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Itinj24

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Can anybody advise if you can power on/off a HomeKit enabled Smart TV (Vizio for example) while away from Home or do you have to be on the same WiFi network to control it like an Apple TV or HomePod. Find it annoying you can’t sleep an ATV remotely considering it’s a Home Hub lol. Thanks.
 

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Would things not go pear shaped if the home hub was to goto sleep though? The point of sleep mode is that very little/if anything happens to the device that is put to sleep.....so if you have a bunch of timers or automations set up in HomeKit, then surely the home hub should be awake all the time to cover any requests made in a smart home? unless I have the understanding of a sleep function all wrong???
 

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Would things not go pear shaped if the home hub was to goto sleep though? The point of sleep mode is that very little/if anything happens to the device that is put to sleep.....so if you have a bunch of timers or automations set up in HomeKit, then surely the home hub should be awake all the time to cover any requests made in a smart home? unless I have the understanding of a sleep function all wrong???
The ATV as a Hub is constantly running, even in sleep mode. What sleeps is the screen and all associated apps. All I know is that if all my ATVs are in sleep mode, automations and out of home control still work. What you can’t do in sleep mode is Watch TV, play games, use apps, etc. Just a blank screen on the TV till you wake the ATV. Might be using separate hardware components but I’m not an engineer on the ATV team so I can’t speak intelligently about that. The ATV seems to require the Remote Control app which requires you to be on the same WiFi. Setting up a Shortcut is done through the Remote Control app as well.
 

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Do HomeKit enabled TV's support TV power/off?
From what I understand, they show up as a tile in HomeKit. My assumption is that you can but the key words I was asking about are “while away.” Figured if you can do it remotely then you can definitely do it in general.
 

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From what I understand, they show up as a tile in HomeKit. My assumption is that you can but the key words I was asking about are “while away.” Figured if you can do it remotely then you can definitely do it in general.
If registered it would likely show up in HomeKit as "not responding" if it was turned off. How can HomeKit turn it on if the TVs' HomeKit software is not running? Don't know. This would apply in all locations - remotely and locally.

For my devices which will turn on/off when connected/disconnected to power I use Satechi Dual Smart Outlets. This won't work with devices which, when they are re-powered, will not turn on until their power switch is pressed.
 

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If registered it would likely show up in HomeKit as "not responding" if it was turned off. How can HomeKit turn it on if the TVs' HomeKit software is not running? Don't know. This would apply in all locations - remotely and locally.

For my devices which will turn on/off when connected/disconnected to power I use Satechi Dual Smart Outlets. This won't work with devices which, when they are re-powered, will not turn on until their power switch is pressed.
Good point... however, I posted this in the Apple TV and Home Theater forum as well and there was more than one confirming that this is possible. How it works, I can’t tell ya. Was hoping for a response(s) from people who are running the hardware and they said it works. Maybe it doesn’t power off completely but to a very low power state, like a sleep mode. As long as it’s plugged in, and the power circuit is closed, it’s still getting power. I really don’t know, that’s why I’m asking the question.
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I posted in both forums since this question applies to both and some forums don’t get the same traffic volume as others.
 

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I wouldn't rely on a generic answer since TV firmware is different for each manufacturer and varies between models from the same manufacturer. If you are purchasing using this criteria I would confirm that it works and is supported.

In my experience HomeKit performance/reliability varies widely even among devices of the same class (smart plugs, sensors, ....).
 
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I wouldn't rely on a generic answer since TV firmware is different for each manufacturer and varies between models from the same manufacturer. If you are purchasing using this criteria I would confirm that it works and is supported.

In my experience HomeKit performance/reliability varies widely even among devices of the same class (smart plugs, sensors, ....).
The only way to truly confirm that it works to my needs is to buy it and hook it up. The first step to that however, before going through the trouble, is to ask those with experience. This is the first step 😀
I saw the post you posted in the other thread. Definitely appreciate your help asking that question which is something I didn’t think of. I mentioned Vizio as an example only and assumed they all work the same with basic functions in HomeKit or someone would post to the contrary. You do make a strong point though about different manufactured accessories behaving differently.
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I wouldn't rely on a generic answer since TV firmware is different for each manufacturer and varies between models from the same manufacturer. If you are purchasing using this criteria I would confirm that it works and is supported.

In my experience HomeKit performance/reliability varies widely even among devices of the same class (smart plugs, sensors, ....).
Well you definitely got me thinking and decided to just go on the Vizio website. My main concern was if this can be done remotely, when out of the House’s WiFi range. I assumed it can be done locally in WiFi range. I came across this:

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I can tell you 100% yes you can turn the tv on and off while away from home. I’m using a HomePod as the HomeKit hub, and have an LG C9. The tv enters the same shut down state as if used by a remote. Don’t over think it, it works as you would hope it does.
 
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