contained ecosystem in that it's secure, convenient and protects consumer privacy, does not require merchants who were supporting NFC payments before to change anything. All they have to do to leave things in place is NOTHING. And just leaving things lie would allow not only Apple Pay users to benefit, but also users of Google Wallet and the upcoming Samsung Pay.
Now that Apple Pay, and the ensuing press and buzz around it is here they go out of their way to remove the functionality. Why? It doesn't cost them any more. Surely they are not against better security. And they wouldn't publicly proclaim that user convenience is their enemy. There's only one thing that Apple Pay brings to the game that scares the likes these merchants: User privacy. If they allow Apple Pay to work the merchant is giving up the ability to track me. And that is a purely self-serving motivation at the expense of my interest.
Now, as it turns out Home Depot's quiet removal of NFC functionality in their stores was not apparently as sinister as what might have been interpreted by their original actions. But I maintain that the groundswell of complaints and likely many feedback emails to their website are probably what caused Home Depot to come out with a statement clarifying their actions, and divulging that they would, in fact be "officially" supporting Apple Pay later.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a consumer making a stand on principle and voting with their feet. Your implication that someone doing so is a form of fanboy-ism makes you look more dogmatic than you portray them to be.
Probably so they can make a big show of supporting an Apple product and put an Apple logo on every one of their POS systems. Apple carries a lot of brand recognition.
I tried using my PNC debit card with Paywave(?) on it last week at Home Depot, and it didn't go through. Though it had gone through plenty of times in the past. So I don't think it is just affecting Apple Pay, though I do hope that they get on the ball and get the terminals working again. Did not try Google Wallet to see if it works or not.
While I sympathize with your frustration, they didn't advertise that it worked in the first place, so there was no reason to give notice. Had they encouraged you to use it, then turned it off without notice, you would be way more justified in your irritability.
Not always true. The CVS where I live still has the readers on, but it will decline the transaction if you use AP. My phone will go through the motions and even say "done", but then their reader says "Apple Pay not accepted" on the screen, and the cashier will say the card was declined.
Also, HD's big into anything that is opposite Lowe's. Since Lowe's is MCX, of course HD was going to (officially) accept AP. It was only a matter of time...
No one said this only affected AP. HD said they turned off the NFC readers, so NO paywave cards/AP/GoogleWallet/etc are going to work...for now.
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It says "largest retailer".