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Because I would imagine the Mini is more popular with consumers and investing the R&D into a more expensive variant right now would be a waste of time.

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Apple needs to try harder to solve the living room for us.
But they are, aren't they? They have given us the "many screens" model, redefining what the living room is and where we can access entertaining content.

I am not representative of the majority, but likely represent the future: I spent the last ten years without a television. It's not that my wife and I didn't watch anything, although we likely consumed far less than most - we watched on our computers, or curled up together on our iPad. We were in school and in training, often moving around, and simply didn't have the funds, time, nor apartment space for a television. We bought our first television just a few months ago, about a year after buying a house. It is a really nice television that supports AppleTV+ directly (not that I care for that, although we do have the free subscription just like everyone else) and also integrates with HomeKit... and it is easily the least-used screen in our house. We use it to watch things now in place of watching on the other screens, and sure, it's a nicer experience... but I can't say it'd be impossibly awful to go back to the way we were before.

Personally, I still feel burned by Apple discontinuing their line of routers. That happened a few years ago at this point. I bring it up because Apple did not discontinue their router lineup because other routers were playing perfectly with their systems, or because other routers had become as easy to set up as the AirPort lineup. I suspect they figured the other routers were good enough, and it just wasn't worth the cost anymore. Similarly, Apple got out of making their own printers much, much farther back in time. Hardware is expensive, and I think they're not quite as controlling or obsessive about the user experience as they once used to be. Never say never and all that, but I just can't imagine them striking out to make their own television.

Similarly, the HomePod's end came as a surprise to me, but it sort of makes sense. The frequent sales made it clear that they weren't moving much volume at their desired price, and the emphasis on headphones makes it clear that more people today value that portability. The AirPods Max cost far more than the standard HomePod, and most of the colors are still backlogged on orders, a full three months after they were released. People today seem to want to be mobile, private, or both.
 
If the HomePod was successful Apple would still be selling it. Clearly they consider it a failure. Overpriced at $350. I paid 199 and 179 for mine. Brand new from BB.

I have 2 regular HP and 2 minis. Hope they continue to work for a few more years.
 
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Well, you keep repeating this production volume and revenue figure, with the assertion that for Apple, the HomePod was a great business success.

However, Apple don't typically discontinue successful products unless they have a new one ready to roll. This is particularly true in highly competitive markets, where they know how important sales inertia is. Stop production while a new product arrives, and customers will buy competitor products instead because they are there and available. Customers and markets simply do not wait, and of all companies, Apple know this really well.

The only conclusion you really can draw is that the HomePod was not profitable. And honestly it is not hard to see why this reality may be the more accurate one. Too expensive, FAR too expensive in fact for the much narrower niche of features and capabilities. It is also not hard to guess why now. And that's because they will have calculated at the outset how many needed to be sold to break even on the development and manufacturing costs, and that they stopped production at that point, because there was no profit to be had from it, and absent any plans to open the ecosystem to make it more functional, no way to make it profitable.

So they focused on a cheaper model that would sell and at least maintain the subscriptions for Apple Music, possibly build on that, and waited until the HomePod supply chain was almost empty, then announced it was being discontinued. It's classic Apple supply-chain management. Not a surprise since Tim Cook was the class-leader in supply chain management while Jobs was still at the helm. He was a master also at ramping up product volume in the supply chain to ensure manufacturing and warehousing were clear of old product while there was still a crest of demand.

I admire the enthusiasm of individuals for the product, but I would bet on Apple's business sense rather more than on enthusiastic users. And in this case I would say that all the signs are that there were simply far-too-few enthusiastic users who wanted to buy one enough to keep the product in production. And I believe that decision was taken ages ago.

I think it's a great shame. It's a great product, though with some dire shortcomings. Price for one, but Apple never have concerned themselves with being a niche at the top of a market segment, because they have always sold product even at premium prices. But due to the narrowness of the ecosystem HomePod supported and the way the competition has evolved, I think they knew pretty early on that the HomePod was likely not going to work out. I believe they wanted to establish themselves as a serious contender in the great-sounding-speaker market, but the HomePod did that. It just didn't make money.
He preaches about the HomePod. It’s called damage control. Bolt is preached the virtues of the HP since the beginning. and now it’s discontinued. Hurts
 
He preaches about the HomePod. It’s called damage control. Bolt is preached the virtues of the HP since the beginning. and now it’s discontinued. Hurts

It’s being updated. I own 5. I don’t need any more.
 
I know right. He must be up at night trembling. Lol.
The report confirms many Homepod critics' concern - no unifying strategy for the product.
It was as if Apple went out and hired some sound engineers to build the ultimate smart speaker just to show they could do it and pat themselves on the back. That really backfired.
 
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The report confirms many Homepod critics' concern - no unifying strategy for the product.
It was as if Apple went out and hired some sound engineers to build the ultimate smart speaker just to show they could do it and pat themselves on the back. That really backfired.

With sales in the neighborhood of 15M units and revenue of $4.5 billion dollars? LOL, that is a massive success by any measure. That’s bigger than there entire Sonos corporation. “Backfire” LOL.
 
Just another HomePod hitpiece, just another touch of clickbait for the gullible. More garbage from the clueless.
Hahah ok, now you’re obviously just trolling.

Mark Gurman is one of the most respected Apple leakers in the business, FYI, but I guess to you it’s clickbait and you know better. You’re too funny.
 
With sales in the neighborhood of 15M units and revenue of $4.5 billion dollars? LOL, that is a massive success by any measure. That’s bigger than there entire Sonos corporation. “Backfire” LOL.
Yet it’s now been discontinued and experienced two reductions in price prior to that to encourage what was quoted as ‘lacklustre sales’. The fact of the matter is the HomePod is very distantly in third place in the market it competes in. The only way Apple can compete is to attack this now saturated market with a device priced similarly to its competitors and this is now what they are doing. Quoting spurious figures about profits and a measly 15 million units doesn’t escape the fact the original HomePod underperformed by a significant margin. It wasn’t a ‘massive success’ by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Mark Gurman is one of the most respected Apple leakers in the business, FYI, but I guess to you it’s clickbait and you know better. You’re too funny.

Who? Never heard of him. Just read about him. “Leaker”? He’s a kid who plays guessing games, the very type of pretend “reporting” we need a lot less of.

Stop being so gullible. Start there.
 
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Yet it’s now been discontinued and experienced two reductions in price prior to that to encourage what was quoted as ‘lacklustre sales’. The fact of the matter is the HomePod is very distantly in third place in the market it competes in. The only way Apple can compete is to attack this now saturated market with a device priced similarly to its competitors and this is now what they are doing. Quoting spurious figures about profits and a measly 15 million units doesn’t escape the fact the original HomePod underperformed by a significant margin. It wasn’t a ‘massive success’ by any stretch of the imagination.

HomePod was built to sell to audiophiles at $350 and sells very well to audiophiles at $250. It was never meant to be a cheap microphone like Alexa; it was meant to be a self-contained stereo system for Apple Music, the largest streaming music platform in the United States that surpassed Spotify during HomePod’s run.

Apple discovered a hit product but it’s not constructed properly so they are taking a pause to redesign it to make their necessary margins.

Not rocket science. Just smart business.
 
Who? Never heard of him. Just read about him. “Leaker”? He’s a kid who plays guessing games, the very type of pretend “reporting” we need a lot less of.

Stop being so gullible. Start there.
You’re absolutely right. His track record of being accurate on Apple product releases, events and everything else Apple is really, just a guess... at 89.1% accuracy. I’d love to hire him as my fortune teller at that correct “guess” rate. Not too shabby for a kid employed by Bloomberg News. I guess a million people can be wrong. Maybe you know better than everyone else as an owner of five HomePods lol. You’re in denial.

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HomePod was built to sell to audiophiles at $350 and sells very well to audiophiles at $250. It was never meant to be a cheap microphone like Alexa; it was meant to be a self-contained stereo system for Apple Music, the largest streaming music platform in the United States that surpassed Spotify during HomePod’s run.

Apple discovered a hit product but it’s not constructed properly so they are taking a pause to redesign it to make their necessary margins.

Not rocket science. Just smart business.

Where is your proof that it was ‘built to sell to audiophiles’?? It was marketed as a HomeKit compatible smart assistant at the initial keynote and there was no indication from anything I have seen that it was purely aimed at audiophiles.

Please provide a source for this claim.
 
Where is your proof that it was ‘built to sell to audiophiles’?? It was marketed as a HomeKit compatible smart assistant at the initial keynote and there was no indication from anything I have seen that it was purely aimed at audiophiles.

Please provide a source for this claim.


Didn't see this, then?
 
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HomePod was built to sell to audiophiles at $350 and sells very well to audiophiles at $250. It was never meant to be a cheap microphone like Alexa; it was meant to be a self-contained stereo system for Apple Music, the largest streaming music platform in the United States that surpassed Spotify during HomePod’s run.

Apple discovered a hit product but it’s not constructed properly so they are taking a pause to redesign it to make their necessary margins.

Not rocket science. Just smart business.
I would imagine most people who truly believe that they are an 'audiophile' wouldn't even contemplate buying a speaker made by Apple. Don't get me wrong, it sounds great, but from my experience most audiophiles tend to be quite snobby about what they use no matter how good it sounds to the average Joe.
 
Yeah, it just doesn’t answer my question. How is that press release suggesting the product is aimed at the niche audiophile market?

To turn your question on its head and consider whether some bias is getting in the way of your understanding - what's your evidence that the "audiophile market" - whatever that is - is niche?

The fact that the only mention of siri in the first 3 paragraphs is about how Siri is the perfect "musicologist" shows that it is music-first, not a Homekit compatible smart assistant-first.
 
To turn your question on its head and consider whether some bias is getting in the way of your understanding - what's your evidence that the "audiophile market" - whatever that is - is niche?

The fact that the only mention of siri in the first 3 paragraphs is about how Siri is the perfect "musicologist" shows that it is music-first, not a Homekit compatible smart assistant-first.
There’s a lot of articles suggesting it is niche with the perception it is a middle aged male dominated niche where the demand for high cost, high end audio products is at the small end of the consumer audio market. It’s always been a niche market as far as I am aware and the HomePod is a rather cheap product compared to the other streaming speakers currently in the top 10. I would not say the HomePod is primarily aimed at perhaps the smallest audio consumer market.

From the 4 key marketing points on the HomePod page, ‘Home’ and Home Accessories’ occupy 50% of its focus. I’d say it’s massively marketed towards being a smart assistant as well as a speaker.

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There’s a lot of articles suggesting it is niche with the perception it is a middle aged male dominated niche where the demand for high cost, high end audio products is at the small end of the consumer audio market. It’s always been a niche market as far as I am aware and the HomePod is a rather cheap product compared to the other streaming speakers currently in the top 10. I would not say the HomePod is primarily aimed at perhaps the smallest audio consumer market.

From the 4 key marketing points on the HomePod page, ‘Home’ and Home Accessories’ occupy 50% of its focus. I’d say it’s massively marketed towards being a smart assistant as well as a speaker.

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You've changed your tense. What they are marketed as now is a different argument.

The homepod page did not look like this at the time the original homepod was released. This is a banner page introduced shortly before homepod was discontinued. The actual homepod page has none of these links on it.
 
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You've changed your tense. What they are marketed as now is a different argument.

The homepod page did not look like this at the time the original homepod was released. This is a banner page introduced shortly before homepod was discontinued. The actual homepod page has none of these links on it.

I’ve always maintained the HomePod is aimed at being high quality speaker and smart assistant. The keynote when it was released aimed most of its functionality for HomeKit and home accessories. The fact it only allowed Apple Music was its other function and has proven an unsuccessful one and faced a significant backlash for not allowing third party services. Audiophile reviews criticised it as being ‘too Apple-centric’. The banners linked here are from the HomePod page, not the HomePod Mini too. Whether or not they’ve changed their focus is by the by as we know they have due to its discontinuation and switch to the HomePod Mini.
 
I’ve always maintained the HomePod is aimed at being high quality speaker and smart assistant. The keynote when it was released aimed most of its functionality for HomeKit and home accessories. The fact it only allowed Apple Music was its other function and has proven an unsuccessful one and faced a significant backlash for not allowing third party services. Audiophile reviews criticised it as being ‘too Apple-centric’. The banners linked here are from the HomePod page, not the HomePod Mini too. Whether or not they’ve changed their focus is by the by as we know they have due to its discontinuation and switch to the HomePod Mini.

the HomePod (2018) page does not have these pictures. So you are incorrect on that point. They are from a recently-created landing page for both homepods which assumed the www.apple.com/homepod url.
 
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