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I originally had one for order and then canceled it. for my Amazon echo, its on my account but anyone can use it when i am not home, add things to a shopping list etc. When I heard homepod lost most of its features when the main account person wasnt there is when I canceled. I travel for work and my family should be able to have full capabilities when I am not there. or at the very least give me the choice to allow them to have it...

until that happens, no thanks.
Anybody can use the HomePod even if you’re not there
 
Anybody can use the HomePod even if you’re not there

I thought that if the person who set up the home pod is not there that some of the features won't work? for example, I have an apple music subscription and I want that to work when I am not home. not to mention adding things to lists etc... does all of that work when the one who configured the home pod is not there?

guess an easy way to test would be that the person who configured it, put their phone into airplane mode and see what works and what doesn't.
 
A bunch of pre-release demo reviewers touted over and over recently because they were generally-to-very favorable on the product in their demo and "first look" (not-a-review) articles, are about to be bashed and marginalized for daring to now write down tangible cons in their official reviews.

So very right last week, yet likely to become so very wrong this week. What changed?
To be fair, the reviews I've read so far all praise the sound quality and most of the criticism is aimed at the limitations due to Siri and the walled garden, which realistically has been expected since the HomePod was announced.

If you are camped entirely in Apple's ecosystem it sounds like it could be a great addition to your home, if you use products and services from other companies then you will probably be better served going elsewhere.
 
There are some caveats to take into consideration, but "pointless" is an exaggeration. It's not hard to share playlists between Apple Music users and it's also not hard to "dislike" unwanted recommendations that show up in your account as a result of family member use of the HomePod.

I was referring the the "smart" capabilities, like adding Reminders or sending messages. I saw in one review that you can set the Homepod up so that songs it play doesn't influence recommendations etc. I don't care about people being able to access their Playlist. I just want people to be able to tell it to read a message and Siri be smart enough to read one from their phone instead of mine.
 
Nutshell highlights from these reviews seem to be:
  • good-to-great(-to-best) sounding "smart" speaker, but lacking-to-(near) last on the "smarts" side.
  • ideal for the single, living-alone buyer deeply entrenched (and happy almost entirely) within the Apple ecosystem.
  • much of that (hundreds of posts about) home theater/stereo (as one speaker)/surround sound spin was generally misplaced or outright wishful thinking/fan spin. It's generally NOT that kind of speaker, nor even seems to be aspiring to become that kind of speaker.
Conclusions seem to generally support "best sounding smart speaker" but question if it's worth the retail price due to the various shortcomings they identify and a "good enough" (sound) consideration from other, "smarter" & more flexible speakers that cost about the same or a little-to-a-lot less. The shortcomings seems to generally revolve around the narrowness of a fit due to limiting choices such as ecosystem lock-in (& inflexibility), not significantly advancing Siri (to at least catch up with other smart speakers), key features limited to a primary user, and key features not already in the box (but some of them coming with a future software update), etc.

Basically, they seem to group chorus: standout speaker (sound) that is not so smart, burdened by the heavy Apple lock-in. Overall, the reviews seem favorable but one will have to judge for themselves if the collective pros (and finally) cons justify the price.
 
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How well do they do that though? That's probably the reason Apple hasn't implemented it yet.

Well Alexa for us does it very well. She understands my wife, my self and even our 6 year old without issues. I love my Apple products but but this is the one product I’m passing on and I actually picked up a pair of Sonos One speakers and a pair of Sonos Play 1’s they do so much more than the HomePod.
I don’t see myself needing every speaker in the house listening to everything I say. The Sonos have worked out wonderfully and sound great as well.
 
To be fair, the reviews I've read so far all praise the sound quality and most of the criticism is aimed at the limitations due to Siri and the walled garden, which realistically has been expected since the HomePod was announced.

If you are camped entirely in Apple's ecosystem it sounds like it could be a great addition to your home, if you use products and services from other companies then you will probably be better served going elsewhere.

I agree. Hopefully, that post doesn't come off much different. I'm simply noting that what was generally pretty heavy praise from some of these same players post demo, now comes with their cons comments in their official review. "We" were referencing & quoting their praise but I bet "we" generally turn on them (or perhaps just their crits) now that they are writing down tangible cons too.
 
A bunch of pre-release demo reviewers touted over and over recently because they were generally-to-very favorable on the product in their demo and "first look" (not-a-review) articles, are about to be bashed and marginalized for daring to now write down tangible cons in their official reviews.

So very right last week, yet likely to become so very wrong this week. What changed?
Though, almost to a review, they praised the sound quality. And this is after using the HP in their own environments. I suppose Apple could have given them units with different speakers inside, but why, really?

The reviews just confirm what Apple has advertised, and what the demos demoed: That the HomePod produces excellent sound. They also confirm that Siri isn't better on the HomePod than it is on other Apple devices (but it isn't worse, so if you are satisfied with Siri that's not a negative). Finally, they point out that the HP only supports Apple Music as a built-in service, which is how Apple designed it. Nevada is not Vermont, so if you want Vermont, you probably won't like Nevada. But if you're looking for Nevada, there's no better one than Nevada. Pointing out that it isn't Vermont is only a negative to those who want it to be Vermont. I don't use Spotify, so I don't care if HomePod supports it.
 
To be fair, the reviews I've read so far all praise the sound quality and most of the criticism is aimed at the limitations due to Siri and the walled garden, which realistically has been expected since the HomePod was announced.

If you are camped entirely in Apple's ecosystem it sounds like it could be a great addition to your home, if you use products and services from other companies then you will probably be better served going elsewhere.
I’m scratching my head why this would be surprising to anyone. Apple makes products that play nicely with other Apple products. iTunes on Windows was because most people owned a Windows PC and iTunes on the desktop was the only way to sync music to an iPod or buy music from the iTunes store. Seems to me the only reason Apple Music exists for Android is because Beats Music was already there. One can disagree with Apple’s thinking and wish Apple was more cross platform but it shouldn’t surprise anyone that they’re not.
 
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Needs connectivity options.. how do you play your TV/Xbox/Computer sounds through it?

Seems of very limited use/purpose. Siri isn't a system seller, not sure who this is targeting. A proper "HomePod" would also have a 16:9 iPad screen to watch TV programs.

Also, non-mobile home devices should always be wired to network, instead of wireless..

HomePod Pro coming in 2021. $799.
 
Aside from having the Apple Brand it appears to be no different to all the other devices in this already flooded market.

Apple are very late to the show releasing the HomePod but will no doubt succeed as it will appeal to the brainwashed consumers that are convinced that anything with the Apple Logo equals high quality.

The Apple Logo is not the automatic stamp of high quality it once was but many of the faithful have not woken up to that fact.
 
"Apple Store pickup is now unavailable for the HomePod in all three countries" Must mean that's a total flop! /s

For all you naysayers and all the bad reviews out there. Remember it's main function is to be a speaker! Who cares if it is limited in functionality! Do you have an Apple Music account? Great! The music will sound amazing!

Not subscribed to the Apple Ecosystem? This product is not for you, fair and square, move on and purchase something else that fits your needs but for many (as apparent by the sellouts!) this thing is going to be incredibly popular.
 
Though, almost to a review, they praised the sound quality. And this is after using the HP in their own environments. I suppose Apple could have given them units with different speakers inside, but why, really?

The reviews just confirm what Apple has advertised, and what the demos demoed: That the HomePod produces excellent sound. They also confirm that Siri isn't better on the HomePod than it is on other Apple devices (but it isn't worse, so if you are satisfied with Siri that's not a negative). Finally, they point out that the HP only supports Apple Music as a built-in service, which is how Apple designed it. Nevada is not Vermont, so if you want Vermont, you probably won't like Nevada. But if you're looking for Nevada, there's no better one than Nevada. Pointing out that it isn't Vermont is only a negative to those who want it to be Vermont. I don't use Spotify, so I don't care if HomePod supports it.
I don’t get writing a review based on what you wanted something to be vs what it was designed to be. Apple pitched the HomePod as high quality speaker first, minimal smart assistant second and cross platform never. So yeah if you have an Android phone and Spotify account HomePod isn’t for you. Apple never said it would be. if you’re reviewing HomePod based on things Apple never promised you’re doing it wrong.
 
Apple makes this. It's called the iPad Pro. You can use any number of bluetooth or Airplay speakers -- including the HomePod -- if you want better sound from it.

The HomePod isn't intended as an out-of-the-home portable product. Why would one need a screen? I have a 26", 32", 42" TV and a 100" projector screen. Most people have at least one medium to large screen. Why would they want to watch at home on an iPad screen?

I see a few deficiencies with the HomePod, but not having a screen isn't one of them. Hopefully that never happens. That would truly be a Jump The Shark moment.

Yes and no. This product is clearly audio focused. But a number of people would welcome a home assistant with a screen similar to amazons.

Having said that I agree that a stand alone iPad can serve many of those same functions.
 
Would Apple's announcement that they would give up these Homepods for half price to its own employees have a part in the supply situation?
 
We are basically purchasing a good small speaker to stream Apple Music.....and maybe ask Siri to set an alarm. That's it
 
I don’t get writing a review based on what you wanted something to be vs what it was designed to be. Apple pitched the HomePod as high quality speaker first, minimal smart assistant second and cross platform never. So yeah if you have an Android phone and Spotify account HomePod isn’t for you. Apple never said it would be. if you’re reviewing HomePod based on things Apple never promised you’re doing it wrong.
I agree with you about Apple never promising x and y. But a review is for potential buyers, not for Apple, and potential buyers are likely to be looking at HomePod vs Amazon Echo vs Sonos vs Google Home. Pointing out where Apple is weak compared to other smart speakers is not doing it wrong. Nor is pointing out where Apple is strong doing it wrong, even if it's something the competition isn't currently striving for.
 
Can you really compare Alexa and Google to this? AFAIK, HomePod is a voice-activated speaker, interacting with your home devices. Alexa and Google are data collection devices, profiling the user to sell product and tailor content.
 
Still available for delivery on Friday. Store p/u on Friday still available at BestBuy -- at least the stores near me. Store p/u cut off is likely due to logistics, not availability.


No, you're confusing two different distribution chains--Best Buy and Apple Stores. You can't pick up at any Apple stores because their initial supply is sold out.
 
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